End of the Ethno2 microtonal demo competition

Hi friends,

This is to let you know my internet line has been repaired a few days ago.
I am able to read the wonderful tuning list messages again -
and hear the last Ethno demos (surprising works !) :
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9grkajrdg7uo6ds

And to share with you the totality now of my own 3 Ethno demos -
You can hear and read about them at
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ay9ktuh93lcunxo
I am glad, even if an amateur on that type of instrument, that I could finalize this test
and could gain to keep my own software !

So, Ethno2 microtonal demo competition has arrived at its end yesterday.
Again, my thanks to all the participants !
The AEH Jury will now meet for the deliberation and the award ceremony Thursday evening 22nd of July at 19h., and results should be published on this list this week-end.
Until then and even after the dropbox can receive the last demos and the last versions.
Thanks to precise the tunings and write your presentation if it has not been done.

In the meantime anyone who wishes (that has listened to ALL the titles in the dropbox, per favor !) can send me - perhaps better offlist, or I would be called a spammer - a vote for a list of any number of titles presented by preference order (ex. with numbers 1 2 3 4 5...) and we will try to sort out of it an additionnal *Tuning List* prize.

Candidates themselves can also vote, by two special ways :
- by sending the same kind of list but non-including themselves ;
- by saying what is their own prefered demo(s) according to them, if they have some.

Bye for now, sorry for the disgression,
- - - - - - -
Jacques

Dear Jacques and colleagues,

Thank you so much for the honour of participating in the Ethno2
contest. During my somewhat busy and distracted schedule this month, I
have unfortunately confused the date of the extended deadline -
thinking the contest was going to end on the 21st. Silly me being so
absent minded. That and some minor problems with prolonged lack of
concentration and mental slowness... If it is not yet too late to post
the "thus-far-ready" two pieces I have been working on using the
Ethno2 sounds, here is a quick link to them:

www.ozanyarman.com/misc/nisabureynpesrev_ethno2.mp3
www.ozanyarman.com/misc/Sultansofthedance_ethno2.mp3

The first piece is an incomplete intro of my now-famous Nishabureyn
Peshrev utilizing three 12-tone tuning tables. The instruments used
are Indian Flute v2 (to imitate the ney), Oud, Veena (to imitate the
tanbur with much tweaking), Dilruba (to resemble the bowed tanbur),
Santur 2, Maghreb Violins and the usual array of percussions like
bendirs, darbukas, etc...

The scales used in succession throughout the minute are:

|
16/15
9/8
32/27
32/25
7/5
17/12
3/2
8/5
128/75
16/9
48/25
2/1

|
16/15
9/8
32/27
81/64
4/3
17/12
3/2
8/5
27/16
16/9
48/25
2/1

|
16/15
9/8
6/5
320/243
4/3
17/12
405/256
8/5
5/3
27/16
256/135
2/1

This piece is hardly complete, due mostly to my inability to work with
the 24-tone tuning tables in Ethno2 and my computer system frequently
overloading with the 12-tone replica-instruments setup. In any case,
the intro fits the minimum 50 seconds requirement. With some more
effort and patience, and if I am given the oppurtunity to do so, I would like to conclude the Ethno2 rendition of the Nishabureyn Peshrev
in the near future.

The second piece, again half-complete, and missing at the moment the
most important (and gorgeous) microtonal melody part in the not-
included second minute section, is a grandiose rehash of my "Sultans
of The Dance" intro demo song which I had composed in 2001. It was not used back then for certain reasons and I grabbed the oppurtunity to
prepare a re-make using the beautiful sounds of Ethno2.

A rescued (but a little damaged) recording from those days where I
amateurisly dared to haphazardly pitch-bend the notes to acquire that
wonderful Karjighar melody can be heard here:

www.ozanyarman.com/misc/Sultan.mp3

It is a pity that I couldn't complete it in time, but it should be
understandable since brass sounds (trombones, horns, trumpets) are
absent in Ethno2 and I had to combine several akin instruments
cleverly to imitate a huge brass section and even a make-shift clarinet!

The scales so far used are, a Segah-Rast type tuning and Comptine
according to Jacques' formulation:

|
14/13
9/8
75/64
210/169
4/3
56/39
3/2
128/81
280/169
16/9
315/169
2/1

|
256/243
21995/19683
32/27
8192/6561
4/3
1024/729
9808/6561
128/81
10960/6561
16/9
4096/2187
2/1

The projected Nadhaswaram Karjighar tune will rely on this 12-tone
tuning of mine based on Comptine:

|
14/13
800/729
32/27
210/169
4/3
56/39
3/2
128/81
280/169
16/9
315/169
2/1

Instruments thus far used in "Sultan": Piano Bastringue, Amazona5,
Chimes1, Triangle2, Addiction (warped to produce a Clarinet timbre),
Balkanish Saxophone (to reinforce the Clarinet timbre), Chamber
Machine, Wait in Space, Grand Canyon, Lost Impression, Ominous Pad,
Magreb Violin+Strings, Typical Jupiter /Brassy Mood /Bright Analogic
(combo tweaked for Full Brass effect), Gu 1 Bass, Aboriginal Perc
Bass, Chinese Gong 14.5" / Cambodian Gong 18" 1&2 / Belltree
(hardpanned duo), Shakers Rolls (hardpanned duo)... and more to come
if I can get it complete.

Once again, I would very much like to finish this piece too in the
near future using Ethno2. I hope to be given such an oppurtunity if it
is possible.

My apologies for being so absent minded and neglectful with the dates.
I hope everybody will understand.

Don't forget to vote for the "Son Bir Kez" Hüzzam Sharki!

Cordially,
Dr. Oz.

✩ ✩ ✩
www.ozanyarman.com

On Jul 20, 2010, at 1:43 AM, Jacques Dudon wrote:

>
>
> Hi friends,
>
> This is to let you know my internet line has been repaired a few
> days ago.
> I am able to read the wonderful tuning list messages again -
> and hear the last Ethno demos (surprising works !) :
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/9grkajrdg7uo6ds
>
> And to share with you the totality now of my own 3 Ethno demos -
> You can hear and read about them at
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ay9ktuh93lcunxo
> I am glad, even if an amateur on that type of instrument, that I
> could finalize this test
> and could gain to keep my own software !
>
> So, Ethno2 microtonal demo competition has arrived at its end
> yesterday.
> Again, my thanks to all the participants !
> The AEH Jury will now meet for the deliberation and the award
> ceremony Thursday evening 22nd of July at 19h., and results should
> be published on this list this week-end.
> Until then and even after the dropbox can receive the last demos and
> the last versions.
> Thanks to precise the tunings and write your presentation if it has
> not been done.
>
> In the meantime anyone who wishes (that has listened to ALL the
> titles in the dropbox, per favor !) can send me - perhaps better
> offlist, or I would be called a spammer - a vote for a list of any
> number of titles presented by preference order (ex. with numbers 1 2
> 3 4 5...) and we will try to sort out of it an additionnal *Tuning
> List* prize.
>
> Candidates themselves can also vote, by two special ways :
> - by sending the same kind of list but non-including themselves ;
> - by saying what is their own prefered demo(s) according to them, if
> they have some.
>
> Bye for now, sorry for the disgression,
> - - - - - - -
> Jacques
>
>
>

Hi dear jaques
Glad to hear from u again
Waiting for the result
Best wishes for u
Shaahin

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Jacques Dudon <fotosonix@...> wrote:
>
> Hi friends,
>
> This is to let you know my internet line has been repaired a few days
> ago.
> I am able to read the wonderful tuning list messages again -
> and hear the last Ethno demos (surprising works !) :
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/9grkajrdg7uo6ds
>
> And to share with you the totality now of my own 3 Ethno demos -
> You can hear and read about them at
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ay9ktuh93lcunxo
> I am glad, even if an amateur on that type of instrument, that I
> could finalize this test
> and could gain to keep my own software !
>
> So, Ethno2 microtonal demo competition has arrived at its end yesterday.
> Again, my thanks to all the participants !
> The AEH Jury will now meet for the deliberation and the award
> ceremony Thursday evening 22nd of July at 19h., and results should be
> published on this list this week-end.
> Until then and even after the dropbox can receive the last demos and
> the last versions.
> Thanks to precise the tunings and write your presentation if it has
> not been done.
>
> In the meantime anyone who wishes (that has listened to ALL the
> titles in the dropbox, per favor !) can send me - perhaps better
> offlist, or I would be called a spammer - a vote for a list of any
> number of titles presented by preference order (ex. with numbers 1 2
> 3 4 5...) and we will try to sort out of it an additionnal *Tuning
> List* prize.
>
> Candidates themselves can also vote, by two special ways :
> - by sending the same kind of list but non-including themselves ;
> - by saying what is their own prefered demo(s) according to them, if
> they have some.
>
> Bye for now, sorry for the disgression,
> - - - - - - -
> Jacques
>

Hi folks,

Here are the results of the AEH Jury's deliberations that took place
yesterday 23rd of July, 2010

We made a nice crop of 49 demos from 12 composers, of a astonishing
level of diversity and quality, that we had a real pleasure to listen.

Were used 41 tunings : 12ed(900), Afshari, Amlak, Appalachian, Are-
are women2, Aulos, Comptine, Segah-Rast, Danielou-53, Didymus,
Egyptian Rast, Fibonaccis, Harry, Homayun, Liane, Nung-Phan2,Palabre, Pelog-ambi, Quechua, S-N-Buzurg, Sapaan, Shur, Skisni,
Slendro_matrix, Sumer, Tango_hwt, Tielenka, Todi, Werckmeister3-eb,
Yarman Nishabureyn, Yarman Huzzam Sharki, Zurna ;
Were used 2 times : Bohlen-Pierce, Carlos Gamma, Coherent shrutis,
Flamenca, Golden_h7eb, Myriadgerm, Segah ;
Was used 3 times : Subharmonics.

Criterias of estimation were :
1 Microtonal character of harmonies and melodies
2 Musicality
3 Resonances with world musical traditions
4 Musical innovation

This lend us to award several specific prizes for some pieces from
the following composers :
Microtonal works : Torsten Anders, Ozan Yarman
Personal tunings : Ozan Yarman, Jean-Pierre Poulin
Xeno-harmonicity : Torsten Anders, Carlo Serafini, Shaahin Mohajeri,
Jean-Pierre Poulin
Melodic qualities : Carlo Serafini, Chris Vaisvil, Herve Fouere,
Torsten Anders
Vocal music : Ozan Yarman for "Son Bir Kez"
Spectral coherence : Torsten Anders for "Three and Seven only"
Sound colors : Naomi O'Sullivan, Denis Grandclement, Francois Breton,
Torsten Anders, Hervé Fouere
Musical Traditions : Herve Fouere, Ozan Yarman
Neo-Traditional : Shaahin Mohajeri, Jacques Dudon
Pluri-cultural works : Cameron Bobro, Shaahin Mohajeri, Jacques
Dudon, Chris Vaisvil
Past evocations : Jacques Dudon for "Ishtar", Herve Fouere for "For
Nammu" and "Bamiyan still alive"
Symphonic music : Ozan Yarman, Shaahin Mohajeri
Microtonal Jazz : Carlo Serafini for both "Conference of flutes" and
"Delta Gamma blues2"
Microtonal Rock : Jean-Pierre Poulin for "Les Aventures
d'Assurancetourix"
Improvised music : Jacques Dudon for "Baloujam" and "Xiuhtecatl"
New music styles : Naomi O'Sullivan, Chris Vaisvil, Francois Breton,
Denis Grandclement
Music for the Dance : Denis GrandClement for "Tamam Bolo Palbro",
Naomi O'Sullivan for "Indo-Ko-Tulu"
Musical Theater : Cameron Bobro
Sound Poetry and Humour : Cameron Bobro, Jean-Pierre Poulin
Experimental music : Cameron Bobro, Torsten Anders, François Breton
Ambient music : François Breton for "Saudade Mi KoraSound", Denis
Grandclement for "Hexa Todi Band"
Rhythmic researches : François Breton for "OnZeRoadaGame"
Repetitive music : Francois Breton for "Trezimenofon"

Technical prizes:
Sound Mastering : Denis Grandclement, Carlo Serafini, Chris Vaisvil
Standalone use of Ethno2 : Jean-Pierre Poulin (the only technique he
used).

General prizes :
The Prize of the Best Composition vote goes equally to : "Ruj (smoke
tree)" of Cameron Bobro and "Micro890305-1" of Shaahin Mohajeri (who
shared the same original Segah tuning)
The 3rd Prize of Best Composition was left unprecised between, in
alphabetic order : "Baloujam" of Jacques Dudon, "Delta Gamma blues2"
of Carlo Serafini, "Improbablement" of Denis Grandclement, "Indo-Ko-
Tulu" of Naomi O'Sullivan, "For Nammu" of Herve Fouere, "Nishabureyn
Peshrev" of Ozan Yarman, "Phi-Bonacci" of Jean-Pierre Poulin,
"Saudade Mi KoraSound" of Francois Breton, "Searching for the
Unicorn" of Chris Vaisvil, "Three and Seven only" of Torsten Anders.

The Best Composer's Prize goes equally to : Cameron Bobro and Shaahin
Mohajeri.
Third Best Composer's Prize goes to Denis Grandclement.
Too many concurrents could pretend equally to the 4th Best Composer's
Prize, which was left unprecised.

The Tuning List votes could not be considered as significant because
of a too small number of votants. As we leave the dropbox open, we
leave the vote open also in case more people are motivated to vote
and valid a Alternate Tunings List Prize.

Thanks to all !
- - - - - - - - - - -
Jacques
AEH
Les Camails - 83340 LE THORONET France

Congratulations to everybody who made it to the top! :)

Oz.

✩ ✩ ✩
www.ozanyarman.com

On Jul 24, 2010, at 8:13 PM, Jacques Dudon wrote:

>
>
> Hi folks,
>
> Here are the results of the AEH Jury's deliberations that took place
> yesterday 23rd of July, 2010
>
> We made a nice crop of 49 demos from 12 composers, of a astonishing
> level of diversity and quality, that we had a real pleasure to listen.
>
> Were used 41 tunings : 12ed(900), Afshari, Amlak, Appalachian, Are-
> are women2, Aulos, Comptine, Segah-Rast, Danielou-53, Didymus,
> Egyptian Rast, Fibonaccis, Harry, Homayun, Liane, Nung-Phan2,
> Palabre, Pelog-ambi, Quechua, S-N-Buzurg, Sapaan, Shur, Skisni,
> Slendro_matrix, Sumer, Tango_hwt, Tielenka, Todi, Werckmeister3-eb,
> Yarman Nishabureyn, Yarman Huzzam Sharki, Zurna ;
> Were used 2 times : Bohlen-Pierce, Carlos Gamma, Coherent shrutis, > Flamenca, Golden_h7eb, Myriadgerm, Segah ;
> Was used 3 times : Subharmonics.
>
> Criterias of estimation were :
> 1 Microtonal character of harmonies and melodies
> 2 Musicality
> 3 Resonances with world musical traditions
> 4 Musical innovation
>
> This lend us to award several specific prizes for some pieces from
> the following composers :
> Microtonal works : Torsten Anders, Ozan Yarman
> Personal tunings : Ozan Yarman, Jean-Pierre Poulin
> Xeno-harmonicity : Torsten Anders, Carlo Serafini, Shaahin Mohajeri, > Jean-Pierre Poulin
> Melodic qualities : Carlo Serafini, Chris Vaisvil, Herve Fouere,
> Torsten Anders
> Vocal music : Ozan Yarman for "Son Bir Kez"
> Spectral coherence : Torsten Anders for "Three and Seven only"
> Sound colors : Naomi O'Sullivan, Denis Grandclement, Francois
> Breton, Torsten Anders, Hervé Fouere
> Musical Traditions : Herve Fouere, Ozan Yarman
> Neo-Traditional : Shaahin Mohajeri, Jacques Dudon
> Pluri-cultural works : Cameron Bobro, Shaahin Mohajeri, Jacques
> Dudon, Chris Vaisvil
> Past evocations : Jacques Dudon for "Ishtar", Herve Fouere for "For
> Nammu" and "Bamiyan still alive"
> Symphonic music : Ozan Yarman, Shaahin Mohajeri
> Microtonal Jazz : Carlo Serafini for both "Conference of flutes"
> and "Delta Gamma blues2"
> Microtonal Rock : Jean-Pierre Poulin for "Les Aventures
> d'Assurancetourix"
> Improvised music : Jacques Dudon for "Baloujam" and "Xiuhtecatl"
> New music styles : Naomi O'Sullivan, Chris Vaisvil, Francois Breton,
> Denis Grandclement
> Music for the Dance : Denis GrandClement for "Tamam Bolo Palbro",
> Naomi O'Sullivan for "Indo-Ko-Tulu"
> Musical Theater : Cameron Bobro
> Sound Poetry and Humour : Cameron Bobro, Jean-Pierre Poulin
> Experimental music : Cameron Bobro, Torsten Anders, François Breton
> Ambient music : François Breton for "Saudade Mi KoraSound", Denis
> Grandclement for "Hexa Todi Band"
> Rhythmic researches : François Breton for "OnZeRoadaGame"
> Repetitive music : Francois Breton for "Trezimenofon"
>
> Technical prizes:
> Sound Mastering : Denis Grandclement, Carlo Serafini, Chris Vaisvil
> Standalone use of Ethno2 : Jean-Pierre Poulin (the only technique he
> used).
>
> General prizes :
> The Prize of the Best Composition vote goes equally to : "Ruj (smoke
> tree)" of Cameron Bobro and "Micro890305-1" of Shaahin Mohajeri (who
> shared the same original Segah tuning)
> The 3rd Prize of Best Composition was left unprecised between, in
> alphabetic order : "Baloujam" of Jacques Dudon, "Delta Gamma blues2"
> of Carlo Serafini, "Improbablement" of Denis Grandclement, "Indo-Ko-
> Tulu" of Naomi O'Sullivan, "For Nammu" of Herve Fouere, "Nishabureyn
> Peshrev" of Ozan Yarman, "Phi-Bonacci" of Jean-Pierre Poulin,
> "Saudade Mi KoraSound" of Francois Breton, "Searching for the
> Unicorn" of Chris Vaisvil, "Three and Seven only" of Torsten Anders.
>
> The Best Composer's Prize goes equally to : Cameron Bobro and
> Shaahin Mohajeri.
> Third Best Composer's Prize goes to Denis Grandclement.
> Too many concurrents could pretend equally to the 4th Best
> Composer's Prize, which was left unprecised.
>
> The Tuning List votes could not be considered as significant because
> of a too small number of votants. As we leave the dropbox open, we
> leave the vote open also in case more people are motivated to vote
> and valid a Alternate Tunings List Prize.
>
> Thanks to all !
> - - - - - - - - - - -
> Jacques
> AEH
> Les Camails - 83340 LE THORONET France
>

Dear Jacques,

thanks you for organising this competition and for your feedback.

Please let us know of any demos that make it to the MOTO web site.

Thank you!

Best wishes,
Torsten

--
Torsten Anders
Interdisciplinary Centre for Computer Music Research
University of Plymouth
Office: +44-1752-586219
Private: +44-1752-558917
http://strasheela.sourceforge.net
http://www.torsten-anders.de

On 24.07.2010, at 18:13, Jacques Dudon wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
>
> Here are the results of the AEH Jury's deliberations that took place
> yesterday 23rd of July, 2010
>
> We made a nice crop of 49 demos from 12 composers, of a astonishing
> level of diversity and quality, that we had a real pleasure to listen.
>
> Were used 41 tunings : 12ed(900), Afshari, Amlak, Appalachian, Are-
> are women2, Aulos, Comptine, Segah-Rast, Danielou-53, Didymus,
> Egyptian Rast, Fibonaccis, Harry, Homayun, Liane, Nung-Phan2,
> Palabre, Pelog-ambi, Quechua, S-N-Buzurg, Sapaan, Shur, Skisni,
> Slendro_matrix, Sumer, Tango_hwt, Tielenka, Todi, Werckmeister3-eb,
> Yarman Nishabureyn, Yarman Huzzam Sharki, Zurna ;
> Were used 2 times : Bohlen-Pierce, Carlos Gamma, Coherent shrutis,
> Flamenca, Golden_h7eb, Myriadgerm, Segah ;
> Was used 3 times : Subharmonics.
>
> Criterias of estimation were :
> 1 Microtonal character of harmonies and melodies
> 2 Musicality
> 3 Resonances with world musical traditions
> 4 Musical innovation
>
> This lend us to award several specific prizes for some pieces from
> the following composers :
> Microtonal works : Torsten Anders, Ozan Yarman
> Personal tunings : Ozan Yarman, Jean-Pierre Poulin
> Xeno-harmonicity : Torsten Anders, Carlo Serafini, Shaahin Mohajeri,
> Jean-Pierre Poulin
> Melodic qualities : Carlo Serafini, Chris Vaisvil, Herve Fouere,
> Torsten Anders
> Vocal music : Ozan Yarman for "Son Bir Kez"
> Spectral coherence : Torsten Anders for "Three and Seven only"
> Sound colors : Naomi O'Sullivan, Denis Grandclement, Francois
> Breton, Torsten Anders, Hervé Fouere
> Musical Traditions : Herve Fouere, Ozan Yarman
> Neo-Traditional : Shaahin Mohajeri, Jacques Dudon
> Pluri-cultural works : Cameron Bobro, Shaahin Mohajeri, Jacques
> Dudon, Chris Vaisvil
> Past evocations : Jacques Dudon for "Ishtar", Herve Fouere for "For
> Nammu" and "Bamiyan still alive"
> Symphonic music : Ozan Yarman, Shaahin Mohajeri
> Microtonal Jazz : Carlo Serafini for both "Conference of flutes"
> and "Delta Gamma blues2"
> Microtonal Rock : Jean-Pierre Poulin for "Les Aventures
> d'Assurancetourix"
> Improvised music : Jacques Dudon for "Baloujam" and "Xiuhtecatl"
> New music styles : Naomi O'Sullivan, Chris Vaisvil, Francois Breton,
> Denis Grandclement
> Music for the Dance : Denis GrandClement for "Tamam Bolo Palbro",
> Naomi O'Sullivan for "Indo-Ko-Tulu"
> Musical Theater : Cameron Bobro
> Sound Poetry and Humour : Cameron Bobro, Jean-Pierre Poulin
> Experimental music : Cameron Bobro, Torsten Anders, François Breton
> Ambient music : François Breton for "Saudade Mi KoraSound", Denis
> Grandclement for "Hexa Todi Band"
> Rhythmic researches : François Breton for "OnZeRoadaGame"
> Repetitive music : Francois Breton for "Trezimenofon"
>
> Technical prizes:
> Sound Mastering : Denis Grandclement, Carlo Serafini, Chris Vaisvil
> Standalone use of Ethno2 : Jean-Pierre Poulin (the only technique he
> used).
>
> General prizes :
> The Prize of the Best Composition vote goes equally to : "Ruj (smoke
> tree)" of Cameron Bobro and "Micro890305-1" of Shaahin Mohajeri (who
> shared the same original Segah tuning)
> The 3rd Prize of Best Composition was left unprecised between, in
> alphabetic order : "Baloujam" of Jacques Dudon, "Delta Gamma blues2"
> of Carlo Serafini, "Improbablement" of Denis Grandclement, "Indo-Ko-
> Tulu" of Naomi O'Sullivan, "For Nammu" of Herve Fouere, "Nishabureyn
> Peshrev" of Ozan Yarman, "Phi-Bonacci" of Jean-Pierre Poulin,
> "Saudade Mi KoraSound" of Francois Breton, "Searching for the
> Unicorn" of Chris Vaisvil, "Three and Seven only" of Torsten Anders.
>
> The Best Composer's Prize goes equally to : Cameron Bobro and
> Shaahin Mohajeri.
> Third Best Composer's Prize goes to Denis Grandclement.
> Too many concurrents could pretend equally to the 4th Best
> Composer's Prize, which was left unprecised.
>
> The Tuning List votes could not be considered as significant because
> of a too small number of votants. As we leave the dropbox open, we
> leave the vote open also in case more people are motivated to vote
> and valid a Alternate Tunings List Prize.
>
> Thanks to all !
> - - - - - - - - - - -
> Jacques
> AEH
> Les Camails - 83340 LE THORONET France
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Please express my thanks to the judges for coming to a concensus in
what must be record time.

My congratulations to the winners - and to everyone who participated
- a lot of work to learn a new package and produce 49 pieces - even
with the extended period for entries this still required lots of focus
on the part of every participant. From what I heard everyone rocked
Ethno 2!!

Chris Vaisvil

On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Jacques Dudon <fotosonix@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi folks,
>
> Here are the results of the AEH Jury's deliberations that took place yesterday 23rd of July, 2010
> We made a nice crop of 49 demos from 12 composers, of a astonishing level of diversity and quality, that we had a real pleasure to listen.

Well that's the next step now and I hope we will get MOTU cooperative and efficient now !
First I have been asked to write a survey of the competition. Then it will be up to them to tell us how many demos they wish, their maximum duration, the data that will come along, etc.

BTW I am asking english / american speakers to make corrections, please, of the competition survey I just sent, if some improvement can be done in term of language. I made up some unusual terms like "Xeno-harmonicity", "Neo-Traditional", "Past evocations", "New music styles", "Spectral coherence" etc. that may be incorrect. Thanks for your help !

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Torsten Anders <torsten.anders@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Jacques,
>
> thanks you for organising this competition and for your feedback.
>
> Please let us know of any demos that make it to the MOTO web site.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Best wishes,
> Torsten
>
> --
> Torsten Anders
> Interdisciplinary Centre for Computer Music Research
> University of Plymouth
> Office: +44-1752-586219
> Private: +44-1752-558917
> http://strasheela.sourceforge.net
> http://www.torsten-anders.de
>
>
>
>
>
> On 24.07.2010, at 18:13, Jacques Dudon wrote:
>
> > Hi folks,
> >
> >
> > Here are the results of the AEH Jury's deliberations that took place
> > yesterday 23rd of July, 2010
> >
> > We made a nice crop of 49 demos from 12 composers, of a astonishing
> > level of diversity and quality, that we had a real pleasure to listen.
> >
> > Were used 41 tunings : 12ed(900), Afshari, Amlak, Appalachian, Are-
> > are women2, Aulos, Comptine, Segah-Rast, Danielou-53, Didymus,
> > Egyptian Rast, Fibonaccis, Harry, Homayun, Liane, Nung-Phan2,
> > Palabre, Pelog-ambi, Quechua, S-N-Buzurg, Sapaan, Shur, Skisni,
> > Slendro_matrix, Sumer, Tango_hwt, Tielenka, Todi, Werckmeister3-eb,
> > Yarman Nishabureyn, Yarman Huzzam Sharki, Zurna ;
> > Were used 2 times : Bohlen-Pierce, Carlos Gamma, Coherent shrutis,
> > Flamenca, Golden_h7eb, Myriadgerm, Segah ;
> > Was used 3 times : Subharmonics.
> >
> > Criterias of estimation were :
> > 1 Microtonal character of harmonies and melodies
> > 2 Musicality
> > 3 Resonances with world musical traditions
> > 4 Musical innovation
> >
> > This lend us to award several specific prizes for some pieces from
> > the following composers :
> > Microtonal works : Torsten Anders, Ozan Yarman
> > Personal tunings : Ozan Yarman, Jean-Pierre Poulin
> > Xeno-harmonicity : Torsten Anders, Carlo Serafini, Shaahin Mohajeri,
> > Jean-Pierre Poulin
> > Melodic qualities : Carlo Serafini, Chris Vaisvil, Herve Fouere,
> > Torsten Anders
> > Vocal music : Ozan Yarman for "Son Bir Kez"
> > Spectral coherence : Torsten Anders for "Three and Seven only"
> > Sound colors : Naomi O'Sullivan, Denis Grandclement, Francois
> > Breton, Torsten Anders, Hervé Fouere
> > Musical Traditions : Herve Fouere, Ozan Yarman
> > Neo-Traditional : Shaahin Mohajeri, Jacques Dudon
> > Pluri-cultural works : Cameron Bobro, Shaahin Mohajeri, Jacques
> > Dudon, Chris Vaisvil
> > Past evocations : Jacques Dudon for "Ishtar", Herve Fouere for "For
> > Nammu" and "Bamiyan still alive"
> > Symphonic music : Ozan Yarman, Shaahin Mohajeri
> > Microtonal Jazz : Carlo Serafini for both "Conference of flutes"
> > and "Delta Gamma blues2"
> > Microtonal Rock : Jean-Pierre Poulin for "Les Aventures
> > d'Assurancetourix"
> > Improvised music : Jacques Dudon for "Baloujam" and "Xiuhtecatl"
> > New music styles : Naomi O'Sullivan, Chris Vaisvil, Francois Breton,
> > Denis Grandclement
> > Music for the Dance : Denis GrandClement for "Tamam Bolo Palbro",
> > Naomi O'Sullivan for "Indo-Ko-Tulu"
> > Musical Theater : Cameron Bobro
> > Sound Poetry and Humour : Cameron Bobro, Jean-Pierre Poulin
> > Experimental music : Cameron Bobro, Torsten Anders, François Breton
> > Ambient music : François Breton for "Saudade Mi KoraSound", Denis
> > Grandclement for "Hexa Todi Band"
> > Rhythmic researches : François Breton for "OnZeRoadaGame"
> > Repetitive music : Francois Breton for "Trezimenofon"
> >
> > Technical prizes:
> > Sound Mastering : Denis Grandclement, Carlo Serafini, Chris Vaisvil
> > Standalone use of Ethno2 : Jean-Pierre Poulin (the only technique he
> > used).
> >
> > General prizes :
> > The Prize of the Best Composition vote goes equally to : "Ruj (smoke
> > tree)" of Cameron Bobro and "Micro890305-1" of Shaahin Mohajeri (who
> > shared the same original Segah tuning)
> > The 3rd Prize of Best Composition was left unprecised between, in
> > alphabetic order : "Baloujam" of Jacques Dudon, "Delta Gamma blues2"
> > of Carlo Serafini, "Improbablement" of Denis Grandclement, "Indo-Ko-
> > Tulu" of Naomi O'Sullivan, "For Nammu" of Herve Fouere, "Nishabureyn
> > Peshrev" of Ozan Yarman, "Phi-Bonacci" of Jean-Pierre Poulin,
> > "Saudade Mi KoraSound" of Francois Breton, "Searching for the
> > Unicorn" of Chris Vaisvil, "Three and Seven only" of Torsten Anders.
> >
> > The Best Composer's Prize goes equally to : Cameron Bobro and
> > Shaahin Mohajeri.
> > Third Best Composer's Prize goes to Denis Grandclement.
> > Too many concurrents could pretend equally to the 4th Best
> > Composer's Prize, which was left unprecised.
> >
> > The Tuning List votes could not be considered as significant because
> > of a too small number of votants. As we leave the dropbox open, we
> > leave the vote open also in case more people are motivated to vote
> > and valid a Alternate Tunings List Prize.
> >
> > Thanks to all !
> > - - - - - - - - - - -
> > Jacques
> > AEH
> > Les Camails - 83340 LE THORONET France
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Many times, from the yahoo website, my answers get zapped to neant. It says "Your message has been posted" - - but apparently not in the Tuning List !
Anyway, this was my answer to you this morning, as I took the precaution to write first on a text application :

Thanks Chris,

Is it a "consensus" I don't know, our point was simply to be just, but good if we did and yes, I can witness it took a long but very enjoyable time and the "judges" did a serious job !
Everyone of the 12 participants rocked that box, that's for sure !

I Forgot to give the dropbox link again for those who want to vote for a TL special prize :
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9grkajrdg7uo6ds

All our thanks for Francois for managing this access. Knowing in addition his Ethno2 got stuck for one month with for a silly problem of bugged I-lok, he really deserves the prize of "Bonne camaraderie" ! - (how do you say: good fellowship ?)
And no mention my warm thanks of course to the genius-creator of Scala- Manuel Op de Coul. This was my first encounter with that tool, and won't be the last one.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Jacques

Chris wrote :
> Please express my thanks to the judges for coming to a concensus in
> what must be record time.
>
> My congratulations to the winners - and to everyone who participated
> - a lot of work to learn a new package and produce 49 pieces - even
> with the extended period for entries this still required lots of focus
> on the part of every participant. From what I heard everyone rocked
> Ethno 2!!
>
> Chris Vaisvil

Is it a "consensus" I don't know, it was not our point, but good if we did and yes, I can witness the "judges" did a serious job, and had a good time !
Everyone rocked that box it that's for sure !
Forgot to give the dropbox link again for those who want to vote for a TL special prize :
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9grkajrdg7uo6ds
My thanks for Francois for managing this access. Knowing in addition his Ethno2 got stuck for one month with for a silly problem of bugged I-lok, he really deserves the prize of "Bonne camaraderie" ! - (how do you say: good fellowship ?)
And no mention my warm thanks of course to the genius creator of Scala, Manuel Op de Coul. That was my first encounter with that tool, and won't be the last one.

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...> wrote:
>
> Please express my thanks to the judges for coming to a concensus in
> what must be record time.
>
> My congratulations to the winners - and to everyone who participated
> - a lot of work to learn a new package and produce 49 pieces - even
> with the extended period for entries this still required lots of focus
> on the part of every participant. From what I heard everyone rocked
> Ethno 2!!
>
> Chris Vaisvil
>
> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Jacques Dudon <fotosonix@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > Here are the results of the AEH Jury's deliberations that took place yesterday 23rd of July, 2010
> > We made a nice crop of 49 demos from 12 composers, of a astonishing level of diversity and quality, that we had a real pleasure to listen.
>

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Jacques Dudon <fotosonix@...> wrote:
>
> Many times, from the yahoo website, my answers get zapped to
> neant. It says "Your message has been posted" - - but apparently
> not in the Tuning List !

This list and MakeMicroMusic have been acting badly lately.
Yahoo has this issue from time to time. Hopefully it will
be resolved soon.

-Carl

Dear freinds and dear jaques
Hi
Many thanks to u all to participate in this competition.
And jaques , many thanks to you to give us a good chance for composing and learning.
Music is a very special art and mainly microtonal or xemharmonic music.
And microtonalist are also special musicians ...With special language due to their style and scales working on.
As i heared All the music , i loved all of them as the best microtonal musics composed for this competition.

Shaahin

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Jacques Dudon <fotosonix@...> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> Here are the results of the AEH Jury's deliberations that took place
> yesterday 23rd of July, 2010
>
> We made a nice crop of 49 demos from 12 composers, of a astonishing
> level of diversity and quality, that we had a real pleasure to listen.
>
> Were used 41 tunings : 12ed(900), Afshari, Amlak, Appalachian, Are-
> are women2, Aulos, Comptine, Segah-Rast, Danielou-53, Didymus,
> Egyptian Rast, Fibonaccis, Harry, Homayun, Liane, Nung-Phan2,
> Palabre, Pelog-ambi, Quechua, S-N-Buzurg, Sapaan, Shur, Skisni,
> Slendro_matrix, Sumer, Tango_hwt, Tielenka, Todi, Werckmeister3-eb,
> Yarman Nishabureyn, Yarman Huzzam Sharki, Zurna ;
> Were used 2 times : Bohlen-Pierce, Carlos Gamma, Coherent shrutis,
> Flamenca, Golden_h7eb, Myriadgerm, Segah ;
> Was used 3 times : Subharmonics.
>
> Criterias of estimation were :
> 1 Microtonal character of harmonies and melodies
> 2 Musicality
> 3 Resonances with world musical traditions
> 4 Musical innovation
>
> This lend us to award several specific prizes for some pieces from
> the following composers :
> Microtonal works : Torsten Anders, Ozan Yarman
> Personal tunings : Ozan Yarman, Jean-Pierre Poulin
> Xeno-harmonicity : Torsten Anders, Carlo Serafini, Shaahin Mohajeri,
> Jean-Pierre Poulin
> Melodic qualities : Carlo Serafini, Chris Vaisvil, Herve Fouere,
> Torsten Anders
> Vocal music : Ozan Yarman for "Son Bir Kez"
> Spectral coherence : Torsten Anders for "Three and Seven only"
> Sound colors : Naomi O'Sullivan, Denis Grandclement, Francois Breton,
> Torsten Anders, Hervé Fouere
> Musical Traditions : Herve Fouere, Ozan Yarman
> Neo-Traditional : Shaahin Mohajeri, Jacques Dudon
> Pluri-cultural works : Cameron Bobro, Shaahin Mohajeri, Jacques
> Dudon, Chris Vaisvil
> Past evocations : Jacques Dudon for "Ishtar", Herve Fouere for "For
> Nammu" and "Bamiyan still alive"
> Symphonic music : Ozan Yarman, Shaahin Mohajeri
> Microtonal Jazz : Carlo Serafini for both "Conference of flutes" and
> "Delta Gamma blues2"
> Microtonal Rock : Jean-Pierre Poulin for "Les Aventures
> d'Assurancetourix"
> Improvised music : Jacques Dudon for "Baloujam" and "Xiuhtecatl"
> New music styles : Naomi O'Sullivan, Chris Vaisvil, Francois Breton,
> Denis Grandclement
> Music for the Dance : Denis GrandClement for "Tamam Bolo Palbro",
> Naomi O'Sullivan for "Indo-Ko-Tulu"
> Musical Theater : Cameron Bobro
> Sound Poetry and Humour : Cameron Bobro, Jean-Pierre Poulin
> Experimental music : Cameron Bobro, Torsten Anders, François Breton
> Ambient music : François Breton for "Saudade Mi KoraSound", Denis
> Grandclement for "Hexa Todi Band"
> Rhythmic researches : François Breton for "OnZeRoadaGame"
> Repetitive music : Francois Breton for "Trezimenofon"
>
> Technical prizes:
> Sound Mastering : Denis Grandclement, Carlo Serafini, Chris Vaisvil
> Standalone use of Ethno2 : Jean-Pierre Poulin (the only technique he
> used).
>
> General prizes :
> The Prize of the Best Composition vote goes equally to : "Ruj (smoke
> tree)" of Cameron Bobro and "Micro890305-1" of Shaahin Mohajeri (who
> shared the same original Segah tuning)
> The 3rd Prize of Best Composition was left unprecised between, in
> alphabetic order : "Baloujam" of Jacques Dudon, "Delta Gamma blues2"
> of Carlo Serafini, "Improbablement" of Denis Grandclement, "Indo-Ko-
> Tulu" of Naomi O'Sullivan, "For Nammu" of Herve Fouere, "Nishabureyn
> Peshrev" of Ozan Yarman, "Phi-Bonacci" of Jean-Pierre Poulin,
> "Saudade Mi KoraSound" of Francois Breton, "Searching for the
> Unicorn" of Chris Vaisvil, "Three and Seven only" of Torsten Anders.
>
> The Best Composer's Prize goes equally to : Cameron Bobro and Shaahin
> Mohajeri.
> Third Best Composer's Prize goes to Denis Grandclement.
> Too many concurrents could pretend equally to the 4th Best Composer's
> Prize, which was left unprecised.
>
> The Tuning List votes could not be considered as significant because
> of a too small number of votants. As we leave the dropbox open, we
> leave the vote open also in case more people are motivated to vote
> and valid a Alternate Tunings List Prize.
>
> Thanks to all !
> - - - - - - - - - - -
> Jacques
> AEH
> Les Camails - 83340 LE THORONET France
>

(My posts from yesterday morning are not here at all! Happily I had done one in a text file so it was saved. Have to go back and rewrite the others, argh.)

I feel very honored by the results of the competition and by having participated- not to mention getting the chance to use an excellent musical instrument ideally suited for microtonal work!

This was an extraordinarily generous devotion of time and resources on the part of Jacques and MOTU, and I'm sure everyone involved is equally grateful and enthusiastic about this.

Unfortunately I was without internet for quite some time recently, so I regret having missed the opportunity to comment more during the process. For example, some time ago Chris did an improvisation in the "Squares temperament" that I thought had great potential, and I had thought to suggest that he make an Ethno2 demo based on this, as it would have been a specific example of a Tuning List tuning, and both the piece and tuning were sounding very good.

One of the most powerful and important qualities of Ethno2 was understandably not possible to demonstrate in this event. That is, it functions perfectly as an instrument among other, acoustic, instruments. The tendency to "fade out" in mix with acoustic instruments has always been a weakness of software synthesizers, in my experience, so it is a big plus when the instrument can be used in conjunction with recorded sounds without having to be "hyped".

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "jacques.dudon" <fotosonix@...> wrote:
> BTW I am asking english / american speakers to make corrections, >please, of the competition survey I just sent, if some improvement >can be done in term of language. I made up some unusual terms
>like "Xeno-harmonicity", "Neo-Traditional", "Past evocations", "New >music styles", "Spectral coherence" etc. that may be incorrect. >Thanks for your help !

These are all perfectly correct as far as I can tell, though "xenharmonicity" might be Ivor Darreg's original term?

-Cameron Bobro

I feel very honored by the results of the competition and by having participated- not to mention getting the chance to use an excellent musical instrument ideally suited for microtonal work!

This was an extraordinarily generous devotion of time and resources on the part of Jacques and MOTU, and I'm sure everyone involved is equally grateful and enthusiastic about this.

Unfortunately I was without internet for quite some time recently, so I regret having missed the opportunity to comment more during the process. For example, some time ago Chris did an improvisation in the "Squares temperament" that I thought had great potential, and I had thought to suggest that he make an Ethno2 demo based on this, as it would have been a specific example of a Tuning List tuning, and both the piece and tuning were sounding very good.

One of the most powerful and important qualities of Ethno2 was understandably not possible to demonstrate in this event. That is, it functions perfectly as an instrument among other, acoustic, instruments. The tendency to "fade out" in mix with acoustic instruments has always been a weakness of software synthesizers, in my experience, so it is a big plus when the instrument can be used in conjunction with recorded sounds without having to be "hyped".

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "jacques.dudon" <fotosonix@...> wrote:
> BTW I am asking english / american speakers to make corrections, >please, of the competition survey I just sent, if some improvement >can be done in term of language. I made up some unusual terms >like "Xeno-harmonicity", "Neo-Traditional", "Past evocations", "New >music styles", "Spectral coherence" etc. that may be incorrect. >Thanks for your help !

These are all perfectly correct as far as I can tell, though "xenharmonicity" might be Ivor Darreg's original term?

More later, gotta run,

-Cameron Bobro