To bjosephmex.

Sorry for throwing you to the lions but I have my own ideas about what
is consonant. Carl Lumma and others from this group are very conversant
with the math which is associated with this topic and if you can explain
your ideas to them in a coherent fashion then I am sure that they will
help you to the utmost of their ability.

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "robert thomas martin"
<robertthomasmartin@...> wrote:
>
> Sorry for throwing you to the lions but I have my own ideas about
what
> is consonant. Carl Lumma and others from this group are very
conversant
> with the math which is associated with this topic and if you can
explain
> your ideas to them in a coherent fashion then I am sure that they
will
> help you to the utmost of their ability.
>

Actually, I have all the answers I need. The fact that you posted
this little note to me speaks volumes.

Let's take a look at one of Carl's posts:
"Hi, I've developed a theory of consonance that is
completely unique in all the world, while, mysteriously
being a reinvention of the wheel at the same time. I've
gone ahead and created a members-only mailing list devoted
to my theories, for the benefit of the throngs of people
who have demonstrated interest in it. So come over and
check it out -- I'm not interested in contributing here."

Let me re-state what I have already said. This is a first in print.
I have had advice from two people who knew what they were doing both
in terms of music theory and marketing. Carl and yourself are not
going to be a first by any means. The two also didn't care to read
my material. They both had nothing more to say than to advise me not
to pursue it. No matter how good it is or how relevant it is, no one
will read it, no one will be interested in it at all.

Carl and Robert, I would thank you, really I would have thanked you
from the bottom of my heart if you had neglected my posts
completely. Then I would have had short and sweet evidence of how I
was able to do exactly what I said I did. I re-invented the wheel
and came up with something very simple and very valuable that is not
presently in print. I was able to do it for the specific reason that
nobody cares.

Most good college freshmen could understand my work, no problem.
Yet, they would have a very difficult time with your posts. I would
expect them to respond to my work with, "why don't you show it to an
expert?" The college freshmen wouldn't want to read your posts,
which somehow have been attributed to me. I would be going up
against a double dose of nobody caring about why nobody cares.
Slogging through your responses and trying to make sense out of them
would be significantly more difficult than reading mine.

This brings me back to you Carl and Robert. I will pretend that I am
speaking to you rather than the group, as is so often your practice.
Why did you respond to me at all.

For the benefit of the people who have contacted me off line. Thank
you for the material you sent me. I find it interesting, though I
can't say that I have found anything that is correct and yet
conflicts with my own materials. I understand why you have contacted
me off line. I can't get to a better understanding of your materials
right now. For one thing, I am laid up with a cold. I'm shutting
down my cite, and I'm through worshipping at the altar of Carl and
Robert.

Or should I have said, "I am done worshipping at your altar Carl and
Robert."

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "bjosephmex" <bjosephmex@...> wrote:
>
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "robert thomas martin"
> <robertthomasmartin@> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry for throwing you to the lions but I have my own ideas about
> what
> > is consonant. Carl Lumma and others from this group are very
> conversant
> > with the math which is associated with this topic and if you can
> explain
> > your ideas to them in a coherent fashion then I am sure that they
> will
> > help you to the utmost of their ability.
> >
>
> Actually, I have all the answers I need. The fact that you posted
> this little note to me speaks volumes.
>
> Let's take a look at one of Carl's posts:
> "Hi, I've developed a theory of consonance that is
> completely unique in all the world, while, mysteriously
> being a reinvention of the wheel at the same time. I've
> gone ahead and created a members-only mailing list devoted
> to my theories, for the benefit of the throngs of people
> who have demonstrated interest in it. So come over and
> check it out -- I'm not interested in contributing here."
>
> Let me re-state what I have already said. This is a first in
print.
> I have had advice from two people who knew what they were doing
both
> in terms of music theory and marketing. Carl and yourself are not
> going to be a first by any means. The two also didn't care to read
> my material. They both had nothing more to say than to advise me
not
> to pursue it. No matter how good it is or how relevant it is, no
one
> will read it, no one will be interested in it at all.
>
> Carl and Robert, I would thank you, really I would have thanked you
> from the bottom of my heart if you had neglected my posts
> completely. Then I would have had short and sweet evidence of how
I
> was able to do exactly what I said I did. I re-invented the wheel
> and came up with something very simple and very valuable that is
not
> presently in print. I was able to do it for the specific reason
that
> nobody cares.
>
> Most good college freshmen could understand my work, no problem.
> Yet, they would have a very difficult time with your posts. I
would
> expect them to respond to my work with, "why don't you show it to
an
> expert?" The college freshmen wouldn't want to read your posts,
> which somehow have been attributed to me. I would be going up
> against a double dose of nobody caring about why nobody cares.
> Slogging through your responses and trying to make sense out of
them
> would be significantly more difficult than reading mine.
>
> This brings me back to you Carl and Robert. I will pretend that I
am
> speaking to you rather than the group, as is so often your
practice.
> Why did you respond to me at all.
>
> For the benefit of the people who have contacted me off line.
Thank
> you for the material you sent me. I find it interesting, though I
> can't say that I have found anything that is correct and yet
> conflicts with my own materials. I understand why you have
contacted
> me off line. I can't get to a better understanding of your
materials
> right now. For one thing, I am laid up with a cold. I'm shutting
> down my cite, and I'm through worshipping at the altar of Carl and
> Robert.
>
> Or should I have said, "I am done worshipping at your altar Carl
and
> Robert."
>

From Robert. I'm not quite sure how to respond to your message
except to say that it is a shame that you shut down your site so
quickly. But I suppose you can always bring it back again under
different group and owner/user names.