tuning-research

Hi all,

This is my last night in the States for 3 weeks - tomorrow morning I
go to Haiti. If I have time, I'd like to talk about this new train of
thought as much as possible and continue to research it - this may, of
course, not be the case. I had a lot more to say in my other message,
particularly with the neurological element, but cut it off because
this it ended up being pretty long anyway.

However, it doesn't seem as though everyone on the list wants a
discussion like this to be here, given that it clearly lends itself to
a lot of rapid-fire discourse. And assuming I would rather feel like
I'm not contributing to the virtual nociception of anyone's inbox
while I continue to share ideas and get much-needed peer feedback (and
give feedback to the ideas of others).

In the last week, I watched my somewhat flimsy theory of dyadic HE
"de-priming" develop into a much less flimsy theory that is starting
to become neurological - mostly because I had people on this list to
be critical and handle my rapid-fire output. And if I couldn't make
that rapid-fire output and couldn't get rapid-fire input, and was
limited to 5 posts a day (I hope 6 people don't respond to any of my
messages!), then I'd still be thinking it had to do with HE depriming,
research would be slowed (even if this particular train of thought
ends up leading nowhere).

I could continue to discuss this offlist with Carl and folks, but I'd
rather just work on this publicly, because if it ends up leading to
anything useful there should be archives for people to go through, as
I have the benefit of going through with the harmonic entropy list. So
I would like to set up a sister list, something like tuning-research,
which is dedicated to stuff like this, and where it should be known in
advance that it might be a high volume list. Or we can take it to
harmonic_entropy or tuning-math or something if people want, but
perhaps those lists should just be better off as they are. That way
things are just more in order.

I really don't want to feel like there is resentment against me, and
also really wish there was a place where I could work on this sort of
thing without bothering people. And nobody should have to be filtering
someone's posts out (and frankly, Ozan's actions in that regard really
piss me off). So this seems like the best option for everyone to be
happy.

Any thoughts? I might just do it and be the only person posting for a
while, just at least to keep a public record of my train of thought,
whether I get feedback or not.

This is, of course, assuming I have a second to do anything while I'm
in Haiti...

-Mike

MikeB>"Any thoughts? I might just do it and be the only person posting for a
while, just at least to keep a public record of my train of thought, whether I
get feedback or not."

It seems to a HUGE degree what makes this list work is that there are a lot of
people here and, even if you get a whole lot of whining, there are usually a few
people who criticize you constructively and allow theories to progress. I, for
one, certainly think you are getting somewhere and that it takes strong Ethics
as it often goes against a lot of the theory you learned before IE it forced you
to make the "I knew a lot, but now I realize I no little" response for the sake
of a more inclusive theory.

It is interesting you posted the topic as "tuning-research"...because I think
that would be an IDEAL name for a new list where people who join agree to do a
whole lot of debating for the sake of new theories.
If you started such a list I would gladly join and encourage anyone who
doesn't mind low winding debates to join as well . :-)

________________________________
From: Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@...>
To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, September 22, 2010 3:52:57 AM
Subject: [tuning] tuning-research

Hi all,

This is my last night in the States for 3 weeks - tomorrow morning I
go to Haiti. If I have time, I'd like to talk about this new train of
thought as much as possible and continue to research it - this may, of
course, not be the case. I had a lot more to say in my other message,
particularly with the neurological element, but cut it off because
this it ended up being pretty long anyway.

However, it doesn't seem as though everyone on the list wants a
discussion like this to be here, given that it clearly lends itself to
a lot of rapid-fire discourse. And assuming I would rather feel like
I'm not contributing to the virtual nociception of anyone's inbox
while I continue to share ideas and get much-needed peer feedback (and
give feedback to the ideas of others).

In the last week, I watched my somewhat flimsy theory of dyadic HE
"de-priming" develop into a much less flimsy theory that is starting
to become neurological - mostly because I had people on this list to
be critical and handle my rapid-fire output. And if I couldn't make
that rapid-fire output and couldn't get rapid-fire input, and was
limited to 5 posts a day (I hope 6 people don't respond to any of my
messages!), then I'd still be thinking it had to do with HE depriming,
research would be slowed (even if this particular train of thought
ends up leading nowhere).

I could continue to discuss this offlist with Carl and folks, but I'd
rather just work on this publicly, because if it ends up leading to
anything useful there should be archives for people to go through, as
I have the benefit of going through with the harmonic entropy list. So
I would like to set up a sister list, something like tuning-research,
which is dedicated to stuff like this, and where it should be known in
advance that it might be a high volume list. Or we can take it to
harmonic_entropy or tuning-math or something if people want, but
perhaps those lists should just be better off as they are. That way
things are just more in order.

I really don't want to feel like there is resentment against me, and
also really wish there was a place where I could work on this sort of
thing without bothering people. And nobody should have to be filtering
someone's posts out (and frankly, Ozan's actions in that regard really
piss me off). So this seems like the best option for everyone to be
happy.

Any thoughts? I might just do it and be the only person posting for a
while, just at least to keep a public record of my train of thought,
whether I get feedback or not.

This is, of course, assuming I have a second to do anything while I'm
in Haiti...

-Mike