Yes

> [Pat Pagano, TD 492.22]
> Yes micah be very careful about what you say regarding YES
> yessongs is a masterpiece
> actually everything up to Tormato qualifies :-)

I agree.

IMO, _Close To The Edge_ is the finest piece ever recorded
by a rock band.

Hmmm... now *there's* something that would make a
great tuning analysis project!...

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>IMO, _Close To The Edge_ is the finest piece ever recorded
>by a rock band.

Agreed (at least for songs in the 20-minute range) -- and the amazing thing
is, formwise, it came together almost by accident! A fortuitous product of
snipping and taping, if you read the history of it.

>Hmmm... now *there's* something that would make a
>great tuning analysis project!...

In the case of Yes or Robert Johnson, I have a (IMO) very important
suggestion for you. Take several alternative performances of the same piece
and analyze the tuning. You will then have an idea as to what kind of
accuracy you can meaningfully ascribe to performer intent and what is due to
random errors. I think you'll find that the level of accuracy you implicitly
ascribe to Robert Johnson (as evidenced by the variety and complexity of the
ratios you use) doesn't hold up under this analysis. Yes is a trickier case
since their vocal harmonies came out far better in the controlled
environment of the studio than with the then-primitive arena amplification
rigs. Still, Jon Anderson's errors in repetitions of the same passage should
give you some idea of what level of accuracy he was capable of (not too
sharp, I think, but better than Steve Howe).

"Paul H. Erlich" wrote:
>
> From: "Paul H. Erlich" <PErlich@Acadian-Asset.com>
>
> >IMO, _Close To The Edge_ is the finest piece ever recorded
> >by a rock band.
>
> Agreed (at least for songs in the 20-minute range) -- and the amazing thing
> is, formwise, it came together almost by accident! A fortuitous product of
> snipping and taping, if you read the history of it.

In interviews drummer Bill Bruford said that it was
recorded in segments but every detail of composition
was hotly debated by band members. Doesn't sound like an accident to me.

BTW: There are Yes & King Crimson discussion lists on the net.

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>In interviews drummer Bill Bruford said that it was
>recorded in segments but every detail of composition
>was hotly debated by band members. Doesn't sound like an accident to me.

Most of the segments were recorded before any conception of how they would
be linked together had been arrived at. I find it remarkable that such a
coherently structured, extended piece came about "bottom-up" rather than
"top-down."

>BTW: There are Yes & King Crimson discussion lists on the net.

Granted, this is getting off topic (though David Cross' violin did tend to
deviate greatly from 12-tET). Are these discussion lists any good?

"Paul H. Erlich" wrote:
>
> From: "Paul H. Erlich" <PErlich@Acadian-Asset.com>
>
> >In interviews drummer Bill Bruford said that it was
> >recorded in segments but every detail of composition
> >was hotly debated by band members. Doesn't sound like an accident to me.
>
> Most of the segments were recorded before any conception of how they would
> be linked together had been arrived at. I find it remarkable that such a
> coherently structured, extended piece came about "bottom-up" rather than
> "top-down."

My recollection of the Bruford interview was that they
sat and discussed the music right down to what note
and chord went next. Close to the Edge in particular.
If I can figure out where I read this I'll look for the interview,
but not now - I'm trying to wrap a bunch of stuff before
the end of the month.

> >BTW: There are Yes & King Crimson discussion lists on the net.
>
> Granted, this is getting off topic (though David Cross' violin did tend to
> deviate greatly from 12-tET). Are these discussion lists any good?

It might be more fun going through the archives.
Both lists (Notes from the Edge and Elephant Talk)
have web sites but I don't have information handy.
Both lists are moderated to keep things from getting out of hand.
I haven't been on the Notes list for a year. I still
get ET, it's a good way to keep on top of new releases
and concerts. After 25 years of Fripp, I know the history
pretty well so I don't really contribute.

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