In Praise of Graham Breed

http://x31eq.com/temper/uv.html

FWiW, I think this is an amazingly utilitarian tool (given that you understand a bit of its intentions/design), and right up my alley and just the kind of thing I'd hope most hardcore theorist would be working towards------so thanks Graham, and ten thumbs up and PLEASE keep up the good work!
daniel

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "daniel_anthony_stearns" <daniel_anthony_stearns@...> wrote:
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> http://x31eq.com/temper/uv.html
>
> FWiW, I think this is an amazingly utilitarian tool (given that you understand a bit of its intentions/design), and right up my alley and just the kind of thing I'd hope most hardcore theorist would be working towards------so thanks Graham, and ten thumbs up and PLEASE keep up the good work!

Ditto, ditto! And if anyone else feels inspired to put online widgets up there, I could suggest some things to code.

Present! Throw your ideas at me. My goal is to make a general
microtonal utility site.

I already have the online midi scale player/scala parser, time to add
to my arsenal of stuff to make people's lives easier.

-Mike

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@...> wrote:
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> Present! Throw your ideas at me. My goal is to make a general
> microtonal utility site.

On Jacob's Xenharmonic wiki I've been putting up a ton of theory stuff, and while writing a page on "Normal lists" it occurred to me that an online dodad to find interval and val normal lists would be cool. Something to find multivals could also be a fun project for anyone who actually likes to code.

MikeB>"Present! Throw your ideas at me. My goal is to make a general microtonal utility site."

A few ideas:
1) A dyad/chord tester. Plays many well-known micro-tonal chords or lets you create your own and compare/rate how they sound to you and lets you load samples of different instruments to test how different timbres feel with such chords.
2) A scale generator. Enter things like dyads or chord you like (or select from a list of what you entered in #1), select a maximum number of tones for the scale, select a maximum allowed number of cents deviation from your chords/dyads...and the scale generator will make a few scales with as many chords/dyads you like as possible and then tell you
A) If the scale is near a certain MOS, TET, regular temperament, or other type of pre-existing scale
B) Where the chords/dyads you like appear in the scale

I already kind of have 2...only it kind of cheats in that it requires you to enter just a few generators it can use (in any order) to create a scale and then shows you all combinations that fit the octave within 10 cents with all intervals being within a certain number of cents from selected dyads.

Oddly enough, that program "automatically" led me to two of Gene's strictly proper 7-tone scales which, as I recall, were aimed at being widely accepted among a test group...when I gave it the criteria of no notes more than 10 cents off my favorite dyads of 6/5 and greater value. So I think that sort of thing can be of some serious use...loading artificial intelligence guided by human criteria/aesthetic tastes.

-Michael

> A few ideas:
> 1) A dyad/chord tester.  Plays many well-known micro-tonal chords or lets you create your own and compare/rate how they sound to you and lets you load samples of different instruments to test how different timbres feel with such chords.

Already made that, if I could just get my website back up. It reads in
as input a scala file and then plays it, except I extended the SCL
format to let you play chords as well

> 2)  A scale generator.  Enter things like dyads or chord you like (or select from a list of what you entered in #1), select a maximum number of tones for the scale, select a maximum allowed number of cents deviation from your chords/dyads...and the scale generator will make a few scales with as many chords/dyads you like as possible and then tell you
>    A) If the scale is near a certain MOS, TET, regular temperament, or other type of pre-existing scale
>    B) Where the chords/dyads you like appear in the scale

That would be neat, I'd have to wrap my head around the math though.

-Mike

Me> 1) A dyad/chord tester. Plays many well-known micro-tonal chords
or lets you create your own and compare/rate how they sound to you and
lets you load samples of different instruments to test how different
timbres feel with such chords.

Mike B>"Already made that, if I could just get my website back up. It reads in
as input a scala file and then plays it, except I extended the SCL format to let you play chords as well"
Very nice, will have to check it out...just let me know if/when you get your web site back up. BTW...does it let you save your favorite chords or dyads as a list (or, if not, can it)?