Yahoo Tuning Groups Ultimate Backup tuning A candidate for Eurovision in 12-tone subset of Yarman-36

Sounding good Oz;

Sufficiently Euro to avoid scaring away the Eurocentrics, yet with a
touch of "Eastern" promise.

Unfortunately Eurovision has become more and more "visual" as it has
progressed.

I am glad to hear that you are getting into and enjoying Logic.

Turkey has a good recent history of success at Eurovision.

On 4 Sep 2009, at 07:57, Ozan Yarman wrote:

> Dear members,
>
> I am slowly returning back to composing at long last. Here is a link
> to a yet unfinished attempt on my part to enter the Eurovision song
> contest:
>
> http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/supertrance.mp3
>
> The tuning of this trance song is set to the 12-tone Temperament
> Ordinaire subset of Yarman-36 with the diapason at 438.4 Hz.
>
> The piece is still very fresh... baked in Logic Pro 8 just today.
>
> Please share your thoughts. Do you like it?
>
> Cordially,
> Oz.
>
> ✩ ✩ ✩
> www.ozanyarman.com
>
>

Charles Lucy
lucy@...

- Promoting global harmony through LucyTuning -

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🔗Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...>

Thank you Charles,

You know that Turkiye is very much anticipating recognition in even
the Eurovision. Having tasted the glory of first place with Sertab
Erener, Turkiye's rising starlets are hungry for the chance at the
grand prize once again.

I thought I could get one of these starlets to use my music. The music
is progressing nicely. All that remains is lyrics with great feeling.

Oz.

✩ ✩ ✩
www.ozanyarman.com

On Sep 4, 2009, at 11:16 AM, Charles Lucy wrote:

>
>
> Sounding good Oz;
>
> Sufficiently Euro to avoid scaring away the Eurocentrics, yet with a > touch of "Eastern" promise.
>
> Unfortunately Eurovision has become more and more "visual" as it has
> progressed.
>
> I am glad to hear that you are getting into and enjoying Logic.
>
> Turkey has a good recent history of success at Eurovision.
>
>
> On 4 Sep 2009, at 07:57, Ozan Yarman wrote:
>
>> Dear members,
>>
>> I am slowly returning back to composing at long last. Here is a link
>> to a yet unfinished attempt on my part to enter the Eurovision song
>> contest:
>>
>> http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/supertrance.mp3
>>
>> The tuning of this trance song is set to the 12-tone Temperament
>> Ordinaire subset of Yarman-36 with the diapason at 438.4 Hz.
>>
>> The piece is still very fresh... baked in Logic Pro 8 just today.
>>
>> Please share your thoughts. Do you like it?
>>
>> Cordially,
>> Oz.
>>
>> ✩ ✩ ✩
>> www.ozanyarman.com
>>
>
> Charles Lucy
> lucy@lucytune.com
>
> - Promoting global harmony through LucyTuning -
>
> for information on LucyTuning go to:
> http://www.lucytune.com
>
> For LucyTuned Lullabies go to:
> http://www.lullabies.co.uk
>
>
>
>
>
>

🔗Aaron Johnson <aaron@...>

Ozan,

Glad to hear you are composing again. I enjoyed this a lot! Very well
produced with interesting timbres and a rich sound-field. Good
headphone listening---that's how I do most of my listening!

Good luck with the contest.

I was also enjoying the fine qunan pieces on your site....

Best,
AKJ

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:57 AM, Ozan Yarman<ozanyarman@...> wrote:
> Dear members,
>
> I am slowly returning back to composing at long last. Here is a link
> to a yet unfinished attempt on my part to enter the Eurovision song
> contest:
>
> http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/supertrance.mp3
>
> The tuning of this trance song is set to the 12-tone Temperament
> Ordinaire subset of Yarman-36 with the diapason at 438.4 Hz.
>
> The piece is still very fresh... baked in Logic Pro 8 just today.
>
> Please share your thoughts. Do you like it?
>
> Cordially,
> Oz.
>
> ✩ ✩ ✩
> www.ozanyarman.com
>
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>
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🔗Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...>

Dear Aaron, thank you for your kind words. It is needless to mention
that I also appreciate your music very much.

I have finished and digitally mastered the Super-Trance song. Here it
is:

http://www.ozanyarman.com/files/music/supertrance_finalmix.mp3

To avoid clipping, I spent a lot of time fixing channel volumes and
calibrating the master gain. Is the volume of the song loud enough?

Cordially,
Oz.

✩ ✩ ✩
www.ozanyarman.com

On Sep 5, 2009, at 7:07 AM, Aaron Johnson wrote:

> Ozan,
>
> Glad to hear you are composing again. I enjoyed this a lot! Very well
> produced with interesting timbres and a rich sound-field. Good
> headphone listening---that's how I do most of my listening!
>
> Good luck with the contest.
>
> I was also enjoying the fine qunan pieces on your site....
>
> Best,
> AKJ
>
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:57 AM, Ozan
> Yarman<ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com> wrote:
>> Dear members,
>>
>> I am slowly returning back to composing at long last. Here is a link
>> to a yet unfinished attempt on my part to enter the Eurovision song
>> contest:
>>
>> http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/supertrance.mp3
>>
>> The tuning of this trance song is set to the 12-tone Temperament
>> Ordinaire subset of Yarman-36 with the diapason at 438.4 Hz.
>>
>> The piece is still very fresh... baked in Logic Pro 8 just today.
>>
>> Please share your thoughts. Do you like it?
>>
>> Cordially,
>> Oz.
>>
>> ✩ ✩ ✩
>> www.ozanyarman.com
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
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>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Aaron Krister Johnson
> http://www.akjmusic.com
> http://www.untwelve.org
>
>
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🔗Charles Lucy <lucy@...>

Sounds good, even was praised by my supercritical Brit/US 17 year-old
son.

The volume is fine.

If you are doubtful you could always normalise it.

I found that I could get about another 7dB by normalising the mp3
using Fission from Rogue Ameoba.

On 6 Sep 2009, at 01:26, Ozan Yarman wrote:

> Dear Aaron, thank you for your kind words. It is needless to mention
> that I also appreciate your music very much.
>
> I have finished and digitally mastered the Super-Trance song. Here it
> is:
>
> http://www.ozanyarman.com/files/music/supertrance_finalmix.mp3
>
> To avoid clipping, I spent a lot of time fixing channel volumes and
> calibrating the master gain. Is the volume of the song loud enough?
>
> Cordially,
> Oz.
>
> ✩ ✩ ✩
> www.ozanyarman.com
>
> On Sep 5, 2009, at 7:07 AM, Aaron Johnson wrote:
>
> > Ozan,
> >
> > Glad to hear you are composing again. I enjoyed this a lot! Very
> well
> > produced with interesting timbres and a rich sound-field. Good
> > headphone listening---that's how I do most of my listening!
> >
> > Good luck with the contest.
> >
> > I was also enjoying the fine qunan pieces on your site....
> >
> > Best,
> > AKJ
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:57 AM, Ozan
> > Yarman<ozanyarman@...> wrote:
> >> Dear members,
> >>
> >> I am slowly returning back to composing at long last. Here is a
> link
> >> to a yet unfinished attempt on my part to enter the Eurovision song
> >> contest:
> >>
> >> http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/supertrance.mp3
> >>
> >> The tuning of this trance song is set to the 12-tone Temperament
> >> Ordinaire subset of Yarman-36 with the diapason at 438.4 Hz.
> >>
> >> The piece is still very fresh... baked in Logic Pro 8 just today.
> >>
> >> Please share your thoughts. Do you like it?
> >>
> >> Cordially,
> >> Oz.
> >>
> >> ✩ ✩ ✩
> >> www.ozanyarman.com
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------
> >>
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> one
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Aaron Krister Johnson
> > http://www.akjmusic.com
> > http://www.untwelve.org
> >
> >
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Charles Lucy
lucy@...

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For LucyTuned Lullabies go to:
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🔗Danny Wier <dawiertx@...>

🔗Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...>

Oz,

The melodies/harmonies are great - however the percussion, in my humble
opinion, could use more liveliness. My impression is of clockwork and not
human play in the 2nd half.

With respect,

Chris

On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...>wrote:

>
>
> Dear Aaron, thank you for your kind words. It is needless to mention
> that I also appreciate your music very much.
>
> I have finished and digitally mastered the Super-Trance song. Here it
> is:
>
> http://www.ozanyarman.com/files/music/supertrance_finalmix.mp3
>
> To avoid clipping, I spent a lot of time fixing channel volumes and
> calibrating the master gain. Is the volume of the song loud enough?
>
> Cordially,
> Oz.
>
> ✩ ✩ ✩
> www.ozanyarman.com
>
> On Sep 5, 2009, at 7:07 AM, Aaron Johnson wrote:
>
> > Ozan,
> >
> > Glad to hear you are composing again. I enjoyed this a lot! Very well
> > produced with interesting timbres and a rich sound-field. Good
> > headphone listening---that's how I do most of my listening!
> >
> > Good luck with the contest.
> >
> > I was also enjoying the fine qunan pieces on your site....
> >
> > Best,
> > AKJ
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:57 AM, Ozan
> > Yarman<ozanyarman@... <ozanyarman%40ozanyarman.com>> wrote:
> >> Dear members,
> >>
> >> I am slowly returning back to composing at long last. Here is a link
> >> to a yet unfinished attempt on my part to enter the Eurovision song
> >> contest:
> >>
> >> http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/supertrance.mp3
> >>
> >> The tuning of this trance song is set to the 12-tone Temperament
> >> Ordinaire subset of Yarman-36 with the diapason at 438.4 Hz.
> >>
> >> The piece is still very fresh... baked in Logic Pro 8 just today.
> >>
> >> Please share your thoughts. Do you like it?
> >>
> >> Cordially,
> >> Oz.
> >>
> >> ✩ ✩ ✩
> >> www.ozanyarman.com
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Aaron Krister Johnson
> > http://www.akjmusic.com
> > http://www.untwelve.org
> >
> >
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🔗Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...>

Dear brother Danny, thank you for your praise. Glad you enjoyed the
piece.

You know that I applaud your wonderful great orchestral "sountrack
project" and like the piece you last gave the link to very much. There
are more gems in your web corner where that one came from.

Keep up the good work as always!
Oz.

✩ ✩ ✩
www.ozanyarman.com

On Sep 6, 2009, at 3:47 AM, Danny Wier wrote:

> Hey Ozan,
>
> This is a side of you I haven't heard yet! I'm not quite as familar
> with
> trance (or Eurovision), but this is impressive.
>
> And welcome back to composing.
>
> ~D.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ozan Yarman" <ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com>
> To: "Tuning List" <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, 04 September, 2009 01:57
> Subject: [tuning] A candidate for Eurovision in 12-tone subset of
> Yarman-36
>
>
> Dear members,
>
> I am slowly returning back to composing at long last. Here is a link
> to a yet unfinished attempt on my part to enter the Eurovision song
> contest:
>
> http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/supertrance.mp3
>
> The tuning of this trance song is set to the 12-tone Temperament
> Ordinaire subset of Yarman-36 with the diapason at 438.4 Hz.
>
> The piece is still very fresh... baked in Logic Pro 8 just today.
>
> Please share your thoughts. Do you like it?
>
> Cordially,
> Oz.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
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🔗Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...>

Dear Charles, thanks!

I don't know how I can increase the volume without causing audio
clipping. Though I discovered that that does not always result in
distortion, or at least it is undetectable. I'm somewhat inexperienced
with this digital mastering ordeal. I don't even know yet what
compressor and limiter exactly accomplishes unless I hear the results.

What is this Fission you talk about? Is it Mac related?

I think I will try a Lucytuned version of supertrance when I can get
my hands to it.

Oz.

✩ ✩ ✩
www.ozanyarman.com

On Sep 6, 2009, at 3:46 AM, Charles Lucy wrote:

>
>
> Sounds good, even was praised by my supercritical Brit/US 17 year-
> old son.
>
> The volume is fine.
>
> If you are doubtful you could always normalise it.
>
> I found that I could get about another 7dB by normalising the mp3
> using Fission from Rogue Ameoba.
>
>
>
>
> On 6 Sep 2009, at 01:26, Ozan Yarman wrote:
>
>> Dear Aaron, thank you for your kind words. It is needless to mention
>> that I also appreciate your music very much.
>>
>> I have finished and digitally mastered the Super-Trance song. Here it
>> is:
>>
>> http://www.ozanyarman.com/files/music/supertrance_finalmix.mp3
>>
>> To avoid clipping, I spent a lot of time fixing channel volumes and
>> calibrating the master gain. Is the volume of the song loud enough?
>>
>> Cordially,
>> Oz.
>>
>> ✩ ✩ ✩
>> www.ozanyarman.com
>>
>> On Sep 5, 2009, at 7:07 AM, Aaron Johnson wrote:
>>
>> > Ozan,
>> >
>> > Glad to hear you are composing again. I enjoyed this a lot! Very
>> well
>> > produced with interesting timbres and a rich sound-field. Good
>> > headphone listening---that's how I do most of my listening!
>> >
>> > Good luck with the contest.
>> >
>> > I was also enjoying the fine qunan pieces on your site....
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > AKJ
>> >
>> > On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:57 AM, Ozan
>> > Yarman<ozanyarman@...> wrote:
>> >> Dear members,
>> >>
>> >> I am slowly returning back to composing at long last. Here is a
>> link
>> >> to a yet unfinished attempt on my part to enter the Eurovision
>> song
>> >> contest:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/supertrance.mp3
>> >>
>> >> The tuning of this trance song is set to the 12-tone Temperament
>> >> Ordinaire subset of Yarman-36 with the diapason at 438.4 Hz.
>> >>
>> >> The piece is still very fresh... baked in Logic Pro 8 just today.
>> >>
>> >> Please share your thoughts. Do you like it?
>> >>
>> >> Cordially,
>> >> Oz.
>> >>
>> >> ✩ ✩ ✩
>> >> www.ozanyarman.com
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> You can configure your subscription by sending an empty email to
>> one
>> >> of these addresses (from the address at which you receive the
>> list):
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>> emails.
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>> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Aaron Krister Johnson
>> > http://www.akjmusic.com
>> > http://www.untwelve.org
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------
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>>
>
> Charles Lucy
> lucy@...
>
> - Promoting global harmony through LucyTuning -
>
> for information on LucyTuning go to:
> http://www.lucytune.com
>
> For LucyTuned Lullabies go to:
> http://www.lullabies.co.uk
>
>
>
>
>
>

🔗Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...>

Thanks for the comments Chris! In Logic, I am only capable of sticking
in loops from the sound library as yet. I am not the person to meddle
with the art of pro-drumming any time soon. In case there is a chance
of real performance, maybe the drum parts can be recorded live by
those who know best.

The funky drum you hear was a set of loops called "Trip Hop Shaman Beat". Catchy and rather Turkish too.

I'll try to improve the drums even with my limited abilities. I'll see
what I can do.

Cordially,
Oz.

✩ ✩ ✩
www.ozanyarman.com

On Sep 6, 2009, at 6:38 PM, Chris Vaisvil wrote:

>
>
> Oz,
>
> The melodies/harmonies are great - however the percussion, in my
> humble opinion, could use more liveliness. My impression is of
> clockwork and not human play in the 2nd half.
>
> With respect,
>
> Chris
>
> On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Ozan Yarman
> <ozanyarman@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Aaron, thank you for your kind words. It is needless to mention
> that I also appreciate your music very much.
>
> I have finished and digitally mastered the Super-Trance song. Here it
> is:
>
> http://www.ozanyarman.com/files/music/supertrance_finalmix.mp3
>
> To avoid clipping, I spent a lot of time fixing channel volumes and
> calibrating the master gain. Is the volume of the song loud enough?
>
> Cordially,
> Oz.
>
> ✩ ✩ ✩
> www.ozanyarman.com
>
> On Sep 5, 2009, at 7:07 AM, Aaron Johnson wrote:
>
> > Ozan,
> >
> > Glad to hear you are composing again. I enjoyed this a lot! Very
> well
> > produced with interesting timbres and a rich sound-field. Good
> > headphone listening---that's how I do most of my listening!
> >
> > Good luck with the contest.
> >
> > I was also enjoying the fine qunan pieces on your site....
> >
> > Best,
> > AKJ
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:57 AM, Ozan
> > Yarman<ozanyarman@...> wrote:
> >> Dear members,
> >>
> >> I am slowly returning back to composing at long last. Here is a
> link
> >> to a yet unfinished attempt on my part to enter the Eurovision song
> >> contest:
> >>
> >> http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/supertrance.mp3
> >>
> >> The tuning of this trance song is set to the 12-tone Temperament
> >> Ordinaire subset of Yarman-36 with the diapason at 438.4 Hz.
> >>
> >> The piece is still very fresh... baked in Logic Pro 8 just today.
> >>
> >> Please share your thoughts. Do you like it?
> >>
> >> Cordially,
> >> Oz.
> >>
> >> ✩ ✩ ✩
> >> www.ozanyarman.com
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------
> >>
> >> You can configure your subscription by sending an empty email to
> one
> >> of these addresses (from the address at which you receive the
> list):
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🔗Charles Lucy <lucy@...>

I suspect that you need to RTFM. There are more than 1000 pages in the
Logic manuals, but if you search via the pdf files you should be able
to find what you need.

Fission is a Mac application which will quickly load, play and enable
you to edit mp3 and other audio file formats.

You can download it from here:

http://www.rogueamoeba.com/fission/

You could have set the normalisation when you bounced your final mix;
by normalising the track you are increasing the amplitude of all the
audio. The amount that you can increase the amplitude is determined by
the maximum amplitude value that is found in the track. Normalisation
allows you to increase the volume by a set amount so that the loudest
part of the track is at 100% or less of the max volume permissible
without distortion or overdriving the audio file.

On 6 Sep 2009, at 23:35, Ozan Yarman wrote:

>
> Dear Charles, thanks!
>
> I don't know how I can increase the volume without causing audio
> clipping. Though I discovered that that does not always result in> distortion, or at least it is undetectable. I'm somewhat
> inexperienced with this digital mastering ordeal. I don't even know
> yet what compressor and limiter exactly accomplishes unless I hear
> the results.
>
> What is this Fission you talk about? Is it Mac related?
>
> I think I will try a Lucytuned version of supertrance when I can get
> my hands to it.
>
> Oz.
>
> ✩ ✩ ✩
> www.ozanyarman.com
>
> On Sep 6, 2009, at 3:46 AM, Charles Lucy wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Sounds good, even was praised by my supercritical Brit/US 17 year-
>> old son.
>>
>> The volume is fine.
>>
>> If you are doubtful you could always normalise it.
>>
>> I found that I could get about another 7dB by normalising the mp3
>> using Fission from Rogue Ameoba.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6 Sep 2009, at 01:26, Ozan Yarman wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Aaron, thank you for your kind words. It is needless to mention
>>> that I also appreciate your music very much.
>>>
>>> I have finished and digitally mastered the Super-Trance song. Here
>>> it
>>> is:
>>>
>>> http://www.ozanyarman.com/files/music/supertrance_finalmix.mp3
>>>
>>> To avoid clipping, I spent a lot of time fixing channel volumes and
>>> calibrating the master gain. Is the volume of the song loud enough?
>>>
>>> Cordially,
>>> Oz.
>>>
>>> ✩ ✩ ✩
>>> www.ozanyarman.com
>>>
>>> On Sep 5, 2009, at 7:07 AM, Aaron Johnson wrote:
>>>
>>> > Ozan,
>>> >
>>> > Glad to hear you are composing again. I enjoyed this a lot! Very
>>> well
>>> > produced with interesting timbres and a rich sound-field. Good
>>> > headphone listening---that's how I do most of my listening!
>>> >
>>> > Good luck with the contest.
>>> >
>>> > I was also enjoying the fine qunan pieces on your site....
>>> >
>>> > Best,
>>> > AKJ
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:57 AM, Ozan
>>> > Yarman<ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com> wrote:
>>> >> Dear members,
>>> >>
>>> >> I am slowly returning back to composing at long last. Here is a
>>> link
>>> >> to a yet unfinished attempt on my part to enter the Eurovision
>>> song
>>> >> contest:
>>> >>
>>> >> http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/supertrance.mp3
>>> >>
>>> >> The tuning of this trance song is set to the 12-tone Temperament
>>> >> Ordinaire subset of Yarman-36 with the diapason at 438.4 Hz.
>>> >>
>>> >> The piece is still very fresh... baked in Logic Pro 8 just today.
>>> >>
>>> >> Please share your thoughts. Do you like it?
>>> >>
>>> >> Cordially,
>>> >> Oz.
>>> >>
>>> >> ✩ ✩ ✩
>>> >> www.ozanyarman.com
>>> >>
>>> >> ------------------------------------
>>> >>
>>> >> You can configure your subscription by sending an empty email
>>> to one
>>> >> of these addresses (from the address at which you receive the
>>> list):
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>>> >> tuning-digest@yahoogroups.com - set group to send daily digests.
>>> >> tuning-normal@yahoogroups.com - set group to send individual
>>> emails.
>>> >> tuning-help@...m - receive general help information.
>>> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> >
>>> > Aaron Krister Johnson
>>> > http://www.akjmusic.com
>>> > http://www.untwelve.org
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ------------------------------------
>>> >
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>>> one
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>>> emails.
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>>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Charles Lucy
>> lucy@...
>>
>> - Promoting global harmony through LucyTuning -
>>
>> for information on LucyTuning go to:
>> http://www.lucytune.com
>>
>> For LucyTuned Lullabies go to:
>> http://www.lullabies.co.uk
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

Charles Lucy
lucy@...

- Promoting global harmony through LucyTuning -

for information on LucyTuning go to:
http://www.lucytune.com

For LucyTuned Lullabies go to:
http://www.lullabies.co.uk

🔗Chris <chrisvaisvil@...>

Actually I know of a percussionist who might perform for your piece. He has done a lot of authentic Caribbean percussion work and has a large collection of instruments. I can ask if he would be interested in working with you if having American collaborator is not a problem for euro vision.
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-----Original Message-----
From: Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com>

Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 01:38:29
To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [tuning] A candidate for Eurovision in 12-tone subset of Yarman-36

The funky drum you hear was a set of loops called "Trip Hop Shaman
Beat". Catchy and rather Turkish too.

I'll try to improve the drums even with my limited abilities. I'll see
what I can do.

Cordially,
Oz.

✩ ✩ ✩
www.ozanyarman.com

On Sep 6, 2009, at 6:38 PM, Chris Vaisvil wrote:

>
>
> Oz,
>
> The melodies/harmonies are great - however the percussion, in my
> humble opinion, could use more liveliness. My impression is of
> clockwork and not human play in the 2nd half.
>
> With respect,
>
> Chris
>
> On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Ozan Yarman
> <ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Aaron, thank you for your kind words. It is needless to mention
> that I also appreciate your music very much.
>
> I have finished and digitally mastered the Super-Trance song. Here it
> is:
>
> http://www.ozanyarman.com/files/music/supertrance_finalmix.mp3
>
> To avoid clipping, I spent a lot of time fixing channel volumes and
> calibrating the master gain. Is the volume of the song loud enough?
>
> Cordially,
> Oz.
>
> ✩ ✩ ✩
> www.ozanyarman.com
>
> On Sep 5, 2009, at 7:07 AM, Aaron Johnson wrote:
>
> > Ozan,
> >
> > Glad to hear you are composing again. I enjoyed this a lot! Very
> well
> > produced with interesting timbres and a rich sound-field. Good
> > headphone listening---that's how I do most of my listening!
> >
> > Good luck with the contest.
> >
> > I was also enjoying the fine qunan pieces on your site....
> >
> > Best,
> > AKJ
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:57 AM, Ozan
> > Yarman<ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com> wrote:
> >> Dear members,
> >>
> >> I am slowly returning back to composing at long last. Here is a
> link
> >> to a yet unfinished attempt on my part to enter the Eurovision song
> >> contest:
> >>
> >> http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/supertrance.mp3
> >>
> >> The tuning of this trance song is set to the 12-tone Temperament
> >> Ordinaire subset of Yarman-36 with the diapason at 438.4 Hz.
> >>
> >> The piece is still very fresh... baked in Logic Pro 8 just today.
> >>
> >> Please share your thoughts. Do you like it?
> >>
> >> Cordially,
> >> Oz.
> >>
> >> ✩ ✩ ✩
> >> www.ozanyarman.com
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------
> >>
> >> You can configure your subscription by sending an empty email to
> one
> >> of these addresses (from the address at which you receive the
> list):
> >> tuning-subscribe@yahoogroups.com - join the tuning group.
> >> tuning-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com - leave the group.
> >> tuning-nomail@yahoogroups.com - turn off mail from the group.
> >> tuning-digest@yahoogroups.com - set group to send daily digests.
> >> tuning-normal@yahoogroups.com - set group to send individual
> emails.
> >> tuning-help@yahoogroups.com - receive general help information.
> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Aaron Krister Johnson
> > http://www.akjmusic.com
> > http://www.untwelve.org
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > You can configure your subscription by sending an empty email to one
> > of these addresses (from the address at which you receive the list):
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> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

🔗Aaron Johnson <aaron@...>

Ozan,

Normalization scales the volue of your audio and makes the peak volume
of any wave file equal to peak digital volume in bit length per
sample, to avoid clipping distortion, yet achieve maximum volume. On
some software (e.g. Audacity) you can choose some other maximum close
to max but just shy, if you want headroom.

Compression and dynamic range 'squash' the dynamic range so that quiet
passages are louder and loud passages are quieter. These days,
opinions vary about how much compression one should ideally use, IMO,
it's often overused these by producers these days. Part of the
motivation for compression comes from broadcast bandwidth. It can also
be helpful for listening in a car cabin, when there is lots of road
noise-it allows for fewer volume dial adjustments.

AKJ

On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Ozan Yarman<ozanyarman@...> wrote:
>
>
> Dear Charles, thanks!
> I don't know how I can increase the volume without causing audio clipping.
> Though I discovered that that does not always result in distortion, or at
> least it is undetectable. I'm somewhat inexperienced with this digital
> mastering ordeal. I don't even know yet what compressor and limiter exactly
> accomplishes unless I hear the results.
> What is this Fission you talk about? Is it Mac related?
> I think I will try a Lucytuned version of supertrance when I can get my
> hands to it.
> Oz.
> ✩ ✩ ✩
> www.ozanyarman.com
> On Sep 6, 2009, at 3:46 AM, Charles Lucy wrote:
>
>
> Sounds good, even was praised by my supercritical Brit/US 17 year-old son.
> The volume is fine.
> If you are doubtful you could always normalise it.
> I found that I could get about another 7dB by normalising the mp3 using
> Fission from Rogue Ameoba.
>
>
>
> On 6 Sep 2009, at 01:26, Ozan Yarman wrote:
>
> Dear Aaron, thank you for your kind words. It is needless to mention
> that I also appreciate your music very much.
>
> I have finished and digitally mastered the Super-Trance song. Here it
> is:
>
> http://www.ozanyarman.com/files/music/supertrance_finalmix.mp3
>
> To avoid clipping, I spent a lot of time fixing channel volumes and
> calibrating the master gain. Is the volume of the song loud enough?
>
> Cordially,
> Oz.
>
> ✩ ✩ ✩
> www.ozanyarman.com
>
> On Sep 5, 2009, at 7:07 AM, Aaron Johnson wrote:
>
>> Ozan,
>>
>> Glad to hear you are composing again. I enjoyed this a lot! Very well
>> produced with interesting timbres and a rich sound-field. Good
>> headphone listening---that's how I do most of my listening!
>>
>> Good luck with the contest.
>>
>> I was also enjoying the fine qunan pieces on your site....
>>
>> Best,
>> AKJ
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:57 AM, Ozan
>> Yarman<ozanyarman@...> wrote:
>>> Dear members,
>>>
>>> I am slowly returning back to composing at long last. Here is a link
>>> to a yet unfinished attempt on my part to enter the Eurovision song
>>> contest:
>>>
>>> http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/supertrance.mp3
>>>
>>> The tuning of this trance song is set to the 12-tone Temperament
>>> Ordinaire subset of Yarman-36 with the diapason at 438.4 Hz.
>>>
>>> The piece is still very fresh... baked in Logic Pro 8 just today.
>>>
>>> Please share your thoughts. Do you like it?
>>>
>>> Cordially,
>>> Oz.
>>>
>>> ✩ ✩ ✩
>>> www.ozanyarman.com
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------
>>>
>>> You can configure your subscription by sending an empty email to one
>>> of these addresses (from the address at which you receive the list):
>>> tuning-subscribe@yahoogroups.com - join the tuning group.
>>> tuning-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com - leave the group.
>>> tuning-nomail@yahoogroups.com - turn off mail from the group.
>>> tuning-digest@yahoogroups.com - set group to send daily digests.
>>> tuning-normal@yahoogroups.com - set group to send individual emails.
>>> tuning-help@yahoogroups.com - receive general help information.
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Aaron Krister Johnson
>> http://www.akjmusic.com
>> http://www.untwelve.org
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> You can configure your subscription by sending an empty email to one
>> of these addresses (from the address at which you receive the list):
>> tuning-subscribe@yahoogroups.com - join the tuning group.
>> tuning-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com - leave the group.
>> tuning-nomail@yahoogroups.com - turn off mail from the group.
>> tuning-digest@yahoogroups.com - set group to send daily digests.
>> tuning-normal@yahoogroups.com - set group to send individual emails.
>> tuning-help@yahoogroups.com - receive general help information.
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Charles Lucy
> lucy@...
> - Promoting global harmony through LucyTuning -
> for information on LucyTuning go to:
> http://www.lucytune.com
> For LucyTuned Lullabies go to:
> http://www.lullabies.co.uk
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Aaron Krister Johnson
http://www.akjmusic.com
http://www.untwelve.org

🔗Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...>

Dear Chris, much obliged. I will think of your proposition of course.
By the way, I have fortified the percussion, made some changes here
and there, improved the ending, and normalized the audio file. It's a
top-notch recording now. Maybe you will like it this time?
http://www.ozanyarman.com/files/music/supertrance_finalmix.mp3

Cordially,
Oz.

✩ ✩ ✩
www.ozanyarman.com

On Sep 7, 2009, at 3:02 AM, Chris wrote:

>
>
> Actually I know of a percussionist who might perform for your piece.
> He has done a lot of authentic Caribbean percussion work and has a
> large collection of instruments. I can ask if he would be interested
> in working with you if having American collaborator is not a problem
> for euro vision.
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>
>
> From: Ozan Yarman
> Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 01:38:29 +0300
> To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [tuning] A candidate for Eurovision in 12-tone subset
> of Yarman-36
>
>
> Thanks for the comments Chris! In Logic, I am only capable of
> sticking in loops from the sound library as yet. I am not the person
> to meddle with the art of pro-drumming any time soon. In case there
> is a chance of real performance, maybe the drum parts can be
> recorded live by those who know best.
>
> The funky drum you hear was a set of loops called "Trip Hop Shaman
> Beat". Catchy and rather Turkish too.
>
> I'll try to improve the drums even with my limited abilities. I'll
> see what I can do.
>
> Cordially,
> Oz.
>
> ✩ ✩ ✩
> www.ozanyarman.com
>
> On Sep 6, 2009, at 6:38 PM, Chris Vaisvil wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Oz,
>>
>> The melodies/harmonies are great - however the percussion, in my
>> humble opinion, could use more liveliness. My impression is of
>> clockwork and not human play in the 2nd half.
>>
>> With respect,
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...
>> > wrote:
>>
>> Dear Aaron, thank you for your kind words. It is needless to mention
>> that I also appreciate your music very much.
>>
>> I have finished and digitally mastered the Super-Trance song. Here it
>> is:
>>
>> http://www.ozanyarman.com/files/music/supertrance_finalmix.mp3
>>
>> To avoid clipping, I spent a lot of time fixing channel volumes and
>> calibrating the master gain. Is the volume of the song loud enough?
>>
>> Cordially,
>> Oz.
>>
>> ✩ ✩ ✩
>> www.ozanyarman.com
>>
>> On Sep 5, 2009, at 7:07 AM, Aaron Johnson wrote:
>>
>> > Ozan,
>> >
>> > Glad to hear you are composing again. I enjoyed this a lot! Very
>> well
>> > produced with interesting timbres and a rich sound-field. Good
>> > headphone listening---that's how I do most of my listening!
>> >
>> > Good luck with the contest.
>> >
>> > I was also enjoying the fine qunan pieces on your site....
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > AKJ
>> >
>> > On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:57 AM, Ozan
>> > Yarman<ozanyarman@...> wrote:
>> >> Dear members,
>> >>
>> >> I am slowly returning back to composing at long last. Here is a
>> link
>> >> to a yet unfinished attempt on my part to enter the Eurovision
>> song
>> >> contest:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/supertrance.mp3
>> >>
>> >> The tuning of this trance song is set to the 12-tone Temperament
>> >> Ordinaire subset of Yarman-36 with the diapason at 438.4 Hz.
>> >>
>> >> The piece is still very fresh... baked in Logic Pro 8 just today.
>> >>
>> >> Please share your thoughts. Do you like it?
>> >>
>> >> Cordially,
>> >> Oz.
>> >>
>> >> ✩ ✩ ✩
>> >> www.ozanyarman.com
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> You can configure your subscription by sending an empty email to
>> one
>> >> of these addresses (from the address at which you receive the
>> list):
>> >> tuning-subscribe@yahoogroups.com - join the tuning group.
>> >> tuning-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com - leave the group.
>> >> tuning-nomail@yahoogroups.com - turn off mail from the group.
>> >> tuning-digest@yahoogroups.com - set group to send daily digests.
>> >> tuning-normal@yahoogroups.com - set group to send individual
>> emails.
>> >> tuning-help@...m - receive general help information.
>> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Aaron Krister Johnson
>> > http://www.akjmusic.com
>> > http://www.untwelve.org
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------
>> >
>> > You can configure your subscription by sending an empty email to
>> one
>> > of these addresses (from the address at which you receive the
>> list):
>> > tuning-subscribe@yahoogroups.com - join the tuning group.
>> > tuning-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com - leave the group.
>> > tuning-nomail@yahoogroups.com - turn off mail from the group.
>> > tuning-digest@yahoogroups.com - set group to send daily digests.
>> > tuning-normal@yahoogroups.com - set group to send individual
>> emails.
>> > tuning-help@yahoogroups.com - receive general help information.
>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>

🔗Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...>

Dear Aaron, thanks for the info!

Cordially,
Oz.

✩ ✩ ✩
www.ozanyarman.com

On Sep 7, 2009, at 3:14 AM, Aaron Johnson wrote:

> Ozan,
>
> Normalization scales the volue of your audio and makes the peak volume
> of any wave file equal to peak digital volume in bit length per
> sample, to avoid clipping distortion, yet achieve maximum volume. On
> some software (e.g. Audacity) you can choose some other maximum close
> to max but just shy, if you want headroom.
>
> Compression and dynamic range 'squash' the dynamic range so that quiet
> passages are louder and loud passages are quieter. These days,
> opinions vary about how much compression one should ideally use, IMO,
> it's often overused these by producers these days. Part of the
> motivation for compression comes from broadcast bandwidth. It can also
> be helpful for listening in a car cabin, when there is lots of road
> noise-it allows for fewer volume dial adjustments.
>
> AKJ
>
> On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Ozan
> Yarman<ozanyarman@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Dear Charles, thanks!
>> I don't know how I can increase the volume without causing audio
>> clipping.
>> Though I discovered that that does not always result in distortion,
>> or at
>> least it is undetectable. I'm somewhat inexperienced with this
>> digital
>> mastering ordeal. I don't even know yet what compressor and limiter
>> exactly
>> accomplishes unless I hear the results.
>> What is this Fission you talk about? Is it Mac related?
>> I think I will try a Lucytuned version of supertrance when I can
>> get my
>> hands to it.
>> Oz.
>> ✩ ✩ ✩
>> www.ozanyarman.com
>> On Sep 6, 2009, at 3:46 AM, Charles Lucy wrote:
>>
>>
>> Sounds good, even was praised by my supercritical Brit/US 17 year-
>> old son.
>> The volume is fine.
>> If you are doubtful you could always normalise it.
>> I found that I could get about another 7dB by normalising the mp3
>> using
>> Fission from Rogue Ameoba.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6 Sep 2009, at 01:26, Ozan Yarman wrote:
>>
>> Dear Aaron, thank you for your kind words. It is needless to mention
>> that I also appreciate your music very much.
>>
>> I have finished and digitally mastered the Super-Trance song. Here it
>> is:
>>
>> http://www.ozanyarman.com/files/music/supertrance_finalmix.mp3
>>
>> To avoid clipping, I spent a lot of time fixing channel volumes and
>> calibrating the master gain. Is the volume of the song loud enough?
>>
>> Cordially,
>> Oz.
>>
>> ✩ ✩ ✩
>> www.ozanyarman.com
>>
>> On Sep 5, 2009, at 7:07 AM, Aaron Johnson wrote:
>>
>>> Ozan,
>>>
>>> Glad to hear you are composing again. I enjoyed this a lot! Very
>>> well
>>> produced with interesting timbres and a rich sound-field. Good
>>> headphone listening---that's how I do most of my listening!
>>>
>>> Good luck with the contest.
>>>
>>> I was also enjoying the fine qunan pieces on your site....
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> AKJ
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:57 AM, Ozan
>>> Yarman<ozanyarman@...> wrote:
>>>> Dear members,
>>>>
>>>> I am slowly returning back to composing at long last. Here is a
>>>> link
>>>> to a yet unfinished attempt on my part to enter the Eurovision song
>>>> contest:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/supertrance.mp3
>>>>
>>>> The tuning of this trance song is set to the 12-tone Temperament
>>>> Ordinaire subset of Yarman-36 with the diapason at 438.4 Hz.
>>>>
>>>> The piece is still very fresh... baked in Logic Pro 8 just today.
>>>>
>>>> Please share your thoughts. Do you like it?
>>>>
>>>> Cordially,
>>>> Oz.
>>>>
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🔗Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@...>

The classic trick used to make something louder without clipping is to
use either a limiter or a "hard" compressor (i.e. one with a high
ratio), as per Aaron's advice. A limiter (sometimes called a
"brickwall" limiter) is actually a compressor with the highest
possible ratio of "Infinity:1". There are probably tons of free AU
limiter plugins out there, if Logic is your DAW of choice. You
probably already have one somewhere.

A quick and dirty way to make your track louder would be to simply
slap one of those brickwall limiter plugins onto your track and boost
the gain of the track before the limiter stage. A lot of
mastering-oriented limiter plugins will have a "pre-gain" knob to do
just this. On the other hand, if you have a more "traditional"
compressor/limiter layout, your approach should be to lower the
threshold to say -10 dB and then increase the output post-limiter gain
by 10 dB to compensate. Feel free to email me offlist if you have any
questions about this process, as it can be kind of a pain at first.

And I like this track! +10 points for the use of the didgeridoo. What
12 note subset did you pick from Yarman-36? It sounded almost like
straight 12-equal at first, but I thought I heard a few differences as
time went on.

-Mike

On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Dear Charles, thanks!
> I don't know how I can increase the volume without causing audio clipping. Though I discovered that that does not always result in distortion, or at least it is undetectable. I'm somewhat inexperienced with this digital mastering ordeal. I don't even know yet what compressor and limiter exactly accomplishes unless I hear the results.
> What is this Fission you talk about? Is it Mac related?
> I think I will try a Lucytuned version of supertrance when I can get my hands to it.
> Oz.
> ✩ ✩ ✩
> www.ozanyarman.com
> On Sep 6, 2009, at 3:46 AM, Charles Lucy wrote:
>
>
> Sounds good, even was praised by my supercritical Brit/US 17 year-old son.
> The volume is fine.
> If you are doubtful you could always normalise it.
> I found that I could get about another 7dB by normalising the mp3 using Fission from Rogue Ameoba.
>
>
>
> On 6 Sep 2009, at 01:26, Ozan Yarman wrote:
>
> Dear Aaron, thank you for your kind words. It is needless to mention
> that I also appreciate your music very much.
>
> I have finished and digitally mastered the Super-Trance song. Here it
> is:
>
> http://www.ozanyarman.com/files/music/supertrance_finalmix.mp3
>
> To avoid clipping, I spent a lot of time fixing channel volumes and
> calibrating the master gain. Is the volume of the song loud enough?
>
> Cordially,
> Oz.
>
> ✩ ✩ ✩
> www.ozanyarman.com
>
> On Sep 5, 2009, at 7:07 AM, Aaron Johnson wrote:
>
> > Ozan,
> >
> > Glad to hear you are composing again. I enjoyed this a lot! Very well
> > produced with interesting timbres and a rich sound-field. Good
> > headphone listening---that's how I do most of my listening!
> >
> > Good luck with the contest.
> >
> > I was also enjoying the fine qunan pieces on your site....
> >
> > Best,
> > AKJ
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:57 AM, Ozan
> > Yarman<ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com> wrote:
> >> Dear members,
> >>
> >> I am slowly returning back to composing at long last. Here is a link
> >> to a yet unfinished attempt on my part to enter the Eurovision song
> >> contest:
> >>
> >> http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/supertrance.mp3
> >>
> >> The tuning of this trance song is set to the 12-tone Temperament
> >> Ordinaire subset of Yarman-36 with the diapason at 438.4 Hz.
> >>
> >> The piece is still very fresh... baked in Logic Pro 8 just today.
> >>
> >> Please share your thoughts. Do you like it?
> >>
> >> Cordially,
> >> Oz.
> >>
> >> ✩ ✩ ✩
> >> www.ozanyarman.com
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
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>
> Charles Lucy
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> - Promoting global harmony through LucyTuning -
> for information on LucyTuning go to:
> http://www.lucytune.com
> For LucyTuned Lullabies go to:
> http://www.lullabies.co.uk
>
>
>
>
>
>

🔗Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...>

Dear Mike,

Thanks for the tips and pointers! I've meddled around with the limiter
and compressor plug-ins until I was satisfied with the crash cymbals
and did another final mix. I'm slowly learning the trick of the trade.

I'm glad you liked the piece. The part you identified as didgeridoo is actually a "Trance Space Bass" loop from the Logic library of Loops.

The 12-tone subset of Yarman-36 is actually a 12-tone Temperament
Ordinaire tuned by listening to the whole beat rates of fifths. It is
tuned thusly:

A= 438.41 Hz

A'-E = -1 (narrow fifth beating once per second)
E-B = -2
B'-F# = -1
F#-c# = +1 (wide fifth beating once per second)
C#-G# = +1
G#'-Eb = 0 (pure fifth)

A-D = -2
D-G' = -1
G-C = -1
c-F = -2
F-Bb' = -1
Bb-Eb = -2

Here are the cent values of Yarman-36, with the subset I chose in bold:

0.000
44.008
79.810
97.641
148.237
182.183
198.747
245.696
281.729
303.638
347.408
381.446
396.078
447.688
483.760
501.356
545.281
579.437
594.119
649.322
683.208
699.744
743.808
779.654
801.683
848.163
882.148
896.757
945.733
981.805
1001.880
1045.743
1079.852
1094.514
1149.643
1185.715
1200.000

The differences between this tuning and 12-tET are minute (max. 6
cents) but significant for me nevertheless.

Cordially,
Oz.

✩ ✩ ✩
www.ozanyarman.com

On Sep 10, 2009, at 9:12 PM, Mike Battaglia wrote:

> The classic trick used to make something louder without clipping is to
> use either a limiter or a "hard" compressor (i.e. one with a high
> ratio), as per Aaron's advice. A limiter (sometimes called a
> "brickwall" limiter) is actually a compressor with the highest
> possible ratio of "Infinity:1". There are probably tons of free AU
> limiter plugins out there, if Logic is your DAW of choice. You
> probably already have one somewhere.
>
> A quick and dirty way to make your track louder would be to simply
> slap one of those brickwall limiter plugins onto your track and boost
> the gain of the track before the limiter stage. A lot of
> mastering-oriented limiter plugins will have a "pre-gain" knob to do
> just this. On the other hand, if you have a more "traditional"
> compressor/limiter layout, your approach should be to lower the
> threshold to say -10 dB and then increase the output post-limiter gain
> by 10 dB to compensate. Feel free to email me offlist if you have any
> questions about this process, as it can be kind of a pain at first.
>
> And I like this track! +10 points for the use of the didgeridoo. What
> 12 note subset did you pick from Yarman-36? It sounded almost like
> straight 12-equal at first, but I thought I heard a few differences as
> time went on.
>
> -Mike
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Ozan Yarman
> <ozanyarman@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Charles, thanks!
>> I don't know how I can increase the volume without causing audio
>> clipping. Though I discovered that that does not always result in
>> distortion, or at least it is undetectable. I'm somewhat
>> inexperienced with this digital mastering ordeal. I don't even know
>> yet what compressor and limiter exactly accomplishes unless I hear
>> the results.
>> What is this Fission you talk about? Is it Mac related?
>> I think I will try a Lucytuned version of supertrance when I can
>> get my hands to it.
>> Oz.
>> ✩ ✩ ✩
>> www.ozanyarman.com
>> On Sep 6, 2009, at 3:46 AM, Charles Lucy wrote:
>>
>>
>> Sounds good, even was praised by my supercritical Brit/US 17 year-
>> old son.
>> The volume is fine.
>> If you are doubtful you could always normalise it.
>> I found that I could get about another 7dB by normalising the mp3>> using Fission from Rogue Ameoba.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6 Sep 2009, at 01:26, Ozan Yarman wrote:
>>
>> Dear Aaron, thank you for your kind words. It is needless to mention
>> that I also appreciate your music very much.
>>
>> I have finished and digitally mastered the Super-Trance song. Here it
>> is:
>>
>> http://www.ozanyarman.com/files/music/supertrance_finalmix.mp3
>>
>> To avoid clipping, I spent a lot of time fixing channel volumes and
>> calibrating the master gain. Is the volume of the song loud enough?
>>
>> Cordially,
>> Oz.
>>
>> ✩ ✩ ✩
>> www.ozanyarman.com
>>
>> On Sep 5, 2009, at 7:07 AM, Aaron Johnson wrote:
>>
>>> Ozan,
>>>
>>> Glad to hear you are composing again. I enjoyed this a lot! Very
>>> well
>>> produced with interesting timbres and a rich sound-field. Good
>>> headphone listening---that's how I do most of my listening!
>>>
>>> Good luck with the contest.
>>>
>>> I was also enjoying the fine qunan pieces on your site....
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> AKJ
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:57 AM, Ozan
>>> Yarman<ozanyarman@...> wrote:
>>>> Dear members,
>>>>
>>>> I am slowly returning back to composing at long last. Here is a
>>>> link
>>>> to a yet unfinished attempt on my part to enter the Eurovision song
>>>> contest:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/supertrance.mp3
>>>>
>>>> The tuning of this trance song is set to the 12-tone Temperament
>>>> Ordinaire subset of Yarman-36 with the diapason at 438.4 Hz.
>>>>
>>>> The piece is still very fresh... baked in Logic Pro 8 just today.
>>>>
>>>> Please share your thoughts. Do you like it?
>>>>
>>>> Cordially,
>>>> Oz.
>>>>
>>>> ✩ ✩ ✩
>>>> www.ozanyarman.com
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> You can configure your subscription by sending an empty email to
>>>> one
>>>> of these addresses (from the address at which you receive the
>>>> list):
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>>>> emails.
>>>> tuning-help@yahoogroups.com - receive general help information.
>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Aaron Krister Johnson
>>> http://www.akjmusic.com
>>> http://www.untwelve.org
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>> Charles Lucy
>> lucy@...
>> - Promoting global harmony through LucyTuning -
>> for information on LucyTuning go to:
>> http://www.lucytune.com
>> For LucyTuned Lullabies go to:
>> http://www.lullabies.co.uk
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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🔗Carl Lumma <carl@...>

🔗Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...>

O Carl, I have updated the mix several times and taken down the old
mix which you mention. While my skills in digital mastering is quite
below average, I did succeed to amplify the beat and pronounce the
harmonies in this one:

http://www.ozanyarman.com/files/music/supertrance_bettermix.mp3

Happy listening!

Oz.

✩ ✩ ✩
www.ozanyarman.com

On Sep 19, 2009, at 9:47 AM, Carl Lumma wrote:

> Oz- Did you take this down? Sorry, I'm just now catching up
> on listening I missed while at the burning man festival. -Carl
>
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Aaron, thank you for your kind words. It is needless to mention
>> that I also appreciate your music very much.
>>
>> I have finished and digitally mastered the Super-Trance song.
>> Here it is:
>>
>> http://www.ozanyarman.com/files/music/supertrance_finalmix.mp3
>>
>> To avoid clipping, I spent a lot of time fixing channel volumes and
>> calibrating the master gain. Is the volume of the song loud enough?
>>
>> Cordially,
>> Oz.
>> www.ozanyarman.com
>
>
>
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🔗Carl Lumma <carl@...>

🔗Charles Lucy <lucy@...>

🔗Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...>

Glad you enjoyed it Carl. The lyrics are the worst part. I haven't
figured out what to do with the middle of the song yet though. Will
keep you posted on possible developments on the national and
international scale.

Oz.

✩ ✩ ✩
www.ozanyarman.com

On Sep 20, 2009, at 12:24 AM, Carl Lumma wrote:

> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...> wrote:
>>
>> O Carl, I have updated the mix several times and taken down the
>> old mix which you mention. While my skills in digital mastering
>> is quite below average, I did succeed to amplify the beat and
>> pronounce the harmonies in this one:
>>
>> http://www.ozanyarman.com/files/music/supertrance_bettermix.mp3
>>
>> Happy listening!
>>
>> Oz.
>
> Thanks Oz! A sweet-sounding piece. As others have said, it's
> great to hear such versatility from you. Too many musicians
> are specialized to a narrow genre.
>
> Please let us know how it fares in the contest!
>
> -Carl
>
>
>
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