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little hearing test

🔗Tom Dent <stringph@gmail.com>

4/9/2008 9:11:56 AM

By the way, I did a couple more home recordings -

http://www.thphys.uni-heidelberg.de/~dent/Byrds/

what temperaments are used, so far as you can hear?
~~~T~~~

🔗Magnus Jonsson <magnus@smartelectronix.com>

4/9/2008 9:35:01 AM

Thanks for this fun challenge, Tom. :)

I will bite. I tried to not overanalyze, so these are my first impressions:

nevelground1 : some meantone with slightly wider maj3 than 1/4 comma meantone. 1/6 comma meantone?

nevelground2 : 1/4 comma meantone

quipasse1 : Wide maj3s. 12 equal?

quipasse2 : 1/4 comma meantone

/ Magnus

On Wed, 9 Apr 2008, Tom Dent wrote:

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> By the way, I did a couple more home recordings -
>
> http://www.thphys.uni-heidelberg.de/~dent/Byrds/
>
> what temperaments are used, so far as you can hear?
> ~~~T~~~
>
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🔗George D. Secor <gdsecor@yahoo.com>

4/9/2008 11:06:20 AM

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Dent" <stringph@...> wrote:
>
>
> By the way, I did a couple more home recordings -
>
> http://www.thphys.uni-heidelberg.de/~dent/Byrds/
>
> what temperaments are used, so far as you can hear?
> ~~~T~~~

Nice!

I'd say that nevelground1.mp3 and quipasse1.mp3 are a well-
temperament of some sort, with the best triads (C and G major) very
close to 1/4-comma meantone. (Definitely not Werkmeister III -- the
G major triad is too good.)

These two, nevelground2.mp3 and quipasse2.mp3, sound like 1/4-comma
meantone.

--George

🔗Petr Parízek <p.parizek@chello.cz>

4/9/2008 11:06:38 AM

I'm guessing.
For both pieces, the first version sounds to me like a pretty strong well temperament (like Werckmeister III or something similar) and the second version is probably in some sort of meantone tuning -- I agree it could be quarter-comma.

Petr

🔗Petr Parízek <p.parizek@chello.cz>

4/9/2008 11:12:10 AM

PS: George is probably right, I'm also finding the G major suspiciously "sweet", having it heard two more times now.

Petr

🔗Carl Lumma <carl@lumma.org>

4/10/2008 12:30:05 AM

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Dent" <stringph@...> wrote:
>
> By the way, I did a couple more home recordings -
>
> http://www.thphys.uni-heidelberg.de/~dent/Byrds/
>
> what temperaments are used, so far as you can hear?
> ~~~T~~~

Your recordings are improving.

Nevel2 has purer triads. One guess would be it's
1/4-comma meantone, with nevel1 being a well temperament.

I suppose much the same is true of quipasse files.
The opening chord of quipasse1 is quite harsh.

-Carl