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Fat Bebe Micro (19ET)

🔗christopherv <chrisvaisvil@...>

6/24/2010 8:27:15 PM

This is a microtonal Jazz-ish piece produced with some newly developed techniques.

Norm Harris provides the excellent percussion. I probably could have made it easier on myself by not being so chromatic... but there it is. NOTE to Carl Lumma - I post to more groups than the ones you read and saying things like "From the Tuning List" or giving explanations as below make perfect sense in that context.

Download
http://notonlymusic.com/board/download/file.php?id=483

Online play
http://notonlymusic.com/board/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=370&start=10#p2500

The piano, bass, and saxophones are a Roland GR-20 played in 19 notes per octave - how this is done is described below.

Fender guitar to Roland GR-20 - the GR-20 has "local control off" and each string has its data sent on a separate channel
midi from the GR-20 (the play of the mustang) goes to the laptop (midi to usb)
Fractal Tune Smithy takes the midi in and re-tunes it live from 12 edo to 19 edo using closest midi note + pitch bend commands
the re-tuned midi data is sent back to the GR-20
The GR-20 plays the data and gives analog output
the analog out is sent to the Alesis mixer and then to the desktop
The desktop running Sonar uses the analog input as it would any live signal and records it.

The lead guitar is a Fender Squier Strat copy which I ripped off the frets and then back filled the fret cuts with plastic wood + sanded. The Squier is run through an Alesis mix into Sonar with Guitar Rig 4.

I took about 6 shots at the lead using Sonar's automatic multiple take function and then edited the takes to take what I wanted. The leads could be better - though this is the first time I tried something so microtonal in this idiom.

🔗Torsten Anders <torsten.anders@...>

6/25/2010 3:09:01 AM

On 25.06.2010, at 04:27, christopherv wrote:
> This is a microtonal Jazz-ish piece produced with some newly > developed techniques.
>
I like this :) Clearly xenharmonic, while using some harmony that makes sense.

Best wishes,
Torsten

--
Torsten Anders
Interdisciplinary Centre for Computer Music Research
University of Plymouth
Office: +44-1752-586219
Private: +44-1752-558917
http://strasheela.sourceforge.net
http://www.torsten-anders.de

🔗Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...>

6/25/2010 5:29:26 AM

Hi Torsten,

Thanks for the listen and comment!

Chris

On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 6:09 AM, Torsten Anders <
torsten.anders@...> wrote:

>
>
> On 25.06.2010, at 04:27, christopherv wrote:
> > This is a microtonal Jazz-ish piece produced with some newly
> > developed techniques.
> >
> I like this :) Clearly xenharmonic, while using some harmony that
> makes sense.
>
> Best wishes,
> Torsten
>
> --
> Torsten Anders
> Interdisciplinary Centre for Computer Music Research
> University of Plymouth
> Office: +44-1752-586219
> Private: +44-1752-558917
> http://strasheela.sourceforge.net
> http://www.torsten-anders.de
>
>
>

🔗Danny Wier <dawiertx@...>

6/25/2010 1:38:41 PM

At first, I thought the fretless guitar was someone singing! I heard a bit of rebab or sarangi in the sound too.

I really would like fretless guitar to catch on like fretless bass has. I know, there are issues with sustain and playing chords, but so what; it's intended to be played and sounding differently. (I don't have that much trouble playing power fifths on oud either.)

Thumbs up from me, anyhow--and I need to hear the rest of your recordings soon.

~D.

--- On Thu, 6/24/10, christopherv <chrisvaisvil@...> wrote:

> From: christopherv <chrisvaisvil@...>
> Subject: [tuning] Fat Bebe Micro (19ET)
> To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, June 24, 2010, 10:27 PM
> This is a microtonal Jazz-ish piece
> produced with some newly developed techniques.
>
> Norm Harris provides the excellent percussion. I probably
> could have made it easier on myself by not being so
> chromatic... but there it is.  NOTE to Carl Lumma - I
> post to more groups than the ones you read and saying things
> like "From the Tuning List" or giving explanations as below
> make perfect sense in that context.
>
> Download
> http://notonlymusic.com/board/download/file.php?id=483
>
> Online play
> http://notonlymusic.com/board/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=370&start=10#p2500
>
> The piano, bass, and saxophones are a Roland GR-20 played
> in 19 notes per octave - how this is done is described
> below.
>
> Fender guitar to Roland GR-20 - the GR-20 has "local
> control off" and each string has its data sent on a separate
> channel
> midi from the GR-20 (the play of the mustang) goes to the
> laptop (midi to usb)
> Fractal Tune Smithy takes the midi in and re-tunes it live
> from 12 edo to 19 edo using closest midi note + pitch bend
> commands
> the re-tuned midi data is sent back to the GR-20
> The GR-20 plays the data and gives analog output
> the analog out is sent to the Alesis mixer and then to the
> desktop
> The desktop running Sonar uses the analog input as it would
> any live signal and records it.
>
> The lead guitar is a Fender Squier Strat copy which I
> ripped off the frets and then back filled the fret cuts with
> plastic wood + sanded. The Squier is run through an Alesis
> mix into Sonar with Guitar Rig 4.
>
> I took about 6 shots at the lead using Sonar's automatic
> multiple take function and then edited the takes to take
> what I wanted. The leads could be better - though this is
> the first time I tried something so microtonal in this
> idiom.

🔗Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...>

6/25/2010 3:39:59 PM

Thanks for the listen and comment Danny!

Chris

On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Danny Wier <dawiertx@...> wrote:

>
>
> At first, I thought the fretless guitar was someone singing! I heard a bit
> of rebab or sarangi in the sound too.
>
> I really would like fretless guitar to catch on like fretless bass has. I
> know, there are issues with sustain and playing chords, but so what; it's
> intended to be played and sounding differently. (I don't have that much
> trouble playing power fifths on oud either.)
>
> Thumbs up from me, anyhow--and I need to hear the rest of your recordings
> soon.
>
> ~D.
>
> --- On Thu, 6/24/10, christopherv <chrisvaisvil@gmail.com<chrisvaisvil%40gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> > From: christopherv <chrisvaisvil@... <chrisvaisvil%40gmail.com>>
> > Subject: [tuning] Fat Bebe Micro (19ET)
> > To: tuning@yahoogroups.com <tuning%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: Thursday, June 24, 2010, 10:27 PM
>
> > This is a microtonal Jazz-ish piece
> > produced with some newly developed techniques.
> >
> > Norm Harris provides the excellent percussion. I probably
> > could have made it easier on myself by not being so
> > chromatic... but there it is. NOTE to Carl Lumma - I
> > post to more groups than the ones you read and saying things
> > like "From the Tuning List" or giving explanations as below
> > make perfect sense in that context.
> >
> > Download
> > http://notonlymusic.com/board/download/file.php?id=483
> >
> > Online play
> > http://notonlymusic.com/board/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=370&start=10#p2500
> >
> > The piano, bass, and saxophones are a Roland GR-20 played
> > in 19 notes per octave - how this is done is described
> > below.
> >
> > Fender guitar to Roland GR-20 - the GR-20 has "local
> > control off" and each string has its data sent on a separate
> > channel
> > midi from the GR-20 (the play of the mustang) goes to the
> > laptop (midi to usb)
> > Fractal Tune Smithy takes the midi in and re-tunes it live
> > from 12 edo to 19 edo using closest midi note + pitch bend
> > commands
> > the re-tuned midi data is sent back to the GR-20
> > The GR-20 plays the data and gives analog output
> > the analog out is sent to the Alesis mixer and then to the
> > desktop
> > The desktop running Sonar uses the analog input as it would
> > any live signal and records it.
> >
> > The lead guitar is a Fender Squier Strat copy which I
> > ripped off the frets and then back filled the fret cuts with
> > plastic wood + sanded. The Squier is run through an Alesis
> > mix into Sonar with Guitar Rig 4.
> >
> > I took about 6 shots at the lead using Sonar's automatic
> > multiple take function and then edited the takes to take
> > what I wanted. The leads could be better - though this is
> > the first time I tried something so microtonal in this
> > idiom.
>
>

🔗Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...>

6/25/2010 7:31:00 PM

Danny,

The best single source for my more serious music can be found on
www.chrisvaisvil.com

thank you again.

Chris

On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Danny Wier <dawiertx@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> At first, I thought the fretless guitar was someone singing! I heard a bit of rebab or sarangi in the sound too.
>
> I really would like fretless guitar to catch on like fretless bass has. I know, there are issues with sustain and playing chords, but so what; it's intended to be played and sounding differently. (I don't have that much trouble playing power fifths on oud either.)
>
> Thumbs up from me, anyhow--and I need to hear the rest of your recordings soon.
>
> ~D.
>