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Trying to find the tuning of my kemenches+piano sonata

🔗Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...>

11/7/2010 3:45:20 PM

I am trying to figure out what tuning I had used years back when recording my Sonata for two kemenches and a piano using SW1000XG. The mp3 file is here:

http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/BABAKIZ.mp3

Does anyone have a quick way to show me how to find the 12-tET offsets in this piece? The information is needed for me to successfully mixdown a recoding featuring REAL kemenche sounds.

Cordially,
Oz.

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🔗Carl Lumma <carl@...>

11/7/2010 5:30:44 PM

Awesome piece, I hadn't heard it before. Love the tuplets.
It looks like from 4:10 - 4:30 region there's a kemenche
solo. It doesn't seem to have all 12 pitches but you might
find other brief solo sections throughout. These can be
analyzed with the excellent free tool Tartini

http://miracle.otago.ac.nz/tartini/

to give you at least a rough idea of the offsets (and maybe
the rest of the tuning will come back to you).

Failing that, Melodyne Editor will give you more accuracy
and may even be able to tease apart some of the polyphonic
sections. It's US$350. They have a supposedly unrestricted
free demo

http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=demo_editor

which shuts off after 30 days. If you haven't yet tried it,
now may be a good time.

-Carl

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...> wrote:
>
> I am trying to figure out what tuning I had used years back when
> recording my Sonata for two kemenches and a piano using SW1000XG.
> The mp3 file is here:
>
> http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/BABAKIZ.mp3
>
> Does anyone have a quick way to show me how to find the 12-tET
> offsets in this piece? The information is needed for me to
> successfully mixdown a recoding featuring REAL kemenche sounds.
>
> Cordially,
> Oz.
>

🔗Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...>

11/8/2010 3:45:09 AM

Enjoyable piece Oz - surprisingly western in spirit.

Chris

On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...>wrote:

>
>
> I am trying to figure out what tuning I had used years back when
> recording my Sonata for two kemenches and a piano using SW1000XG. The
> mp3 file is here:
>
> http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/BABAKIZ.mp3
>
> Does anyone have a quick way to show me how to find the 12-tET offsets
> in this piece? The information is needed for me to successfully mixdown
> a recoding featuring REAL kemenche sounds.
>
> Cordially,
> Oz.
>
> --
>
> ✩ ✩ ✩
> www.ozanyarman.com
>
>

🔗Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...>

11/8/2010 4:19:11 AM

Thanks! It should sound better with actual kemenche sounds in a new mix.

Oz.

--

✩ ✩ ✩
www.ozanyarman.com

Chris Vaisvil wrote:
>
>
> Enjoyable piece Oz - surprisingly western in spirit.
>
> Chris
>
> On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...
> <mailto:ozanyarman@...>> wrote:
>
> I am trying to figure out what tuning I had used years back when
> recording my Sonata for two kemenches and a piano using SW1000XG. The
> mp3 file is here:
>
> http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/BABAKIZ.mp3
>
> Does anyone have a quick way to show me how to find the 12-tET offsets
> in this piece? The information is needed for me to successfully mixdown
> a recoding featuring REAL kemenche sounds.
>
> Cordially,
> Oz.
>
> --
>
> ✩ ✩ ✩
> www.ozanyarman.com <http://www.ozanyarman.com>
>
>

🔗Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...>

11/8/2010 3:20:39 PM

Thank you Carl, also for the positive comment! (The solo part is a canon actually.) I shall try your suggestions.

Oz.

--

✩ ✩ ✩
www.ozanyarman.com

Carl Lumma wrote:
> Awesome piece, I hadn't heard it before. Love the tuplets.
> It looks like from 4:10 - 4:30 region there's a kemenche
> solo. It doesn't seem to have all 12 pitches but you might
> find other brief solo sections throughout. These can be
> analyzed with the excellent free tool Tartini
>
> http://miracle.otago.ac.nz/tartini/
>
> to give you at least a rough idea of the offsets (and maybe
> the rest of the tuning will come back to you).
>
> Failing that, Melodyne Editor will give you more accuracy
> and may even be able to tease apart some of the polyphonic
> sections. It's US$350. They have a supposedly unrestricted
> free demo
>
> http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=demo_editor
>
> which shuts off after 30 days. If you haven't yet tried it,
> now may be a good time.
>
> -Carl
>
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Ozan Yarman<ozanyarman@...> wrote:
>> I am trying to figure out what tuning I had used years back when
>> recording my Sonata for two kemenches and a piano using SW1000XG.
>> The mp3 file is here:
>>
>> http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/BABAKIZ.mp3
>>
>> Does anyone have a quick way to show me how to find the 12-tET
>> offsets in this piece? The information is needed for me to
>> successfully mixdown a recoding featuring REAL kemenche sounds.
>>
>> Cordially,
>> Oz.
>>
>