Practical microtuning question...

Has anyone been using the new Native Instruments software? Before I
check it out I'd like to know in the interests of time and
practicality about their scheme of microtuning by scripts. I have the
old Reaktor and it used a really simple kind of tuning file, fine,
but apparently all the NI stuff now has some kind of scripting
language.

Is this going to be a pain? What does a re-tuning script look like?

thanks,

-Cameron Bobro

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Cameron Bobro" <misterbobro@...> wrote:
>
> Has anyone been using the new Native Instruments software? Before
> I check it out I'd like to know in the interests of time and
> practicality about their scheme of microtuning by scripts. I have
> the old Reaktor and it used a really simple kind of tuning file,
> fine, but apparently all the NI stuff now has some kind of
> scripting language.
>
> Is this going to be a pain? What does a re-tuning script look like?
>
> thanks,
>
> -Cameron Bobro

Hi Cameron. I wasn't aware there was a fundamentally new
Reaktor, but it sounds like they're using the same kind of
approach they used for Kontakt. I'm sure you're familiar
with
http://12equalboresme.com

-Carl

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Lumma" <carl@...> wrote:

>
> Hi Cameron. I wasn't aware there was a fundamentally new
> Reaktor, but it sounds like they're using the same kind of
> approach they used for Kontakt. I'm sure you're familiar
> with
> http://12equalboresme.com
>
> -Carl
>

I stopped upgrading Reaktor right before they started improving the
sound v.3 IIRC (higher control rates, interpolation and sr I would
guess, as pcs got faster)- too much money in it already for a grand
total of three or four really usable sounds, from my own CPU-killing
ensembles. By usuable I don't mean necessarily "good" or
"attractive", I mean, doesn't just vanish into mirk in the presence
of acoustic and analog sounds, the classic weak spot of software
synths IME. Perhaps this is because I leave the acoustic and analog
sounds almost completely naked except for a little reverb, for of
course if you process the hell out of them you can make them feeble,
too (then you can slop vaseline and rhinestones over everything and
television kids will think it's "phat").

I love the "bluescreen" concept but the "cgi" has to be thick, or the
flesh actors have to be thinned (check out how they faded the whole
shebang in Sky Captain to make it work, great job but not my bag).

Anyway, yes! Robert Strauss's script generator is fantastic! thanks
for bringing it up. I'd seen it but couldn't make much out in the
funky website, anyway I got it. (Well, our institute got it
technically speaking). And Kontakt doesn't have that annoying and
weak NI plastic sound like it used to (you have to set the
interpolation and rendering settings to the highest). Recently a
number of software instruments are "there" as far as being solid-
sounding, or maybe it happened a couple of years ago and I missed it,
as of I won't even piddle around with a demo much if the instrument
doesn't support microtuning.

This makes for good reading, and if I ever get any spare change, I'm gonna ask Mr. Bobro (and everyone else) which way to go for best microtonal gear.

I particularly like "vanish into murk" and "vaseline and rhinestones"-- this I know and have experienced myself.

On Dec 19, 2008, at 9:35 AM, Cameron Bobro wrote:

> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Lumma" <carl@...> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi Cameron. I wasn't aware there was a fundamentally new
> > Reaktor, but it sounds like they're using the same kind of
> > approach they used for Kontakt. I'm sure you're familiar
> > with
> > http://12equalboresme.com
> >
> > -Carl
> >
>
> I stopped upgrading Reaktor right before they started improving the
> sound v.3 IIRC (higher control rates, interpolation and sr I would
> guess, as pcs got faster)- too much money in it already for a grand
> total of three or four really usable sounds, from my own CPU-killing
> ensembles. By usuable I don't mean necessarily "good" or
> "attractive", I mean, doesn't just vanish into mirk in the presence
> of acoustic and analog sounds, the classic weak spot of software
> synths IME. Perhaps this is because I leave the acoustic and analog
> sounds almost completely naked except for a little reverb, for of
> course if you process the hell out of them you can make them feeble,
> too (then you can slop vaseline and rhinestones over everything and
> television kids will think it's "phat").
>
> I love the "bluescreen" concept but the "cgi" has to be thick, or the
> flesh actors have to be thinned (check out how they faded the whole
> shebang in Sky Captain to make it work, great job but not my bag).
>
> Anyway, yes! Robert Strauss's script generator is fantastic! thanks
> for bringing it up. I'd seen it but couldn't make much out in the
> funky website, anyway I got it. (Well, our institute got it
> technically speaking). And Kontakt doesn't have that annoying and
> weak NI plastic sound like it used to (you have to set the
> interpolation and rendering settings to the highest). Recently a
> number of software instruments are "there" as far as being solid-
> sounding, or maybe it happened a couple of years ago and I missed it,
> as of I won't even piddle around with a demo much if the instrument
> doesn't support microtuning.
>
>
>