Re: [tuning] 48-tET and the modernist Turk's penchant of thinkingonly in terms of multiples of 12-tET

Brother Danny,

72-tET is even now implemented on Turkish qanuns whereas this guy suggests a
turn to 48. While both are duodecimal, the former surely excels over the
latter as a high prime limit JI device. It's simply backwardness to lower
the number of tones without improving or compensating for anything.

To my knowledge, there is no other 41-tone theory written on Turkihs Maqam
Music other than that of Karadeniz. I am thinking of writing a 41-EDO maqam
theory though.

Oz.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Danny Wier" <dawiertx@sbcglobal.net>
To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 08 Mart 2008 Cumartesi 1:32
Subject: Re: [tuning] 48-tET and the modernist Turk's penchant of
thinkingonly in terms of multiples of 12-tET

> Well if he insists on a multiple of 12, he might as well use 72-tet
> since it's so great in 11-limit. But he needs to renounce his
> duodecimism altogether.
>
> Has anyone written proposed a 41-tone theory besides Töre and Karadeniz?
> ~D.
>
> On Fri, 2008-03-07 at 14:09 +0200, Ozan Yarman wrote:
> > There is this guy who wrote a theory book on Turkish Maqam Music using
> > 48-EDO. Unfortunately, thinking in multiples of 12-tone equal
temperament is
> > a disease in Turkish music circles. Not only did he stoop so low as to
> > attempt to belittle my work on 79 MOS 159-tET during the congress
mentioned,
> > but he also made a ridiculous claim that anything smaller than a "comma"
(he
> > means 20-25 cents) will be "perceived as the same pitch" and that 79 MOS
> > 159-tET was meaningless and devoid of physical basis for that reason.
> >
> > I don't know about his hearing ability, but I can certainly discern a
> > difference of 2/3 Holdrian commas as indicating distinct pitches on my
> > qanun.
> >
> > Could 48-tET be preferred as an approximation to 11-limit JI when there
is a
> > much better 41-tET in the arsenal of the tuning enthusiast? In other
words,
> > what is so special about 48-tET?
> >
> > Oz.
>