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Russia's answer to Harry Partch?

🔗Juhani <jnylenius@...>

9/8/2010 1:08:20 PM

I'm reading the collected writings of the French composer Darius Milhaud', and in a 1926 piece, 'La Vie musicale en U.R.S.S.', he talks about one M. Abrahamoff, a young composer in Moscow, who, according to Milhaud, composed music with 1/16 tones, had four pianos tuned an 1/8 tone apart, owned a microtonal reed organ, and also recommended "the division of octave into 175 parts" as well as making use of 1/4, 1/6, and 1/8 commas in what he called his "universel ton système". Milhaud says his goal was to "détemperer la musique", that is, (virtual) just intonation.

Does anybody here know anything about this guy?

jn

🔗genewardsmith <genewardsmith@...>

9/8/2010 1:16:52 PM

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Juhani" <jnylenius@...> wrote:

> Does anybody here know anything about this guy?

No, but 175et is not a way to totally detemper music; in fact it's a tuning I've used myself for miracle. I'd like to hear more.

🔗Carl Lumma <carl@...>

9/8/2010 1:55:38 PM

Now here's a legitimate question that will no doubt get
drowned in the endless stream of obnoxious B.S. posts from
Michael Sheiman.

I've never heard of Abrahamoff. But I would welcome any
information (or recordings!) you may find.

-Carl

Juhani wrote:

> I'm reading the collected writings of the French composer Darius
> Milhaud', and in a 1926 piece, 'La Vie musicale en U.R.S.S.', he
> talks about one M. Abrahamoff, a young composer in Moscow, who,
> according to Milhaud, composed music with 1/16 tones, had four
> pianos tuned an 1/8 tone apart, owned a microtonal reed organ,
> and also recommended "the division of octave into 175 parts" as
> well as making use of 1/4, 1/6, and 1/8 commas in what he called
> his "universel ton système". Milhaud says his goal was to
> "détemperer la musique", that is, (virtual) just intonation.
>
> Does anybody here know anything about this guy?
>
> jn

🔗Carl Lumma <carl@...>

9/8/2010 3:39:40 PM

> Not anymore than the BS responses from Carl or the changes
> of valid questions I've made

Such as?

When last we left off, it appeared you were too busy foaming
at the mouth with whimpering accusations* to notice that I
answered your question. Thus, you will carry on spouting
nonsense about psychoacoustics, blissfully mischaracterizing
what others say. And you will insert yourself into the same
discussion again, in 6 months or a year, make the same
mistake, and I'll respond that we already covered it, and
you'll cry like a baby that you don't remember, or how were
you supposed to know, etc. And it'll happen again and again,
until the only people reading the list are the poor suckers
dragged into your senseless troll universe, such as Mike B.,
myself, Gene, and Mark Barnes.

Or you could unsubscribe, take a break for a few months,
maybe try your hand at making some music, and then come back
with a fresh start and a more humble, reserved approach to
things.

-Carl

* Typical reaction of entitled idiots to getting years of
free, personalized hand-holding from experts.

🔗hstraub64 <straub@...>

9/9/2010 12:21:04 AM

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Lumma" <carl@...> wrote:
>
> > Not anymore than the BS responses from Carl or the changes
> > of valid questions I've made
>
> Such as?
>

Could at least one of you guys just stop keeping answering if something is BS?
And this time, Carl, the blame goes to you for starting.
--
Hans Straub