Re: [tuning] Re: Donso Ngoni Songs from the Tambacounda

"David J. Finnamore" wrote:

> He really does. I hear the roots of Mississippi Hill Country
> Blues in it. Interesting thing, though: while his singing
> is highly microtonally inflected, his pentatonic instrument
> is tuned to 12t-ET within 1 Hz! What's that all about?
> Looking at his picture and listening to his style, I doubt
> this is the result of Western influence.

It could be the result of an electronic tuner built
in Asia.

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David J. Finnamore wrote,

>Interesting thing, though: while his singing is highly microtonally
inflected, his
>pentatonic instrument is tuned to 12t-ET within 1 Hz!

Is it also Pythagorean within 1 Hz?

"Paul H. Erlich" wrote:
>
> From: "Paul H. Erlich" <PERLICH@ACADIAN-ASSET.COM>
>
> David J. Finnamore wrote,
>
> >Interesting thing, though: while his singing is highly microtonally
> inflected, his
> >pentatonic instrument is tuned to 12t-ET within 1 Hz!
>
> Is it also Pythagorean within 1 Hz?

Paul - explain how the instrument can be tuned to
both 12tet and Pythagorean at the same time.

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* http://www.virtulink.com/immp/lookhere.htm

Hugh Tracy pointed out that he never heard an african Scale that resembled
the european. If this is the case, we can be sure that the transitor radio
is not far off.
Already by the 50's the influence upon african music was already starting
to show it's ugly head.

"Paul H. Erlich" wrote:

> From: "Paul H. Erlich" <PERLICH@ACADIAN-ASSET.COM>
>
> David J. Finnamore wrote,
>
> >Interesting thing, though: while his singing is highly microtonally
> inflected, his
> >pentatonic instrument is tuned to 12t-ET within 1 Hz!
>
> Is it also Pythagorean within 1 Hz?
>
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>> >Interesting thing, though: while his singing is highly microtonally
>> inflected, his
>> >pentatonic instrument is tuned to 12t-ET within 1 Hz!
>>
>> Is it also Pythagorean within 1 Hz?

>Paul - explain how the instrument can be tuned to
>both 12tet and Pythagorean at the same time.

A pentatonic scale is very similar in 12-tET and in Pythagorean. It can
easily be within 1 Hz of both, if the instrument plays in a sufficiently low
register.

Kraig Grady wrote:

>Hugh Tracy pointed out that he never heard an african Scale that resembled
>the european. If this is the case, we can be sure that the transitor radio
>is not far off.
>Already by the 50's the influence upon african music was already starting
>to show it's ugly head.

Why "ugly"? Is it ugly that the influence also goes in the other direction?

John Link

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John Link wrote,

> Why "ugly"? Is it ugly that the influence also goes in the other
direction?

Good question.

Dan

BTW, after I heard those Donso Ngoni mp3 tracks, I was just dying to
play with a hunters harp in something like a groovin' jazz trio (with
fretless guitar, the hunters harp substituting for the upright bass,
and drums) because I was (for whatever reason) vividly hearing that
sound so in my head.

johnlink@con2.com wrote:

> From: johnlink@con2.com
>
>
> Why "ugly"?

Just my personal opinion. I find most popular corporate music on the radio garbage.
If you like it go ahead and swallow it whole. You are what you eat:)

> Is it ugly that the influence also goes in the other direction?

European music has gained quite a bit in rythumn from Africa. The music from Africa
was not dumped upon europe for profit or missionary reasons as a method to
"improve" their short comings

>
>

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