Re: [tuning] Re: Guitar and Other Instrument Tunings

"David J. Finnamore" wrote:
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> From: "David J. Finnamore" <dfin@freewwweb.com>
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> LiamRedmond wrote:
>
> > I have a web site for fretted instrument resources [snip] to experiment with other
> > tunings easily and quickly. If your interested then please visit the
> > site at http://pages.eidosnet.co.uk/liamredmond/guitar/index.html if
> > the tuning or instrument you require is no listed then forms are
> > provided to add new ones. I was surprised that not one of my 1000 or
> > so visitors has yet requested any different tunings so I thought I'de
> > post a note here for people who are 'into' alternate tunings.
>
> Ahem. You want to tell him, or shall I?

You clue him in man.

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Hey,

One of you ought to tell me !

If your going to say 'it doesn't work under Netscape' check your
security setting or get Internet Explorer.

You will need Java1.1, Javascript1.2 and a frames capable browser,
it works fine for me under Netscape 4.07, Internet explorer 5 (with
the latest JVM patch) running on Win'98.

Chers,

--- In tuning@onelist.com, David Beardsley <xouoxno@v...> wrote:
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> "David J. Finnamore" wrote:
> >
> > From: "David J. Finnamore" <dfin@freewwweb.com>
> >
> > LiamRedmond wrote:
> >
> > > I have a web site for fretted instrument resources [snip] to
experiment with other
> > > tunings easily and quickly. If your interested then please
visit the
> > > site at http://pages.eidosnet.co.uk/liamredm
ond/guitar/index.html if
> > > the tuning or instrument you require is no listed then forms are
> > > provided to add new ones. I was surprised that not one of my
1000 or
> > > so visitors has yet requested any different tunings so I
thought I'de
> > > post a note here for people who are 'into' alternate tunings.
> >
> > Ahem. You want to tell him, or shall I?
>
> You clue him in man.
>
>
>
> --
> * D a v i d B e a r d s l e y
> * xouoxno@virtulink.com
> *
> * 49/32 R a d i o "all microtonal, all the time"
> * M E L A v i r t u a l d r e a m house monitor
> *
> * http://www.virtulink.com/immp/lookhere.htm

: LiamRedmond@rocketmail.com wrote,

> Hey,
>
> One of you ought to tell me !

What D. B. and D. F. mean is just that there is some unfortunate
confusion being caused by the term "alternate tuning." For guitarist
this is a pretty standard phrase for any open string tuning other than
E A D G B E... and yet in the context of this list, this is also
generally meant to say something like, "any intonation systems other
than the standard twelve tone equal temperament."

Hope that helps.

Dan Stearns

"D.Stearns" wrote:
>
> From: "D.Stearns" <STEARNS@CAPECOD.NET>
>
> : LiamRedmond@rocketmail.com wrote,
>
> > Hey,
> >
> > One of you ought to tell me !
>
> What D. B. and D. F. mean is just that there is some unfortunate
> confusion being caused by the term "alternate tuning." For guitarist
> this is a pretty standard phrase for any open string tuning other than
> E A D G B E... and yet in the context of this list, this is also
> generally meant to say something like, "any intonation systems other
> than the standard twelve tone equal temperament."

Yes - we're microtonalists. One of my guitars
has 65 frets, 62 tones to the octave. http://microtones.com

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* 49/32 R a d i o "all microtonal, all the time"
* M E L A v i r t u a l d r e a m house monitor
*
* http://www.virtulink.com/immp/lookhere.htm

Recently, my thoughts have run to writing a guitar piece. The frustration of
writing for the traditional instrument is obvious to the list, but I felt
there must be a strategy for such a piece. Thanks to the
Werckmeister/Kirnberger model of different passions being expressed in
different keys, I came up with an idea that I plan to pursue.

By tuning the open strings of a 6-string guitar into just relationships there
is a kaleidoscopic treasure trove of unusual harmonic relationships readily
available.

Melodically it is important not to play consecutively on the same string for
a distinctive 12TET is only apparent at this time. (Yes, I've already tried
this with guitarists and they were all wowed.)

Of course, there are a number of different just tuning set ups, some of which
mirror traditional string tuning, others that deviate more notably. Making a
tuning change for a string on the fly, in real time, is surprising easy. One
could modulate 4 times, or more in a single piece.

And, once a number of particular just stringings are devised, a host of
numbers could follow indicating specific cents values for chords with
traditional names in particular keys. A good start for mirroring tradition
and its incumbent chord progressions might be:

D (lowered from E), A (3/2 from D), D, F# (114 cents flat from traditional
G),
B (+4 or -131), E quarterflat (ah, it's wide open).

Johnny Reinhard
afmmjr@aol.com