Some Turkish Makams in 48tet.

http://www.hinesmusic.com/What_Are_Makams.html

Includes audio files.

That site is full of incorrect information and misrepresents even the AEU accidentals through personal innovation that has no applicability to current practice. At least one might get a glimpse of the structure of maqams as Turks and Arabs understand them.

Oz.

On Aug 14, 2008, at 1:04 AM, robert thomas martin wrote:

> http://www.hinesmusic.com/What_Are_Makams.html
>
> Includes audio files.

robert thomas martin wrote:
> http://www.hinesmusic.com/What_Are_Makams.html
>
> Includes audio files.
> I remember seeing that page long ago when I started studying maqam theory on my own. I don't think the author means 48-equal though; he states that Turkish music uses "scales based on Pythagorean principles", and an extended Pythagorean scale produces essentially 53-tone equal temperament. What the author calls "1/8 tone" would be one comma, "1/4 tone" two commas and so on. (The whole tone is actually nine commas.)

I'd also recommend David Parfitt's website on oud: http://www.oud.eclipse.co.uk/ , where he talks about both Arabic and Turkish theory, and lists a number of maqams in both systems, which are very similar despite being notated differently.

~D.

Ozan Yarman wrote:
> That site is full of incorrect information and misrepresents even the > AEU accidentals through personal innovation that has no applicability > to current practice. At least one might get a glimpse of the structure > of maqams as Turks and Arabs understand them.
> Now that I remember, he _does_ use some strange symbols he's probably made up himself. I've never seen a Tartini-Couper half sharp with a tiny X in the middle, for example, and that would seem to be very impractical in actual use with a grand staff and everything.

I'd rather use Arel-Ezgi accidentals with small numerals, which is done in current practice. ~D.

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...> wrote:
>
> That site is full of incorrect information and misrepresents even
the
> AEU accidentals through personal innovation that has no
applicability
> to current practice. At least one might get a glimpse of the
structure
> of maqams as Turks and Arabs understand them.
>
> Oz.
>
> On Aug 14, 2008, at 1:04 AM, robert thomas martin wrote:
>
> > http://www.hinesmusic.com/What_Are_Makams.html
> >
> > Includes audio files.
>

From Robert. I'll defer to your expertise on the subject. This
site is far more commercial than instructional. But it is an
example of one individual trying to bridge the gap between East
and West with his own "brand" of Turkish music.

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Danny Wier <dawiertx@...> wrote:
>
> robert thomas martin wrote:
> > http://www.hinesmusic.com/What_Are_Makams.html
> >
> > Includes audio files.
> >
>
> I remember seeing that page long ago when I started studying maqam
> theory on my own. I don't think the author means 48-equal though;
he
> states that Turkish music uses "scales based on Pythagorean
principles",
> and an extended Pythagorean scale produces essentially 53-tone
equal
> temperament. What the author calls "1/8 tone" would be one
comma, "1/4
> tone" two commas and so on. (The whole tone is actually nine
commas.)
>
> I'd also recommend David Parfitt's website on oud:
> http://www.oud.eclipse.co.uk/ , where he talks about both Arabic
and
> Turkish theory, and lists a number of maqams in both systems, which
are
> very similar despite being notated differently.
>
> ~D.
>

From Robert. You are correct in saying that it's not really 48tet.
I was a bit hasty in posting this link's description. I agree that
the Oud website above can be recommended which I did some time ago
at the MicroMadeEasy yahoo group.