New completed file: "The Waterloo Rag"

In my online file storage...

http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/dawier/

I have a FINISHED recording of that thing in 72-edo I've been working on for the past month. I'd call it a "beta" version demo, since I might improve it later on. (There might be mistakes, such as a note being tuned 17 cents flat instead of sharp, etc.)

I also should working on a "manifesto" of sorts on 72-tone composing. A big influence in my music nowadays is Arabic, Turkish and Persian music, and there are references to several maqams in this particular composition (you might hear bits of Saba, Rast and of course Nihawand, since it's in F minor).

In 72-equal, I tune the Hijaz tetrachord (and the top four notes of harmonic minor) 7+16+7, by the way. I have a hard-and-fast rule about making all my diatonic semitones 7 commas, but if necessary, sizes of 8, and even more rarely 6, may be used.

Anywhats, I just celebrated by singing "Macarthur Park" metal style. Enjoy!

~D.

Danny, this is great! Kudos to you.

Oz.

On Aug 13, 2008, at 10:36 PM, Danny Wier wrote:

> In my online file storage...
>
> http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/dawier/
>
> I have a FINISHED recording of that thing in 72-edo I've been > working on
> for the past month. I'd call it a "beta" version demo, since I might
> improve it later on. (There might be mistakes, such as a note being
> tuned 17 cents flat instead of sharp, etc.)
>
> I also should working on a "manifesto" of sorts on 72-tone > composing. A
> big influence in my music nowadays is Arabic, Turkish and Persian > music,
> and there are references to several maqams in this particular
> composition (you might hear bits of Saba, Rast and of course Nihawand,
> since it's in F minor).
>
> In 72-equal, I tune the Hijaz tetrachord (and the top four notes of
> harmonic minor) 7+16+7, by the way. I have a hard-and-fast rule about
> making all my diatonic semitones 7 commas, but if necessary, sizes > of 8,
> and even more rarely 6, may be used.
>
> Anywhats, I just celebrated by singing "Macarthur Park" metal style. > Enjoy!
>
> ~D.
>
>

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Danny Wier <dawiertx@...> wrote:
>
> In my online file storage...
>
> http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/dawier/
>
> I have a FINISHED recording of that thing in 72-edo I've been
> working on for the past month. I'd call it a "beta" version demo,
> since I might improve it later on. (There might be mistakes, such
> as a note being tuned 17 cents flat instead of sharp, etc.)
>
> I also should working on a "manifesto" of sorts on 72-tone
> composing. A big influence in my music nowadays is Arabic, Turkish
> and Persian music, and there are references to several maqams in
> this particular composition (you might hear bits of Saba, Rast and
> of course Nihawand, since it's in F minor).
>

Yeh, great, as was the pre-version before!

I gotta listen more closely, concerning the maqams. On first listen,
I heard major and minor, but could not detect much maqam.

I will be interested about the manifesto, too! Indeed I migth have a
closer look at 72edo composing.
--
Hans Straub

hstraub64 wrote:
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Danny Wier <dawiertx@...> wrote:
> >> I also should working on a "manifesto" of sorts on 72-tone >> composing. A big influence in my music nowadays is Arabic, Turkish >> and Persian music, and there are references to several maqams in >> this particular composition (you might hear bits of Saba, Rast and >> of course Nihawand, since it's in F minor).
> Yeh, great, as was the pre-version before!
>
> I gotta listen more closely, concerning the maqams. On first listen, > I heard major and minor, but could not detect much maqam.
>
> I will be interested about the manifesto, too! Indeed I migth have a > closer look at 72edo composing.
> Thanks to you too... and I should've said ajnas (tetrachords and such) instead of maqamat, since I only quoted the Saba tetrachord in F minor at 1:52 and 4:41. The notes, doubled in four octaves are F-Gd-Ab-Bbb. The brief "Rast" section from 3:11 to 3:20, and it repeats the F major trio theme using neutral thirds, sixths and sevenths instead of major.

I could've said Ajam for major, Nihawand for minor and Kurd for Phrygian, but those don't really count.

I'm not as good at writing manifestos, so it might not make much sense. Basically, I divide 72-edo into 31 pitch classes corresponding to meantone tuning, or 41-tone to Pythagorean. ~D.

Hi Danny
 
Very good , Thanks for it.

Shaahin mohajeri , Tombak player and microtonalist
 
My microtonal web site
Shaahin in wikipedia
My farsi page in harmonytalk
Irandrumz ensemble

Motashakeram! And I need to look at your homepage again... I'm familiarizing myself with Persian music theory myself. I haven't found as much online as I have on Arabic, Turkey and Indian theory, but I did find a book in Farsi at the Univ. of Texas library. I got some pages copied somewhere...

~D.

shahin mohajeri wrote:
> Hi Danny
> > Very good , Thanks for it.
>
>
> >
> /*Shaahin mohajeri , Tombak player and microtonalist*/
>
> * *
>
> /*My microtonal web site* <http://240edo.googlepages.com/>/
>
> _*/Shaahin in wikipedia/* > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaahin_Mohajeri>_
>
> /*My farsi page in harmonytalk* <http://www.harmonytalk.com/mohajeri>/
>
> /*Irandrumz ensemble* <http://irandrumz.googlepages.com/>/
>

To Danny:

I've heard your new composition a few days ago. Let me say this is the
greatest microtonal piano piece I've heard so far. Are you using all of the
72 tones to the octave there, or are these some preferred modes of 72-EDO?

Petr

Petr Par�zek wrote:
> To Danny:
>
> I've heard your new composition a few days ago. Let me say this is the
> greatest microtonal piano piece I've heard so far. Are you using all of the
> 72 tones to the octave there, or are these some preferred modes of 72-EDO?

Thanks a million... you sure about *best*? You folks need to try harder then.

I know I didn't use all 72 pitches in the octave, but I did use a lot. I haven't counted, but I did use almost all 31 pitch classes at least (the "canasta" set, with each pitch variable by one comma up or down).

I was limiting myself to an approximation of 11-limit, since 72-edo is best with that, but I didn't take advantage of the primes 13 and 17 like I could've done. I'm planning on that for my next composition, titled "Ambiguous Political Statement", a sort of fanfare-march for brass (probably trombone choir, from soprano to contrabass), strings, percussion and other winds (using microtonal techniques somehow).

~D.