RE: [tuning] Well-Tuned MP3 files demo

Linus Liu wrote,

>Please find these two demos of sucessfully tuned work:

I had no problems downloading these.

>1. Beatles "Get Back" at

>http://sharehouse.xoom.com/dnload.php3?FILE_ID=107992

>A little of the same at the end is in equal tempered, to show how badly out
>of tune it immediately becomes (the EQUAL TEMPERED is out of tune).

Interesting -- I sort of liked the tuning (details please), though the
comma-sharp tonic notes made me cringe.

>2. A Chinese violin concerto with a midi piano accompaniment, the
>"Butterfly Lovers" at

>http://sharehouse.xoom.com/dnload.php3?FILE_ID=107910

>The violin is played with all octaves extended, i.e., 81/40 instead of 2/1.
>Since listeners cannot stand a just tuned piano, the piano is in equal
>tempered.
>However, the violin harmonic A 880 Hz prevails in the piece so much that
>the open string A = 440 Hz becomes out of tune in the extended octave
>environment.
>Hence A 440 becomes 434.6 Hz, and the piano is tuned at this A, equal
>tempered over a keyboard on the regular 2/1 octave.

Lovely violin playing and interesting theory, though your vibrato would make
it hard to defend (or disprove) your statement that "All intervals are
JUST." Certainly I didn't hear any 81/40 octaves that disturbed me like the
one in the Beatles example.

Dear Paul,

To be completely honest, I do not know which note is the tonic do
you mean, because I have problem sorting out the key of this song.
But you seem not to see the point of my making this file is to match
as perfectly as possible how Beatles sang it in the first place on their
original CD. I made a file with one tuned midi track against Beatles
original recording, and I will upload it to the "Tuning Punks site at
mp3.com", I still need to know where that is.

"Paul H. Erlich" wrote:

>http://sharehouse.xoom.com/dnload.php3?FILE_ID=107992

>
> >A little of the same at the end is in equal tempered, to show how badly out
> >of tune it immediately becomes (the EQUAL TEMPERED is out of tune).
>
> Interesting -- I sort of liked the tuning (details please), though the
> comma-sharp tonic notes made me cringe.
>
> >2. A Chinese violin concerto with a midi piano accompaniment, the
> >"Butterfly Lovers" at
>
> >http://sharehouse.xoom.com/dnload.php3?FILE_ID=107910
>
> >The violin is played with all octaves extended, i.e., 81/40 instead of 2/1.
> >Since listeners cannot stand a just tuned piano, the piano is in equal
> >tempered.
> >However, the violin harmonic A 880 Hz prevails in the piece so much that
> >the open string A = 440 Hz becomes out of tune in the extended octave
> >environment.
> >Hence A 440 becomes 434.6 Hz, and the piano is tuned at this A, equal
> >tempered over a keyboard on the regular 2/1 octave.
>
> Lovely violin playing and interesting theory, though your vibrato would make
> it hard to defend (or disprove) your statement that "All intervals are
> JUST." Certainly I didn't hear any 81/40 octaves that disturbed me like the
> one in the Beatles example.

My goodness, Get Back is not on a 81/40 but 2/1 octave. The pitchwheel
parameters are: D 1682, E 961, F# 1121, G -80, A 1762, B 1041, C -160.
Divide by 40.96 returns cents.This one is my favorite because all (most or) the
others
has an A=440

Linus Liu wrote,

>To be completely honest, I do not know which note is the tonic do
>you mean, because I have problem sorting out the key of this song.

It's in a Mixolydian mode.

>My goodness, Get Back is not on a 81/40 but 2/1 octave.

When the melody hits the tonic pitch, the last note of the word "belong", is
it not about a comma sharp relative to the accompaniment?