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THANK YOU DARREN, IT WORKS!!

🔗Joseph Pehrson <josephpehrson@compuserve.com>

1/24/2000 6:43:54 PM

Thanks, Darren so very, very, very, very, very, very, very much for the
clarification regarding the procedure for getting Scala to "talk" to the
TX81Z. It works! It is without a doubt one of the most exciting things I
have done with tuning to date... It's really amazing to hear all this
stuff!

It would be terrific if Mr. Op de Coul would have a bit more of this in his
"readme" file, since it really looks like you have to use the "gsplayer,"
which is, of course a crummy little midi play utility that was primarily
for DOS anyway. How simple to make a MIDI tuning dump file and "play" it
with one's "regular" sequencer set-up...

There were a couple little anomalies... I noticed that setting 101 is the
ONLY setting that will work for the TX81Z. 102 which is "supposedly" the
"full keyboard" TX81Z setting doesn't seem to do anything at all... At
least it wasn't creating a midi sysex dump file for me. Also, I noticed
that one should ONLY be in the micro tune edit mode for "full keyboard."
The display on "edit octave" changes too, but when I tried to play
something, my computer blew up. I'm going to stay out of that edit area in
the future...

And yes, as you mentioned, all of these "full keyboard" tunings are
available in "performance mode." That way, it is possible to compose
pieces in a given xenharmonic tuning -- but only 1 alternate "full
keyboard" tuning is available at a time.

As soon as I read from you that most of the tuning takes place over one's
"usual" sequencer going through the sound card, I knew it would work... It
was all this DOS "gsplay" business that confused the mix...

THANKS AGAIN, THIS IS TERRIFIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

🔗Patrick Pagano <ppagano@bellsouth.net>

1/24/2000 11:50:01 PM

J

>
> It would be terrific if Mr. Op de Coul would have a bit more of this in his
> "readme" file, since it really looks like you have to use the "gsplayer,"
> which is, of course a crummy little midi play utility that was primarily
> for DOS anyway. How simple to make a MIDI tuning dump file and "play" it
> with one's "regular" sequencer set-up...
>

I think Mr. Op de Coul did us a favor with gsplayer but yes it is outdated.
When i switched to an SB Live card i could no longer send the tuning right to
the TX81Zs. Also be farwarned that if you send less than twelve not scales or
more you may have to tweak the tx81 back by loading a preset tuning. I was
trying to do lamonte pitches and was only using four notes and found the tx81
was off.
It just dawned on me to try the Cakewalk program and you can tweak the tempo
for speed...Cakewalk will also directly dump SSEYX into the TX81 if you have it
but there are freeware programs like Sendssyex etc...

Have fun
Pat Pagano
SEJIS

🔗manuel.op.de.coul@ezh.nl

1/25/2000 1:46:31 AM

Thanks too to Darren for responding when I was away last week.
Joseph, I will make the explanation in the "readme" file a bit
better. I don't have a TX81Z myself to test it. Anyway Darren's
method works but it's maybe not the quickest way. The setting
101 sends a separate message for each note to be tuned, while
setting 102 creates a full dump for the whole keyboard range that
the TX81Z supports. Other people have had this work too. But
also the tempo in which the byte messages are sent needs to be
slowed down. You can do this with gsplay by editing the command
line in "send.cmd" like this:
spawn gsplay tempo 25 xxx.mid
If it isn't slow enough, try a lower value than 25.
I don't know if the TX81Z needs to be set up differently in advance
to accept the full keyboard dump or not.
If you don't want the whole range to be retuned, you can use the
optional mappings, files with ".kbm" extension. They need to be
made active before sending with the "load/map" command.
If you don't want an ordinary one-by-one note to key mapping,
you also need this command. Success!

Manuel Op de Coul coul@ezh.nl

🔗Darren Burgess <dburgess@acceleration.net>

1/25/2000 9:44:56 AM

Joseph

I am happy to pass it along. Of course I have Swami Pagano to thank, or is
it the other way around?!?!? Enjoy your 'Z!

BTW, I am now working on using Scala Keyboard Maps to map the 8 by 8 matrix
onto the midi note numbers. I will then use the PC keyboard to play the 'Z
and to explore and catalog the harmonic resources and progressions of the
matrix. I found a somewhat buggy cheap shareware sequencer that allows you
to map note on/off messages to the PC keyboard. It is called MIDIKEYZ or
MIDIKEYS and it can be found at www.download.com

Good luck.

Darren Burgess

> From: Joseph Pehrson <josephpehrson@compuserve.com>
>
> Thanks, Darren so very, very, very, very, very, very, very much for the
> clarification regarding the procedure for getting Scala to "talk" to the
> TX81Z. It works! It is without a doubt one of the most exciting things I
> have done with tuning to date... It's really amazing to hear all this
> stuff!