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🔗robert thomas martin <robertthomasmartin@...>

9/28/2008 12:20:19 AM

http://www.beyhom.com/index_en.htm

This site does not appear to have been mentioned here before. It has an
enormous amount of information for the consideration of experts. I just
found this site and I recognise its value but I don't know much about it
It seems to fit in with the interests of Margo, Ozan et al. The PDFs
appear to be in French but their are lots of tables and empirical
diagrams. I'll leave this to the experts.

🔗Danny Wier <dawiertx@...>

9/28/2008 9:40:49 AM

robert thomas martin wrote:
> http://www.beyhom.com/index_en.htm
>
> This site does not appear to have been mentioned here before. It has an
> enormous amount of information for the consideration of experts. I just > found this site and I recognise its value but I don't know much about it
> It seems to fit in with the interests of Margo, Ozan et al. The PDFs
> appear to be in French but their are lots of tables and empirical
> diagrams. I'll leave this to the experts.
> I found this site by accident a few months ago; I should've mentioned it here when I did. I'm not an expert on Arabic maqam (just an aficionado); neither do I understand French perfectly, but I did perouse the PDFs. They're excerpts of a large thesis on theory, found in the section titled _Syst�matique modale_, and it includes some audio examples, and explores all sorts of possibilities in scale construction using common 24-tone tuning.

http://www.beyhom.com/systematique/index.htm (French)
http://www.beyhom.com/systematique/index_en.htm (English)

I'm reading his curriculum vitae right now - he's a musicology professor in Beirut specializing and also a guitarist and oudist, among other things. I wonder if we can get him to join the discussion here on the list, if he's not too busy...

~D.

🔗Danny Wier <dawiertx@...>

9/28/2008 9:53:33 AM

I wrote:
> robert thomas martin wrote:
> >> http://www.beyhom.com/index_en.htm
>>
>> > I found this site by accident a few months ago; I should've mentioned it > here when I did. I'm not an expert on Arabic maqam (just an aficionado); > neither do I understand French perfectly

Looks like he's got an English translation of his works (or much of his work) - but I'm having trouble viewing some of the PDFs.

🔗robert thomas martin <robertthomasmartin@...>

9/28/2008 10:29:16 AM

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Danny Wier <dawiertx@...> wrote:
>
> robert thomas martin wrote:
> > http://www.beyhom.com/index_en.htm
> >
> > This site does not appear to have been mentioned here before. It
has an
> > enormous amount of information for the consideration of experts.
I just
> > found this site and I recognise its value but I don't know much
about it
> > It seems to fit in with the interests of Margo, Ozan et al. The
PDFs
> > appear to be in French but their are lots of tables and empirical
> > diagrams. I'll leave this to the experts.
> >
>
> I found this site by accident a few months ago; I should've
mentioned it
> here when I did. I'm not an expert on Arabic maqam (just an
aficionado);
> neither do I understand French perfectly, but I did perouse the
PDFs.
> They're excerpts of a large thesis on theory, found in the section
> titled _Systématique modale_, and it includes some audio examples,
and
> explores all sorts of possibilities in scale construction using
common
> 24-tone tuning.
>
> http://www.beyhom.com/systematique/index.htm (French)
> http://www.beyhom.com/systematique/index_en.htm (English)
>
> I'm reading his curriculum vitae right now - he's a musicology
professor
> in Beirut specializing and also a guitarist and oudist, among other
> things. I wonder if we can get him to join the discussion here on
the
> list, if he's not too busy...
>
> ~D.
>
From Robert. France has long been associated with Lebanon and
Beirut has often been described as the "the Paris of the East".
This fellow Beyhom is obviously fluent in French and Arabic so I
suggest that any approach to his person should be in one of these
languages. I might point out that Egyptian popular music is
very, very popular in Lebanon.

🔗Carl Lumma <carl@...>

9/28/2008 10:45:18 AM

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "robert thomas martin"
<robertthomasmartin@...> wrote:
>
> http://www.beyhom.com/index_en.htm
>
> This site does not appear to have been mentioned here before.
> It has an enormous amount of information for the consideration
> of experts. I just found this site and I recognise its value
> but I don't know much about it It seems to fit in with the
> interests of Margo, Ozan et al. The PDFs appear to be in
> French but their are lots of tables and empirical diagrams.
> I'll leave this to the experts.

That is indeed an interesting-looking site. I downloaded
7 mp3 files -- five sounded like jazz, and two sounded more
arabic/microtonal.

-Carl

🔗Carl Lumma <carl@...>

9/28/2008 10:47:03 AM

> From Robert. France has long been associated with Lebanon and
> Beirut has often been described as the "the Paris of the East".
> This fellow Beyhom is obviously fluent in French and Arabic so I
> suggest that any approach to his person should be in one of these
> languages. I might point out that Egyptian popular music is
> very, very popular in Lebanon.
>

I have a DVD of Ahmad Jamal playing in Beirut. Seems like
an interesting place. -C.

🔗Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...>

9/28/2008 3:46:59 PM

Some oud music from our famous Cinuçen (Jinuchen) Tanrikorur, one of
the best oud players of Turkiye:

http://www.video75.com/video-ara.php?tag=cinucen+tanrikorur&hepsi=Video75+te+Ara

Notice the microtonality of Huzzam!

Oz.

On Sep 28, 2008, at 8:29 PM, robert thomas martin wrote:

> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Danny Wier <dawiertx@...> wrote:
>>
>> robert thomas martin wrote:
>>> http://www.beyhom.com/index_en.htm
>>>
>>> This site does not appear to have been mentioned here before. It
> has an
>>> enormous amount of information for the consideration of experts.
> I just
>>> found this site and I recognise its value but I don't know much
> about it
>>> It seems to fit in with the interests of Margo, Ozan et al. The
> PDFs
>>> appear to be in French but their are lots of tables and empirical
>>> diagrams. I'll leave this to the experts.
>>>
>>
>> I found this site by accident a few months ago; I should've
> mentioned it
>> here when I did. I'm not an expert on Arabic maqam (just an
> aficionado);
>> neither do I understand French perfectly, but I did perouse the
> PDFs.
>> They're excerpts of a large thesis on theory, found in the section
>> titled _Systématique modale_, and it includes some audio examples,
> and
>> explores all sorts of possibilities in scale construction using
> common
>> 24-tone tuning.
>>
>> http://www.beyhom.com/systematique/index.htm (French)
>> http://www.beyhom.com/systematique/index_en.htm (English)
>>
>> I'm reading his curriculum vitae right now - he's a musicology
> professor
>> in Beirut specializing and also a guitarist and oudist, among other
>> things. I wonder if we can get him to join the discussion here on
> the
>> list, if he's not too busy...
>>
>> ~D.
>>
> From Robert. France has long been associated with Lebanon and
> Beirut has often been described as the "the Paris of the East".
> This fellow Beyhom is obviously fluent in French and Arabic so I
> suggest that any approach to his person should be in one of these
> languages. I might point out that Egyptian popular music is
> very, very popular in Lebanon.
>