Spiral Stairs

A short 22 edo piece with the intention to use harmonies further away from 12 tet. The two version are quite different in emotional impact to me. Both together are about 3 megs.

solo Pianoteq version

http://micro.soonlabel.com/22-ET/mini-piano-22-20100322-study-in-22.mp3

Electro version

http://micro.soonlabel.com/22-ET/mini-piano-22-20100322-study-in-22-electro.mp3

Both are short and small in size - I'd be interested in hearing comments.

--- "christopherv" <chrisvaisvil@...> wrote:
>
> A short 22 edo piece with the intention to use harmonies further
> away from 12 tet. The two version are quite different in emotional
> impact to me. Both together are about 3 megs.
>
> solo Pianoteq version
>
> http://micro.soonlabel.com/22-ET/mini-piano-22-20100322-study-
> in-22.mp3

Nice! I like the repeating chromatic motif, and how it sweetens
up at the end.

> Electro version
>
> http://micro.soonlabel.com/22-ET/mini-piano-22-20100322-study-in-
> 22-electro.mp3

Doesn't fit together for me. Percussion track sounds canned
and cheap. Sorry!

-Carl

HI Carl,

Thanks for the listen and comment. The drums were compressed and distorted
on purpose.
If it would be interesting to you I could post the electronic version with
the drums au natural.

I find the electro version flows better than the plodding piano version.

Thanks,

Chris

On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Carl Lumma <carl@...> wrote:

>
>
> --- "christopherv" <chrisvaisvil@...> wrote:
> >
> > A short 22 edo piece with the intention to use harmonies further
> > away from 12 tet. The two version are quite different in emotional
> > impact to me. Both together are about 3 megs.
> >
> > solo Pianoteq version
> >
> > http://micro.soonlabel.com/22-ET/mini-piano-22-20100322-study-
> > in-22.mp3
>
> Nice! I like the repeating chromatic motif, and how it sweetens
> up at the end.
>
>
> > Electro version
> >
> > http://micro.soonlabel.com/22-ET/mini-piano-22-20100322-study-in-
> > 22-electro.mp3
>
> Doesn't fit together for me. Percussion track sounds canned
> and cheap. Sorry!
>
> -Carl
>
>
>

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Carl,
>
> Thanks for the listen and comment. The drums were compressed and
> distorted on purpose. If it would be interesting to you I could
> post the electronic version with the drums au natural.

Thanks, but I wasn't referring to any distortion, just that it
sounded like a generic, overplayed drum loop that didn't fit the
rest of the piece. Geez, I'm merciless! -Carl

Well, you are right - sort of.

4 loops were harmed. The exercise really was harmonic in nature. I wanted
to go beyond psuedo 12 tet in 22 as was done mostly in my last 22 edo piece
- adding percussion and slapping in Albino (with a few minor note changes)
was done to toss up on a 12 edo site to see what happens. Electronics often
seem to blur people's perception of pitch.

On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Carl Lumma <carl@...> wrote:

>
>
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com <tuning%40yahoogroups.com>, Chris Vaisvil
> <chrisvaisvil@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Carl,
>
> >
> > Thanks for the listen and comment. The drums were compressed and
> > distorted on purpose. If it would be interesting to you I could
> > post the electronic version with the drums au natural.
>
> Thanks, but I wasn't referring to any distortion, just that it
> sounded like a generic, overplayed drum loop that didn't fit the
> rest of the piece. Geez, I'm merciless! -Carl
>
>
>

The second piece is riveting. The first, not to my liking though.

Oz.

✩ ✩ ✩
www.ozanyarman.com

On Mar 22, 2010, at 5:40 PM, christopherv wrote:

> A short 22 edo piece with the intention to use harmonies further
> away from 12 tet. The two version are quite different in emotional
> impact to me. Both together are about 3 megs.
>
> solo Pianoteq version
>
> http://micro.soonlabel.com/22-ET/mini-piano-22-20100322-study-
> in-22.mp3
>
> Electro version
>
> http://micro.soonlabel.com/22-ET/mini-piano-22-20100322-study-in-22-electro.mp3
>
> Both are short and small in size - I'd be interested in hearing
> comments.
>

Thanks - I kind of feel the same way. It would be needed to be expanded
though.

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com>wrote:

>
>
> The second piece is riveting. The first, not to my liking though.
>
> Oz.
>
> ✩ ✩ ✩
> www.ozanyarman.com
>
>
> On Mar 22, 2010, at 5:40 PM, christopherv wrote:
>
> > A short 22 edo piece with the intention to use harmonies further
> > away from 12 tet. The two version are quite different in emotional
> > impact to me. Both together are about 3 megs.
> >
> > solo Pianoteq version
> >
> > http://micro.soonlabel.com/22-ET/mini-piano-22-20100322-study-
> > in-22.mp3
> >
> > Electro version
> >
> >
> http://micro.soonlabel.com/22-ET/mini-piano-22-20100322-study-in-22-electro.mp3
> >
> > Both are short and small in size - I'd be interested in hearing
> > comments.
> >
>
>
>

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks - I kind of feel the same way. It would be needed to be
> expanded though.
>

I guess I'm in the minority! I listened a few more times to the
first, and decided I really like it. A second time to the second,
and decided I really don't. -Carl

My impression is that the first is too plodding - somehow adding a drum beat
seemed to solve that impression in the 2nd.
BUT the harmonies are much clearer in the first.

I need to develop my writing skills - or push further into live performance
of part writing like I did for the Chicago 60x60 submission. My concern
there is my timing difficulties making the final piece too "loose" - sloppy
sounding really.

Chris

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Carl Lumma <carl@...> wrote:

>
>
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com <tuning%40yahoogroups.com>, Chris Vaisvil
> <chrisvaisvil@...> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks - I kind of feel the same way. It would be needed to be
> > expanded though.
> >
>
> I guess I'm in the minority! I listened a few more times to the
> first, and decided I really like it. A second time to the second,
> and decided I really don't. -Carl
>
>
>
>

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...> wrote:
>
> My impression is that the first is too plodding - somehow adding
> a drum beat seemed to solve that impression in the 2nd.
> BUT the harmonies are much clearer in the first.
>
> I need to develop my writing skills - or push further into
> live performance of part writing like I did for the
> Chicago 60x60 submission. My concern there is my timing
> difficulties making the final piece too "loose" - sloppy
> sounding really.

Have you tried playing along with drum loops?

-Carl

yes, the entry was just that

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Carl Lumma <carl@...> wrote:

>
>
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com <tuning%40yahoogroups.com>, Chris Vaisvil
> <chrisvaisvil@...> wrote:
> >
> > My impression is that the first is too plodding - somehow adding
> > a drum beat seemed to solve that impression in the 2nd.
> > BUT the harmonies are much clearer in the first.
> >
> > I need to develop my writing skills - or push further into
> > live performance of part writing like I did for the
> > Chicago 60x60 submission. My concern there is my timing
> > difficulties making the final piece too "loose" - sloppy
> > sounding really.
>
> Have you tried playing along with drum loops?
>
> -Carl
>
>
>