New music again

Hi there,

Okay, I'll just let you hear it. I believe this doesn't need any further explanation at all: http://download.yousendit.com/C8D74CF335427471

Petr

It gets better and better.

Oz.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Petr Pařízek" <p.parizek@chello.cz>
To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 15 Mart 2008 Cumartesi 18:23
Subject: [tuning] New music again

> Hi there,
>
> Okay, I'll just let you hear it. I believe this doesn't need any further
> explanation at all: http://download.yousendit.com/C8D74CF335427471
>
> Petr
>
>

Petr Pařízek wrote:
> Hi there,
> > Okay, I'll just let you hear it. I believe this doesn't need any further > explanation at all: http://download.yousendit.com/C8D74CF335427471
> > Petr

Quite an interesting departure! Mavila has a lot of nice features. I like the neutral seconds that split the minor third into equal parts, and the way that it acts almost as a mirror image of traditional harmony (you can substitute major for minor). You can also get an idea of the range of different moods with the two sections that use different modes of the basic 7-note scale.

I have to admit that I have a bit of a preference for tuning schemes like this that don't come very close to JI -- each of them has a kind of unique character and simplicity that appeals to me. The particular styles in this piece seem to be a good fit for the character of mavila tuning.

Herman wrote:

> Quite an interesting departure! Mavila has a lot of nice features. I
> like the neutral seconds that split the minor third into equal parts,
> and the way that it acts almost as a mirror image of traditional harmony
> (you can substitute major for minor).

Exactly. I began to think about something similar in 2004 when I first discovered your „Warped Canon“ page (a great webpage indeed, I still like it a lot), particularly the minor JI version of the piece. Two years later, I made a short piece of music for just the same experiment (i.e. retuning it to a scale where each cycle of 4 fifths consists of three chained 3/2 fifths and then one 64/45 diminished fifth). It was really nice to hear how a piece originally modulating from C major to E major then modulated from C minor to Eb minor and how G# changed to Gb. A while later, I made even more experiments and I eventually found myself making some sort of „odd tuning“ where 4/3 was replaced by 5/3, 5/4 was replaced by 7/5, and 2/1 by 3/1. And then I made another version of this where I replaced 5/4 with 5/3, 3/2 with 7/3, and 2/1 with 3/1. If you can decode Rar archives, I left it here in case you were interested: http://download.yousendit.com/9A5582B61BFFF8EE

Petr

PS: The MIDI files with names begining with C contain short chord progressions and cadences, the files with names starting M contain the music I was talking about.

Petr

I listened. Am I right in hearing that if "tonic" is
C is 1/1, then your "IV" chord (approximately "F")
is not based on a root on 4/3?

my ear has been wrong before...

pardon the mongrel or pidgin terminology...

--- Petr Pařízek <p.parizek@chello.cz> wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> Okay, I'll just let you hear it. I believe this
> doesn't need any further
> explanation at all:
> http://download.yousendit.com/C8D74CF335427471
>
> Petr
>
>
>

Caleb Morgan wrote:

> I listened. Am I right in hearing that if "tonic" is
> C is 1/1, then your "IV" chord (approximately "F")
> is not based on a root on 4/3?

The fourths in mavila are very wide -- in fact, so wide that if you stack three of them, you don't get a minor tenth but almost a major tenth. This makes major triads sound a bit like minor triads rather than major. And vice versa.

Petr

Very neat petr.

It seems (from what I hear) that mavila can represent traditional styles
very well in a strangely familiar way.

/mj

On Sat, 15 Mar 2008, [utf-8] Petr Pa?ízek wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> Okay, I'll just let you hear it. I believe this doesn't need any further
> explanation at all: http://download.yousendit.com/C8D74CF335427471
>
> Petr
>
>
>
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Cool. Thanks.

If this page is wrong, someone tell me:

http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:2bFPN617oVcJ:wiki.frath.net/Zireen_music+mavila+tuning&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=10&gl=us

Subjective reaction fwiw: It sounds a little exotic
or out-of-tune, *and* I like it, in part because of
the way you use it...

--- Petr Par�zek <p.parizek@chello.cz> wrote:

> Caleb Morgan wrote:
>
>
>
> > I listened. Am I right in hearing that if "tonic"
> is
> > C is 1/1, then your "IV" chord (approximately "F")
>
> > is not based on a root on 4/3?
>
>
>
> The fourths in mavila are very wide -- in fact, so
> wide that if you stack three of them, you don't get
> a minor tenth but almost a major tenth. This makes
> major triads sound a bit like minor triads rather
> than major. And vice versa.
>
>
>
> Petr
>
>
>
>
>