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Lasso tuning

🔗Cameron Bobro <misterbobro@...>

3/11/2009 4:19:06 AM

The ficta "leading tone" I did sucks I think, so I tuned it differently and
now I'm happy with the penultimate bit. Also I got carried away trying to
demonstrate to Marcel that you don't need to chop off the sustains, so there
were some tones carrying on comically beyond their measure, and I tidied that
up, so the buildup of tails at 27 seconds that bothered Michael is cleared up.

here:

http://dl.kibla.org/dl.php?filename=1LassoSciFi3.wav

@ Michael-

gonna wait until Marcel comments before I describe the tuning. There isn't
really a single "scale". In a great deal of music, anything from JI to maqamat
to ragas to Erv Wilson's work to the scales of Mt. Meru at anaphoria island, as
well as Western "classical" music, individual scales are really subsets of the
whole shebang.

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Herman Miller <hmiller@...> wrote:
>
> Cameron Bobro wrote:
> > I found, somewhat miraculously, your .scl Scala file. I'll see what I
> > can do about getting your .mid to play something resembling the
> > tuning, but if you'll render an audio file that would clear up
> > everything immediately.
> >
> > In the meantime, here's an even more "sci-fi" version of the Lasso,
> > and in light of your .scl file, I'd be very interested indeed to know
> > what you think of it:
> >
> > http://dl.kibla.org/dl.php?filename=LassoSciFi2.wav
>
> I think this sounds perfectly fine right up to near the end, where I
> hear a lot of beating from the sustain between the notes of the melody
> around 0:33. The next to last chord does sound a bit off, but in context
> it's a dissonance that gets resolved. No sudden leaps of a comma
> anywhere that I can tell.
>

🔗Marcel de Velde <m.develde@...>

3/11/2009 6:33:59 AM

Hi Cameron,

The ficta "leading tone" I did sucks I think, so I tuned it differently and
> now I'm happy with the penultimate bit. Also I got carried away trying to
> demonstrate to Marcel that you don't need to chop off the sustains, so
> there
> were some tones carrying on comically beyond their measure, and I tidied
> that
> up, so the buildup of tails at 27 seconds that bothered Michael is cleared
> up.
>

How do you mean chop off sustains?
I'm not chopping off sustains and there are no rests in this part of the
piece.

here:
>
> http://dl.kibla.org/dl.php?filename=1LassoSciFi3.wav
>

I'm sorry but it sounds very unclear to me, the sound is not very well
suited for carefull listening to the tuning.
Also I don't think you transcribed the notes correctly?
I'm hearing at least one note that's a semitone too low?
But even besides all this it sounds out of tune to me.
But I really wish to suggest you change your sound to audition with as it
seems to me it would be very hard to tune things by ear using this sound.

Marcel

🔗Michael Sheiman <djtrancendance@...>

3/11/2009 7:59:15 AM

---individual scales are really subsets of the
---whole shebang.
    My bad, so the example is composed in the entire tuning at once, rather than just scale subsets of it?  To my ear, it still sounds like it's done in one "key", just different chords within that key. :-P

    BTW, the "tails" dissonance at 27 and around 33 are both cleared up (as you said)...now the whole thing sounds very very natural.  In fact, it sounds clean enough I could run it by several people and they wouldn't think it was micro-tonal at all (IE it sounds "marketable" now, in the same way Erv Wilson's 6-tone MOS scales are).  Nice job! :-)

-Michael

--- On Wed, 3/11/09, Cameron Bobro <misterbobro@...> wrote:

From: Cameron Bobro <misterbobro@...>
Subject: [tuning] Lasso tuning
To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, March 11, 2009, 4:19 AM

The ficta "leading tone" I did sucks I think, so I tuned it differently and

now I'm happy with the penultimate bit. Also I got carried away trying to

demonstrate to Marcel that you don't need to chop off the sustains, so there

were some tones carrying on comically beyond their measure, and I tidied that

up, so the buildup of tails at 27 seconds that bothered Michael is cleared up.

here:

http://dl.kibla. org/dl.php? filename= 1LassoSciFi3. wav

@ Michael-

gonna wait until Marcel comments before I describe the tuning. There isn't

really a single "scale". In a great deal of music, anything from JI to maqamat

to ragas to Erv Wilson's work to the scales of Mt. Meru at anaphoria island, as

well as Western "classical" music, individual scales are really subsets of the

whole shebang.

--- In tuning@yahoogroups. com, Herman Miller <hmiller@... > wrote:

>

> Cameron Bobro wrote:

> > I found, somewhat miraculously, your .scl Scala file. I'll see what I

> > can do about getting your .mid to play something resembling the

> > tuning, but if you'll render an audio file that would clear up

> > everything immediately.

> >

> > In the meantime, here's an even more "sci-fi" version of the Lasso,

> > and in light of your .scl file, I'd be very interested indeed to know

> > what you think of it:

> >

> > http://dl.kibla. org/dl.php? filename= LassoSciFi2. wav

>

> I think this sounds perfectly fine right up to near the end, where I

> hear a lot of beating from the sustain between the notes of the melody

> around 0:33. The next to last chord does sound a bit off, but in context

> it's a dissonance that gets resolved. No sudden leaps of a comma

> anywhere that I can tell.

>