For your listening pleasure

Hi there,

it went better than I expected.
For this "session", I've chosen George's suggestion -- I hope I can try Herman's idea of mavila during the weekend so I'll surely let you know then.

I've made actually two pieces. In the first one, the scale is a regular part of the harmonic series from 6 to 16. I used two tracks to record the kalimba, one played at its normal speed and another one played twice as fast to get an extra octave higher.
I also used a third track where I played the overtone flute and there's also a bit of my voice at the very end.

For the second piece, I changed the harmonics to 5-15. Here I've used a much longer reverb than in #1 to emphasize the sonority of the harmonic intervals. Although there are no flutes or voices this time (only the two kalimba tracks as mentioned above), I think the music speaks for itself and doesn't need adding any further instruments.

So, here we go:
www.yousendit.com/download/Q01FT2pETSt3NUpjR0E9PQ
www.yousendit.com/download/Q01FT2pPK3hOMUN4dnc9PQ

Petr

I just listened to the first one. Really nice stuff. Did you play all
of the instruments?

Also funny that you'd throw the sygyt singing in there. I've been
trying to learn how to do that for the past few weeks now, with some
success.

I'm actually trying to get David Hykes' method down - the one where he
doesn't use squeezed voice. I don't know if you've ever heard of David
Hykes, but he's got some of the best overtone singing I've ever heard
- check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X03ZJ6eLQzU. The best work
of his I've ever heard is a piece called "Rainbow Voice" though - it's
not on youtube, but if you can find it somewhere, it's really good.

Mike wrote:

> I just listened to the first one. Really nice stuff. Did you play all
> of the instruments?

Thanks a lot, Mike. - Well, ... I had to. :-D

> Also funny that you'd throw the sygyt singing in there. I've been
> trying to learn how to do that for the past few weeks now, with some
> success.

Great, right on.

> I'm actually trying to get David Hykes' method down - the one where he
> doesn't use squeezed voice. I don't know if you've ever heard of David
> Hykes, but he's got some of the best overtone singing I've ever heard
> - check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X03ZJ6eLQzU. The best work
> of his I've ever heard is a piece called "Rainbow Voice" though - it's
> not on youtube, but if you can find it somewhere, it's really good.

I've heard some of his works; probably not particularly that one but some others. If you like that, you may also like Spectral Voices (www.spectralvoices.com).

As far as sygyt is concerned, I originally DID want to use the "pressurized" voice but I eventually found the sound not very good for mixing with the soft sound of the kalimba.

Petr

Petr Pa��zek wrote:
> Hi there,
> > it went better than I expected.
> For this "session", I've chosen George's suggestion -- I hope I can try > Herman's idea of mavila during the weekend so I'll surely let you know then.
> > I've made actually two pieces. In the first one, the scale is a regular part > of the harmonic series from 6 to 16. I used two tracks to record the > kalimba, one played at its normal speed and another one played twice as fast > to get an extra octave higher.
> I also used a third track where I played the overtone flute and there's also > a bit of my voice at the very end.
> > For the second piece, I changed the harmonics to 5-15. Here I've used a much > longer reverb than in #1 to emphasize the sonority of the harmonic > intervals. Although there are no flutes or voices this time (only the two > kalimba tracks as mentioned above), I think the music speaks for itself and > doesn't need adding any further instruments.
> > So, here we go:
> www.yousendit.com/download/Q01FT2pETSt3NUpjR0E9PQ
> www.yousendit.com/download/Q01FT2pPK3hOMUN4dnc9PQ

I don't recall having trouble with yousendit.com before, but these aren't working for me. Even accepting cookies and temporarily allowing doubleclick.net doesn't seem to help.

> So, here we go:
> www.yousendit.com/download/Q01FT2pETSt3NUpjR0E9PQ
> www.yousendit.com/download/Q01FT2pPK3hOMUN4dnc9PQ
>
> Petr

Sorry, I didn't realize that the instrument in question
was an mbira. -Carl

First of all, thanks Petr; the compositions sounded good. Simple but effective. (I use that phrase a lot.)

Mike Battaglia wrote:
> I just listened to the first one. Really nice stuff. Did you play all
> of the instruments?
>
> Also funny that you'd throw the sygyt singing in there. I've been
> trying to learn how to do that for the past few weeks now, with some
> success.
>
> I'm actually trying to get David Hykes' method down - the one where he
> doesn't use squeezed voice. I don't know if you've ever heard of David
> Hykes, but he's got some of the best overtone singing I've ever heard
> - check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X03ZJ6eLQzU. The best work
> of his I've ever heard is a piece called "Rainbow Voice" though - it's
> not on youtube, but if you can find it somewhere, it's really good.
> That's nice, Mike! Aren't the singers in the video sort of singing and whistling at the same time?

I'm trying to semi-master Mongolian/Tuvin/Tibetan throat singing myself. I can get the larynx to vibrate to do that funny thing and vibrate an octave lower (the other day, I somehow get a twelfth lower), but it starts getting painful after less than a minute. I can change the timbre with the mouth, but I don't whistle very well, so I'm having trouble producing pure high harmonics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overtone_singing

And some rock, metal and other non-traditional singers are using kh��mii-like techniques, as did a Texan country singer named Arthur Miles way back. ~D.

Herman wrote:

> I don't recall having trouble with yousendit.com before, but these
> aren't working for me. Even accepting cookies and temporarily allowing
> doubleclick.net doesn't seem to help.

Although I have no idea what�s happened that they don�t work for you, I�ve used a different server to upload the music, hoping this will work:

www.sendspace.com/file/0ypi92

www.sendspace.com/file/vzktif

Petr

Danny wrote:

> First of all, thanks Petr; the compositions sounded good. Simple but
> effective. (I use that phrase a lot.)

Thanks, Danny. I appreciate these words.

> That's nice, Mike! Aren't the singers in the video sort of singing and
> whistling at the same time?

Surely not. The high tones don't come from whistling, they are overtones of the voice itself. The aim is to make a tiny hole between your tongue and the roof of your mouth and vary its size by variing the shape of your tongue -- and sometimes possibly amplifiing some of the lower overtones by variing the shape of your lips. The reason why you DO have to use your voice in overtone singing is that this makes the overtones tuned to the harmonic series. If you wanted, for example, to do it while whispering, then you would only get glissandi because you would be actually filtering the breathing noise. If you want, I can make such a demo and send it to you. In fact, I don't know how to explain this in an "understandable" way. As to the recording of mine, I've never been taught this, it was simply "trial and error" until it went okay. You may find this article interesting: www.phys.unsw.edu.au/jw/xoomi.html

I've never done any "tutorials" on how it should be done but other people have. If you wish, you may try this (although the explanation isn't looking very "systematic" to me personally): www.youtube.com/watch?v=a940YFaRI50

> I'm trying to semi-master Mongolian/Tuvin/Tibetan throat singing myself.
> I can get the larynx to vibrate to do that funny thing and vibrate an
> octave lower (the other day, I somehow get a twelfth lower), but it
> starts getting painful after less than a minute. I can change the timbre
> with the mouth, but I don't whistle very well, so I'm having trouble
> producing pure high harmonics.

There's an excellent website www.khoomei.com which explains some of these matters. But if you already know about Arthur Miles, you probably also know about this website -- don't know where else you could have got to him.

And again, it's important to know it's nothing to do with whistling.

Petr

Carl wrote:

> Sorry, I didn't realize that the instrument in question
> was an mbira. -Carl

The only difference between a mbira and a kalimba which I know about is the fact that the metal tongues are much more of a string-like or wire-like shape on a mbira, whereas a kalimba, includingthe one I have, probably most often has them shaped fla -- as if they were tiny rulers or whatever. This also has an audible effect on the sound timbre when compared to a mbira sound.

Petr

There is a Jim Cole on this list that does some fine harmonic singing. harmonic singing was the subject of my last blog post
2nd link below
--

/^_,',',',_ //^ /Kraig Grady_ ^_,',',',_
Mesotonal Music from:
_'''''''_ ^North/Western Hemisphere: North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>

_'''''''_ ^South/Eastern Hemisphere:
Austronesian Outpost of Anaphoria <http://anaphoriasouth.blogspot.com/>

',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Petr Parízek <p.parizek@...> wrote:
>
> Carl wrote:
>
> > Sorry, I didn't realize that the instrument in question
> > was an mbira. -Carl
>
> The only difference between a mbira and a kalimba which I know
> about is the fact that the metal tongues are much more of a
> string-like or wire-like shape on a mbira, whereas a kalimba,
> includingthe one I have, probably most often has them shaped
> fla -- as if they were tiny rulers or whatever. This also has
> an audible effect on the sound timbre when compared to a mbira
> sound.
>
> Petr

For some reason I was thinking of a xylophone-type thing. Which
is why I made the recommendations I did. -C.

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1) Well let's hear some recordings then!
2) How old are you?
3) This is a forum about tuning, so I hope that piano is tuned to
quarter-comma meantone or something.

-Mike

On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 9:16 AM, darlene damron <darledamr@...> wrote:
> i wish i could form a band some time, i would be good at it, i can rock real
> good on the piano, i can play whole lotta of shakin from jerry lee lewis on
> it, i play by ear mostly i can read sheet music but it is hard i am
> dislexic, but i play like a pro, i have been playing sence i was 6, my
> relitives started teaching me on there piano back then and i practiced
> alot, i have only took a coupple lessons and my relitives couldnt afford it
> so i tought my self, i tought my self from the liberochie books so i can
> reed sheet music verry well but it is hard to put them on piano it takes a
> while, thease are the ones with no numbers nor letters, but i play extreamy
> well by ear, people comes over says i play like a pro, i can do the old type
> piano and i can do the newer electric piano with all the bebops, i have both
> here.i can play great balls of fire, and elves pressley songs, tennisy
> walts, the old beugler boy, and much more, any thing i hear on the radio, i
> can play pictures from i keep forgeting the newest person that plays it, all
> i have to do is hear it a coupple times or some ties once and then i got it
> like a pro, it might take a little bit to mastermize it, but i can do the
> slides with my hands in the middly of the songs as well, i can do kiss the
> girl from murmades, usiing all the keys on the key bord.
>
> On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 12:37 AM, Danny Wier <dawiertx@...> wrote:
>>
>> First of all, thanks Petr; the compositions sounded good. Simple but
>> effective. (I use that phrase a lot.)
>>
>> Mike Battaglia wrote:
>> > I just listened to the first one. Really nice stuff. Did you play all
>> > of the instruments?
>> >
>> > Also funny that you'd throw the sygyt singing in there. I've been
>> > trying to learn how to do that for the past few weeks now, with some
>> > success.
>> >
>> > I'm actually trying to get David Hykes' method down - the one where he
>> > doesn't use squeezed voice. I don't know if you've ever heard of David
>> > Hykes, but he's got some of the best overtone singing I've ever heard
>> > - check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X03ZJ6eLQzU. The best work
>> > of his I've ever heard is a piece called "Rainbow Voice" though - it's
>> > not on youtube, but if you can find it somewhere, it's really good.
>> >
>>
>> That's nice, Mike! Aren't the singers in the video sort of singing and
>> whistling at the same time?
>>
>> I'm trying to semi-master Mongolian/Tuvin/Tibetan throat singing myself.
>> I can get the larynx to vibrate to do that funny thing and vibrate an
>> octave lower (the other day, I somehow get a twelfth lower), but it
>> starts getting painful after less than a minute. I can change the timbre
>> with the mouth, but I don't whistle very well, so I'm having trouble
>> producing pure high harmonics.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overtone_singing
>>
>> And some rock, metal and other non-traditional singers are using
>> khöömii-like techniques, as did a Texan country singer named Arthur
>> Miles way back. ~D.
>
>

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--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "darlene damron" <darledamr@...> wrote:
>
> i am 42 years old, i dont know any thing about recording, i havent
learned
> that yet, i usually play on my regular piano, i live in warren
michigan,
> alot of stuff i kneed tought, i could be a one woman band but i
dont have
> the gitar nor nothing, i learned cat scratch fever on the 4 string
base
> guitar, i started teaching my self drums, but i am the best on the
piano, i
> wish i could learn how to do recordings and stuff like that, if you
all herd
> it you all would love it, i can play pretty close to any thing i
hear, and i
> rote some music as well, i lost my daddy for christmas i rote that,
it is
> played on the piano, i have been working on the lyricks on a nother
song i
> am riting, all i kneed is people that can play different
instruments other
> than the one i play and we have a great band, i have played your
teddy bear
> by elvis, hart and soal alone with out 2 people, the boogie woogie
base, but
> more of a rock and roll version, with the slides, it is awsome, if
you all
> can teach me how to record it i can play it for you all but i dont
know how
> to do any of that, you all would think i am a pro believe me. i do
have gods
> gift talent, my grandma used to play the organ and piano the organ
for
> church, my uncle bob used to teach orchestra so much of my family
has talant
> and this is mine. the piano is the best. i have been practising
alot, i
> hope i can be just as great as jerry lee lewis, i can play the song
of donna
> from richie valanse.
>
> On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Mike Battaglia
<battaglia01@...>wrote:
>
> > 1) Well let's hear some recordings then!
> > 2) How old are you?
> > 3) This is a forum about tuning, so I hope that piano is tuned to
> > quarter-comma meantone or something.
> >
> > -Mike
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 9:16 AM, darlene damron
<darledamr@...<darledamr%40gmail.com>>
> > wrote:
> > > i wish i could form a band some time, i would be good at it, i
can rock
> > real
> > > good on the piano, i can play whole lotta of shakin from jerry
lee lewis
> > on
> > > it, i play by ear mostly i can read sheet music but it is hard
i am
> > > dislexic, but i play like a pro, i have been playing sence i
was 6, my
> > > relitives started teaching me on there piano back then and i
practiced
> > > alot, i have only took a coupple lessons and my relitives
couldnt afford
> > it
> > > so i tought my self, i tought my self from the liberochie books
so i can
> > > reed sheet music verry well but it is hard to put them on piano
it takes
> > a
> > > while, thease are the ones with no numbers nor letters, but i
play
> > extreamy
> > > well by ear, people comes over says i play like a pro, i can do
the old
> > type
> > > piano and i can do the newer electric piano with all the
bebops, i have
> > both
> > > here.i can play great balls of fire, and elves pressley songs,
tennisy
> > > walts, the old beugler boy, and much more, any thing i hear on
the radio,
> > i
> > > can play pictures from i keep forgeting the newest person that
plays it,
> > all
> > > i have to do is hear it a coupple times or some ties once and
then i got
> > it
> > > like a pro, it might take a little bit to mastermize it, but i
can do the
> > > slides with my hands in the middly of the songs as well, i can
do kiss
> > the
> > > girl from murmades, usiing all the keys on the key bord.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 12:37 AM, Danny Wier
<dawiertx@...<dawiertx%40sbcglobal.net>>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> First of all, thanks Petr; the compositions sounded good.
Simple but
> > >> effective. (I use that phrase a lot.)
> > >>
> > >> Mike Battaglia wrote:
> > >> > I just listened to the first one. Really nice stuff. Did you
play all
> > >> > of the instruments?
> > >> >
> > >> > Also funny that you'd throw the sygyt singing in there. I've
been
> > >> > trying to learn how to do that for the past few weeks now,
with some
> > >> > success.
> > >> >
> > >> > I'm actually trying to get David Hykes' method down - the
one where he
> > >> > doesn't use squeezed voice. I don't know if you've ever
heard of David
> > >> > Hykes, but he's got some of the best overtone singing I've
ever heard
> > >> > - check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X03ZJ6eLQzU. The
best work
> > >> > of his I've ever heard is a piece called "Rainbow Voice"
though - it's
> > >> > not on youtube, but if you can find it somewhere, it's
really good.
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> That's nice, Mike! Aren't the singers in the video sort of
singing and
> > >> whistling at the same time?
> > >>
> > >> I'm trying to semi-master Mongolian/Tuvin/Tibetan throat
singing myself.
> > >> I can get the larynx to vibrate to do that funny thing and
vibrate an
> > >> octave lower (the other day, I somehow get a twelfth lower),
but it
> > >> starts getting painful after less than a minute. I can change
the timbre
> > >> with the mouth, but I don't whistle very well, so I'm having
trouble
> > >> producing pure high harmonics.
> > >>
> > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overtone_singing
> > >>
> > >> And some rock, metal and other non-traditional singers are
using
> > >> khöömii-like techniques, as did a Texan country singer named
Arthur
> > >> Miles way back. ~D.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

***I guess the "slides" qualify this as "alternate tuning work..."
It's hard to tell...

J. Pehrson

Hello Darlene,
I emailed you privately. They want this tuning list -
tuning@yahoogroups.com - to be mainly about different ways to tune the
piano, organs, stuff like that. Can we talk there instead? Feel free
to email me at battaglia01@....

-Mike

On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 6:33 PM, darlene damron <darledamr@...> wrote:
> i am 42 years old, i dont know any thing about recording, i havent learned
> that yet, i usually play on my regular piano, i live in warren michigan,
> alot of stuff i kneed tought, i could be a one woman band but i dont have
> the gitar nor nothing, i learned cat scratch fever on the 4 string base
> guitar, i started teaching my self drums, but i am the best on the piano, i
> wish i could learn how to do recordings and stuff like that, if you all herd
> it you all would love it, i can play pretty close to any thing i hear, and i
> rote some music as well, i lost my daddy for christmas i rote that, it is
> played on the piano, i have been working on the lyricks on a nother song i
> am riting, all i kneed is people that can play different instruments other
> than the one i play and we have a great band, i have played your teddy bear
> by elvis, hart and soal alone with out 2 people, the boogie woogie base, but
> more of a rock and roll version, with the slides, it is awsome, if you all
> can teach me how to record it i can play it for you all but i dont know how
> to do any of that, you all would think i am a pro believe me. i do have gods
> gift talent, my grandma used to play the organ and piano the organ for
> church, my uncle bob used to teach orchestra so much of my family has talant
> and this is mine. the piano is the best. i have been practising alot, i
> hope i can be just as great as jerry lee lewis, i can play the song of donna
> from richie valanse.
>
> On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> 1) Well let's hear some recordings then!
>> 2) How old are you?
>> 3) This is a forum about tuning, so I hope that piano is tuned to
>> quarter-comma meantone or something.
>>
>> -Mike
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 9:16 AM, darlene damron <darledamr@...>
>> wrote:
>> > i wish i could form a band some time, i would be good at it, i can rock
>> > real
>> > good on the piano, i can play whole lotta of shakin from jerry lee lewis
>> > on
>> > it, i play by ear mostly i can read sheet music but it is hard i am
>> > dislexic, but i play like a pro, i have been playing sence i was 6, my
>> > relitives started teaching me on there piano back then and i practiced
>> > alot, i have only took a coupple lessons and my relitives couldnt afford
>> > it
>> > so i tought my self, i tought my self from the liberochie books so i can
>> > reed sheet music verry well but it is hard to put them on piano it takes
>> > a
>> > while, thease are the ones with no numbers nor letters, but i play
>> > extreamy
>> > well by ear, people comes over says i play like a pro, i can do the old
>> > type
>> > piano and i can do the newer electric piano with all the bebops, i have
>> > both
>> > here.i can play great balls of fire, and elves pressley songs, tennisy
>> > walts, the old beugler boy, and much more, any thing i hear on the
>> > radio, i
>> > can play pictures from i keep forgeting the newest person that plays it,
>> > all
>> > i have to do is hear it a coupple times or some ties once and then i got
>> > it
>> > like a pro, it might take a little bit to mastermize it, but i can do
>> > the
>> > slides with my hands in the middly of the songs as well, i can do kiss
>> > the
>> > girl from murmades, usiing all the keys on the key bord.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 12:37 AM, Danny Wier <dawiertx@...>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> First of all, thanks Petr; the compositions sounded good. Simple but
>> >> effective. (I use that phrase a lot.)
>> >>
>> >> Mike Battaglia wrote:
>> >> > I just listened to the first one. Really nice stuff. Did you play all
>> >> > of the instruments?
>> >> >
>> >> > Also funny that you'd throw the sygyt singing in there. I've been
>> >> > trying to learn how to do that for the past few weeks now, with some
>> >> > success.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm actually trying to get David Hykes' method down - the one where
>> >> > he
>> >> > doesn't use squeezed voice. I don't know if you've ever heard of
>> >> > David
>> >> > Hykes, but he's got some of the best overtone singing I've ever heard
>> >> > - check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X03ZJ6eLQzU. The best work
>> >> > of his I've ever heard is a piece called "Rainbow Voice" though -
>> >> > it's
>> >> > not on youtube, but if you can find it somewhere, it's really good.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> That's nice, Mike! Aren't the singers in the video sort of singing and
>> >> whistling at the same time?
>> >>
>> >> I'm trying to semi-master Mongolian/Tuvin/Tibetan throat singing
>> >> myself.
>> >> I can get the larynx to vibrate to do that funny thing and vibrate an
>> >> octave lower (the other day, I somehow get a twelfth lower), but it
>> >> starts getting painful after less than a minute. I can change the
>> >> timbre
>> >> with the mouth, but I don't whistle very well, so I'm having trouble
>> >> producing pure high harmonics.
>> >>
>> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overtone_singing
>> >>
>> >> And some rock, metal and other non-traditional singers are using
>> >> khöömii-like techniques, as did a Texan country singer named Arthur
>> >> Miles way back. ~D.
>> >
>> >
>
>

Petr Pa��zek wrote:
> Herman wrote:
> > > >> I don't recall having trouble with yousendit.com before, but these
>> aren't working for me. Even accepting cookies and temporarily allowing
>> doubleclick.net doesn't seem to help.
> > > > Although I have no idea what�s happened that they don�t work for you, I�ve > used a different server to upload the music, hoping this will work:
> > www.sendspace.com/file/0ypi92
> > www.sendspace.com/file/vzktif

That works fine, thanks. I like how these turned out!

I've done an experiment with the Harmonic Kalimba 2 which I sent earlier. Don't know of how much interest this will be to you, but I was very surprised how such a small change could alter the entire character of the sound. I've just tried to change the envelope for the reverb, making the high frequencies decay shorter than in the previous version and the low frequencies decay longer. I think it has turned the sound much more towards what I originally was looking for. If you want to have a listen although you've already heard it, here is the version with the different reverb: www.sendspace.com/file/xcuwom

Petr

Petr Par�zek wrote:
>
> I�ve never done any �tutorials� on how it should be done but other > people have. If you wish, you may try this (although the explanation > isn�t looking very �systematic� to me personally): > www.youtube.com/watch?v=a940YFaRI50 ...
>
> There�s an excellent website www.khoomei.com <http://www.khoomei.com/> > which explains some of these matters. But if you already know about > Arthur Miles, you probably also know about this website -- don�t know > where else you could have got to him.
>
> And again, it�s important to know it�s nothing to do with whistling.
>

Hey, thanks for the info; I've been busy lately so I don't know when I'll get to it. The band is supposed to practice today, so I can freak the rest of 'em out.

Again, I can *kinda* fake sygyt, and can do kargyraa, but I'm still wondering how I sung a twelfth lower (1/3 fundamental) that one time. ~D.

That sounds really good! And well played.

Heh, that just reminds me - we once bought a kalimba, many years ago.
Gotta have a look where that thing went... How long does it take to
learn to play the kalimba to this level?

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Petr Paøízek <p.parizek@...> wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> it went better than I expected.
> For this "session", I've chosen George's suggestion -- I hope I can
try
> Herman's idea of mavila during the weekend so I'll surely let you
know then.
>
> I've made actually two pieces. In the first one, the scale is a
regular part
> of the harmonic series from 6 to 16. I used two tracks to record
the
> kalimba, one played at its normal speed and another one played
twice as fast
> to get an extra octave higher.
> I also used a third track where I played the overtone flute and
there's also
> a bit of my voice at the very end.
>
> For the second piece, I changed the harmonics to 5-15. Here I've
used a much
> longer reverb than in #1 to emphasize the sonority of the harmonic
> intervals. Although there are no flutes or voices this time (only
the two
> kalimba tracks as mentioned above), I think the music speaks for
itself and
> doesn't need adding any further instruments.
>
> So, here we go:
> www.yousendit.com/download/Q01FT2pETSt3NUpjR0E9PQ
> www.yousendit.com/download/Q01FT2pPK3hOMUN4dnc9PQ
>
> Petr
>

Hans Straub wrote:

> How long does it take to
> learn to play the kalimba to this level?

If there's someone or something that can lead you, you can get there within
a few weeks. What has lead me most of all was the group called "Master
Musicians of Tanzania" with the great singer Hukwe Zawose. I left a
recording of theirs for you here:
https://www.yousendit.com/download/Q01IK0duT2I1bmp2Wmc9PQ

Petr

Petr wrote:

> If there's someone or something that can lead you, you can get
> there within a few weeks. What has lead me most of all was the
> group called "Master Musicians of Tanzania" with the great
> singer Hukwe Zawose. I left a recording of theirs for you here:
> https://www.yousendit.com/download/Q01IK0duT2I1bmp2Wmc9PQ

Thanks, that's very nice. I have the album "Chibite", which
features very obvious harmonic series scales, which are great
but inauthentic I'm sure.

-Carl

That CD is one of the few places i have found (quasi) harmonic series material from Africa. Never good for sales to title a CD 'suffering' though.
There is a JVC recording also of his which is quite good.

--

Posted by: "Petr Par�zek"

What has lead me most of all was the group called "Master
Musicians of Tanzania" with the great singer Hukwe Zawose. I

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Mesotonal Music from:
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Kraig wrote:

> There is a JVC recording also of his which is quite good.

I'm not sure if I've heard about that. Do you know about any website which
could describe the recording in more detail -- i.e. when it was made, how
many songs there are and so on? -- And in the best case, some audio excerpts
would be very welcome.

Petr