Eid Mubarek and my doctorate dissertation

Greetings all,

May your eid be glorious this year. Here is my completed doctorate thesis:

http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/Ozan_Yarman_tez.pdf

Any comments and views are most welcome.

Cordially,
Oz.

Sevgili Ozan,

Kurban Bayramini kutlarken doktora tezinin son seklini almis olmasina cok memnun oldum. Iki bayrami bir arada yasiyorsun.

Tezin daha onceki safhalarini uzaktan izlemistim. Bu son seklini salim kafayla, sakin bir zamanda incelemek istiyorum. Sokaktaki adam olarak goruslerimi iletirim. Tabii arzu edersen.

Gozlerinden opuyorum.

Can

Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com> wrote:
Greetings all,

May your eid be glorious this year. Here is my completed doctorate thesis:

http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/Ozan_Yarman_tez.pdf

Any comments and views are most welcome.

Cordially,
Oz.

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Congratulations Ozan;

I found the history of enforced Europeanisation very enlightening.

It's good to see that you have managed to hunt down so much about the traditional practice, despite the "censorship" of the Ataturk (sp?) era.

Obviously many other people have also thought that the musical systems a society is exposed to have influence throughout the whole culture.

I trust that it will earn a solid PhD for Dr. Yarman;-)

Enjoy your Eid.

On Dec 20, 2007, at 5:51 AM, Ozan Yarman wrote:

> Greetings all,
>
> May your eid be glorious this year. Here is my completed doctorate > thesis:
>
> http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/Ozan_Yarman_tez.pdf
>
> Any comments and views are most welcome.
>
> Cordially,
> Oz.
>
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Hooray! And thank you, Ozan. I can't wait to read it.

-Carl

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Ozan Yarman" <ozanyarman@...> wrote:
>
> Greetings all,
>
> May your eid be glorious this year. Here is my completed
> doctorate thesis:
>
> http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/Ozan_Yarman_tez.pdf
>
> Any comments and views are most welcome.
>
> Cordially,
> Oz.
>

Thank you Charles, for your interest, sharp observations, and well wishes!

Cordially,
Oz.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Lucy" <lucy@harmonics.com>
To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 20 Aral�k 2007 Per�embe 19:25
Subject: Re: [tuning] Eid Mubarek and my doctorate dissertation

> Congratulations Ozan;
>
> I found the history of enforced Europeanisation very enlightening.
>
> It's good to see that you have managed to hunt down so much about the
> traditional practice, despite the "censorship" of the Ataturk (sp?) era.
>
> Obviously many other people have also thought that the musical systems
> a society is exposed to have influence throughout the whole culture.
>
> I trust that it will earn a solid PhD for Dr. Yarman;-)
>
> Enjoy your Eid.
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 20, 2007, at 5:51 AM, Ozan Yarman wrote:
>
> > Greetings all,
> >
> > May your eid be glorious this year. Here is my completed doctorate
> > thesis:
> >
> > http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/Ozan_Yarman_tez.pdf
> >
> > Any comments and views are most welcome.
> >
> > Cordially,
> > Oz.
> >
> >

Most appreciated dear colleague of mine!

Cordially,
Oz.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Lumma" <carl@lumma.org>
To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 20 Aral�k 2007 Per�embe 19:56
Subject: [tuning] Re: Eid Mubarek and my doctorate dissertation

> Hooray! And thank you, Ozan. I can't wait to read it.
>
> -Carl
>
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Ozan Yarman" <ozanyarman@...> wrote:
> >
> > Greetings all,
> >
> > May your eid be glorious this year. Here is my completed
> > doctorate thesis:
> >
> > http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/Ozan_Yarman_tez.pdf
> >
> > Any comments and views are most welcome.
> >
> > Cordially,
> > Oz.
> >
>
>

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Ozan Yarman" <ozanyarman@...> wrote:
>
> Greetings all,
>
> May your eid be glorious this year. Here is my completed doctorate
thesis:
>
> http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/Ozan_Yarman_tez.pdf
>
> Any comments and views are most welcome.

Ozan,

Congrats on this milestone achievement! When I have time, I would love
to read this.

I sent you a private email (to your Yahoo address) a few weeks ago...I
hadn't heard from you, so I figure you don't really check that
account, or haven't had tme, or you just ignored me :)

Anyway, when you get a moment,I'd love to chat with you--mainly about
an idea I had, and also, I wanted to ask you some questions about your
kanun, which is a remarkably beautiful instrument.

All best,
Aaron.

Hi Oz,

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Ozan Yarman" <ozanyarman@...> wrote:
>
> Greetings all,
>
> May your eid be glorious this year. Here is my completed
> doctorate thesis:
>
> http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/Ozan_Yarman_tez.pdf
>
> Any comments and views are most welcome.

Congratulations on completing it! I read the first few pages
and then took only a quick look at the rest, and can't wait
to find the time to really read it properly. Looks very
interesting ... and i loved the video of improvisations
on your qanun.

-monz

email: joemonz(AT)yahoo.com
http://tonalsoft.com/tonescape.aspx
Tonescape microtonal music software

Oz, may I add my heartfelt congratulations to you on the completion
of your "labor of love", which I am confident will come to be known
as a milestone in the theory of maqam music.

I've had a chance only to skip through and sample portions of it, but
I look forward to reading it in its entirety so that I may learn
about some of the many facets of the maqam tradition and your desire
to portray it in a more accurate way.

Thank you for sharing this with us, and I bid you God-speed.

--George Secor

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Ozan Yarman" <ozanyarman@...> wrote:
>
> Greetings all,
>
> May your eid be glorious this year. Here is my completed doctorate
thesis:
>
> http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/Ozan_Yarman_tez.pdf
>
> Any comments and views are most welcome.
>
> Cordially,
> Oz.
>

Hi Aaron,

My appreciation and thanks for your warm comments. Unfortunately I do not
look at my yahoo address. Can you send a copy of that message to
ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com? I'd be interested to chat with you.

Oz.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Aaron Krister Johnson" <aaron@akjmusic.com>
To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 21 Aral�k 2007 Cuma 19:19
Subject: [tuning] Re: Eid Mubarek and my doctorate dissertation

> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Ozan Yarman" <ozanyarman@...> wrote:
> >
> > Greetings all,
> >
> > May your eid be glorious this year. Here is my completed doctorate
> thesis:
> >
> > http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/Ozan_Yarman_tez.pdf
> >
> > Any comments and views are most welcome.
>
> Ozan,
>
> Congrats on this milestone achievement! When I have time, I would love
> to read this.
>
> I sent you a private email (to your Yahoo address) a few weeks ago...I
> hadn't heard from you, so I figure you don't really check that
> account, or haven't had tme, or you just ignored me :)
>
> Anyway, when you get a moment,I'd love to chat with you--mainly about
> an idea I had, and also, I wanted to ask you some questions about your
> kanun, which is a remarkably beautiful instrument.
>
> All best,
> Aaron.
>
>
>

Thank you monz!

But there are no videos of my qanun yet. Where did you find them?

Oz.

----- Original Message -----
From: "monz" <joemonz@yahoo.com>
To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 21 Aral�k 2007 Cuma 20:07
Subject: [tuning] Re: Eid Mubarek and my doctorate dissertation

> Hi Oz,
>
>
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Ozan Yarman" <ozanyarman@...> wrote:
> >
> > Greetings all,
> >
> > May your eid be glorious this year. Here is my completed
> > doctorate thesis:
> >
> > http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/Ozan_Yarman_tez.pdf
> >
> > Any comments and views are most welcome.
>
>
>
> Congratulations on completing it! I read the first few pages
> and then took only a quick look at the rest, and can't wait
> to find the time to really read it properly. Looks very
> interesting ... and i loved the video of improvisations
> on your qanun.
>
>
> -monz
>
> email: joemonz(AT)yahoo.com
> http://tonalsoft.com/tonescape.aspx
> Tonescape microtonal music software
>
>

George, I very much appreciate such heartfelt and encouraging words from a
developer and mastermind of Sagittal Notation.

Thank you immensely,
Oz.

----- Original Message -----
From: "George D. Secor" <gdsecor@yahoo.com>
To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 21 Aral�k 2007 Cuma 21:34
Subject: [tuning] Re: Eid Mubarek and my doctorate dissertation

>
> Oz, may I add my heartfelt congratulations to you on the completion
> of your "labor of love", which I am confident will come to be known
> as a milestone in the theory of maqam music.
>
> I've had a chance only to skip through and sample portions of it, but
> I look forward to reading it in its entirety so that I may learn
> about some of the many facets of the maqam tradition and your desire
> to portray it in a more accurate way.
>
> Thank you for sharing this with us, and I bid you God-speed.
>
> --George Secor
>
>
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Ozan Yarman" <ozanyarman@...> wrote:
> >
> > Greetings all,
> >
> > May your eid be glorious this year. Here is my completed doctorate
> thesis:
> >
> > http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/Ozan_Yarman_tez.pdf
> >
> > Any comments and views are most welcome.
> >
> > Cordially,
> > Oz.
> >
>
>

That is what I was wondering about.

Can Akkoc

Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com> wrote:
Thank you monz!

But there are no videos of my qanun yet. Where did you find them?

Oz.

----- Original Message -----
From: "monz"
To:
Sent: 21 Aral�k 2007 Cuma 20:07
Subject: [tuning] Re: Eid Mubarek and my doctorate dissertation

> Hi Oz,
>
>
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Ozan Yarman" wrote:
> >
> > Greetings all,
> >
> > May your eid be glorious this year. Here is my completed
> > doctorate thesis:
> >
> > http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/Ozan_Yarman_tez.pdf
> >
> > Any comments and views are most welcome.
>
>
>
> Congratulations on completing it! I read the first few pages
> and then took only a quick look at the rest, and can't wait
> to find the time to really read it properly. Looks very
> interesting ... and i loved the video of improvisations
> on your qanun.
>
>
> -monz
>
> email: joemonz(AT)yahoo.com
> http://tonalsoft.com/tonescape.aspx
> Tonescape microtonal music software
>
>

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Hi Oz,

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Ozan Yarman" <ozanyarman@...> wrote:
>
> Thank you monz!
>
> But there are no videos of my qanun yet. Where did you find them?

Oh ... i saw some videos of qanun improvisation on youtube,
but i suppose they must not have been *your* qanun.
I thought i remembered that they were ... my bad.

-monz

email: joemonz(AT)yahoo.com
http://tonalsoft.com/tonescape.aspx
Tonescape microtonal music software

Congratulations from me, too!
I hope to find the time to read it soon.
--
Hans Straub

Dear Hans, thank you very much!

Happy new year,
Oz.

----- Original Message -----
From: "hstraub64" <hstraub64@telesonique.net>
To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 22 Aral�k 2007 Cumartesi 12:27
Subject: [tuning] Re: Eid Mubarek and my doctorate dissertation

> Congratulations from me, too!
> I hope to find the time to read it soon.
> --
> Hans Straub
>

dear ozan

eyde you also mobarak , and very happy to see your doctorate
dissertation . it will be very useful for me.

Shaahin mohajeri , Tombak player and microtonalist

My web site <http://240edo.googlepages.com/>

My farsi page in harmonytalk <http://www.harmonytalk.com/mohajeri>

Thank you dear brother Shaahin.

Cordially,
Oz.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mohajeri Shahin
To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 25 Aralık 2007 Salı 12:17
Subject: [tuning] Re: Eid Mubarek and my doctorate dissertation

dear ozan

eyde you also mobarak , and very happy to see your doctorate dissertation . it will be very useful for me.

Shaahin mohajeri , Tombak player and microtonalist

My web site

My farsi page in harmonytalk

Ozan,

Congratulations on completing your doctoral
dissertation. Pray that it will be accepted!

I've had a quick look at it and I was impressed - will
you try to have it published?

If so, I'd like to buy a copy!

Mark Rankin

--- Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com> wrote:

> Thank you dear brother Shaahin.
>
> Cordially,
> Oz.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mohajeri Shahin
> To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: 25 Aral�k 2007 Sal� 12:17
> Subject: [tuning] Re: Eid Mubarek and my doctorate
> dissertation
>
>
> dear ozan
>
>
>
> eyde you also mobarak , and very happy to see your
> doctorate dissertation . it will be very useful for
> me.
>
>
>
> Shaahin mohajeri , Tombak player and microtonalist
>
>
>
> My web site
>
> My farsi page in harmonytalk
>
>
>

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Dear Mark,

You are most kind. By all means, you can have the PDF file printed and
binded for personal use. I don't know if it is proper to have it published,
but we'll see.

Cordially,
Oz.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Rankin" <markrankin95511@yahoo.com>
To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 25 Aral�k 2007 Sal� 20:03
Subject: Re: [tuning] Re: Eid Mubarek and my doctorate dissertation

> Ozan,
>
> Congratulations on completing your doctoral
> dissertation. Pray that it will be accepted!
>
> I've had a quick look at it and I was impressed - will
> you try to have it published?
>
> If so, I'd like to buy a copy!
>
> Mark Rankin
>
>

Ozan,

I meant that I would like to buy a copy of your
dissertation if and when you were to publish it in the
future as a bound book.

I don't know for sure, but I suspect that it would be
*improper* to bind and distribute a copy of it now,
especially if it has not yet been accepted by your
advisor.

The last thing that I would want to do would be to get
you in trouble!

Let's wait and see how things develop.

Mark

--- Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com> wrote:

> Dear Mark,
>
> You are most kind. By all means, you can have the
> PDF file printed and
> binded for personal use. I don't know if it is
> proper to have it published,
> but we'll see.
>
> Cordially,
> Oz.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Rankin" <markrankin95511@yahoo.com>
> To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: 25 Aral�k 2007 Sal� 20:03
> Subject: Re: [tuning] Re: Eid Mubarek and my
> doctorate dissertation
>
>
> > Ozan,
> >
> > Congratulations on completing your doctoral
> > dissertation. Pray that it will be accepted!
> >
> > I've had a quick look at it and I was impressed -
> will
> > you try to have it published?
> >
> > If so, I'd like to buy a copy!
> >
> > Mark Rankin
> >
> >
>
>
>
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Dear Mark, it would certainly be improper to distribute it at this stage,
but you can have a personal copy printed and binded at a local copier, I'm
sure. Why should such an action get me into any trouble at all? Certainly,
it would not be an academic work if experts like yourself did not find the
opportunity to criticize it. By all means, I encourage the reading of my
thesis so that I am made aware of any mistakes that eluded me.

If it comes to publishing and selling it, I shall not hesitate to announce.

Cordially,
Oz.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Rankin" <markrankin95511@yahoo.com>
To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 26 Aral�k 2007 �ar�amba 5:26
Subject: Re: [tuning] Re: Eid Mubarek and my doctorate dissertation

> Ozan,
>
> I meant that I would like to buy a copy of your
> dissertation if and when you were to publish it in the
> future as a bound book.
>
> I don't know for sure, but I suspect that it would be
> *improper* to bind and distribute a copy of it now,
> especially if it has not yet been accepted by your
> advisor.
>
> The last thing that I would want to do would be to get
> you in trouble!
>
> Let's wait and see how things develop.
>
> Mark
>
>
> --- Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear Mark,
> >
> > You are most kind. By all means, you can have the
> > PDF file printed and
> > binded for personal use. I don't know if it is
> > proper to have it published,
> > but we'll see.
> >
> > Cordially,
> > Oz.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mark Rankin" <markrankin95511@yahoo.com>
> > To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: 25 Aral�k 2007 Sal� 20:03
> > Subject: Re: [tuning] Re: Eid Mubarek and my
> > doctorate dissertation
> >
> >
> > > Ozan,
> > >
> > > Congratulations on completing your doctoral
> > > dissertation. Pray that it will be accepted!
> > >
> > > I've had a quick look at it and I was impressed -
> > will
> > > you try to have it published?
> > >
> > > If so, I'd like to buy a copy!
> > >
> > > Mark Rankin
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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Ozan,

Having a copy of someone's dissertation printed and
bound and given (or sold) to anyone other than it's
author would be considered a form of distribution
where I live (U.S.A.). Right after you typed the
words "Dear Mark" below you stated that "it would
certainly be improper to distribute it at this stage".

You followed that statement with "but...".

In the english-speaking world there is an expression
or 'figure of speech' that is used to stop someone,
say a student, who wants to stretch the rules or the
law by, for example, distributing his dissertation
before it has been accepted by his advisor. The
english expression goes like this:

"No and's, if's, or but's!"

A few days ago you mentioned that you had completed
your dissertation. I wish only the best for you. The
question that now arises in my mind is: 'Has your
advisor accepted your dissertation yet'? Until then,
I would tread carefully.

Mark

--- Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com> wrote:

> Dear Mark, it would certainly be improper to
> distribute it at this stage,
> but you can have a personal copy printed and binded
> at a local copier, I'm
> sure. Why should such an action get me into any
> trouble at all? Certainly,
> it would not be an academic work if experts like
> yourself did not find the
> opportunity to criticize it. By all means, I
> encourage the reading of my
> thesis so that I am made aware of any mistakes that
> eluded me.
>
> If it comes to publishing and selling it, I shall
> not hesitate to announce.
>
> Cordially,
> Oz.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Rankin" <markrankin95511@yahoo.com>
> To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: 26 Aral�k 2007 �ar�amba 5:26
> Subject: Re: [tuning] Re: Eid Mubarek and my
> doctorate dissertation
>
>
> > Ozan,
> >
> > I meant that I would like to buy a copy of your
> > dissertation if and when you were to publish it in
> the
> > future as a bound book.
> >
> > I don't know for sure, but I suspect that it would
> be
> > *improper* to bind and distribute a copy of it
> now,
> > especially if it has not yet been accepted by your
> > advisor.
> >
> > The last thing that I would want to do would be to
> get
> > you in trouble!
> >
> > Let's wait and see how things develop.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> > --- Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Mark,
> > >
> > > You are most kind. By all means, you can have
> the
> > > PDF file printed and
> > > binded for personal use. I don't know if it is
> > > proper to have it published,
> > > but we'll see.
> > >
> > > Cordially,
> > > Oz.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Mark Rankin" <markrankin95511@yahoo.com>
> > > To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: 25 Aral�k 2007 Sal� 20:03
> > > Subject: Re: [tuning] Re: Eid Mubarek and my
> > > doctorate dissertation
> > >
> > >
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Mark,

I have officially submitted my doctorate dissertation to the musicology
department (consequently, to my advisor and jury) for the defense. If this
is what you mean by 'has your advisor accepted your dissertation yet'? then
my answer is yes. The thesis is bound and ready for the defense. This
version comprises the last and conclusive changes requested by the examining
committee. Now would be a good time to make use of the already distributed
PDF file, so that I am made aware of any mistakes which I have missed, so
that I can integrate them to the final hardback edition to be submitted to
the university senate for approval and my doctorate degree.

My apologies for the confusion. I am awful with the English language.

Cordially,
Oz.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Rankin" <markrankin95511@yahoo.com>
To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 26 Aral�k 2007 �ar�amba 8:56
Subject: Re: [tuning] Re: Eid Mubarek and my doctorate dissertation

> Ozan,
>
> Having a copy of someone's dissertation printed and
> bound and given (or sold) to anyone other than it's
> author would be considered a form of distribution
> where I live (U.S.A.). Right after you typed the
> words "Dear Mark" below you stated that "it would
> certainly be improper to distribute it at this stage".
>
> You followed that statement with "but...".
>
> In the english-speaking world there is an expression
> or 'figure of speech' that is used to stop someone,
> say a student, who wants to stretch the rules or the
> law by, for example, distributing his dissertation
> before it has been accepted by his advisor. The
> english expression goes like this:
>
> "No and's, if's, or but's!"
>
> A few days ago you mentioned that you had completed
> your dissertation. I wish only the best for you. The
> question that now arises in my mind is: 'Has your
> advisor accepted your dissertation yet'? Until then,
> I would tread carefully.
>
> Mark
>
> --- Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear Mark, it would certainly be improper to
> > distribute it at this stage,
> > but you can have a personal copy printed and binded
> > at a local copier, I'm
> > sure. Why should such an action get me into any
> > trouble at all? Certainly,
> > it would not be an academic work if experts like
> > yourself did not find the
> > opportunity to criticize it. By all means, I
> > encourage the reading of my
> > thesis so that I am made aware of any mistakes that
> > eluded me.
> >
> > If it comes to publishing and selling it, I shall
> > not hesitate to announce.
> >
> > Cordially,
> > Oz.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mark Rankin" <markrankin95511@yahoo.com>
> > To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: 26 Aral�k 2007 �ar�amba 5:26
> > Subject: Re: [tuning] Re: Eid Mubarek and my
> > doctorate dissertation
> >
> >
> > > Ozan,
> > >
> > > I meant that I would like to buy a copy of your
> > > dissertation if and when you were to publish it in
> > the
> > > future as a bound book.
> > >
> > > I don't know for sure, but I suspect that it would
> > be
> > > *improper* to bind and distribute a copy of it
> > now,
> > > especially if it has not yet been accepted by your
> > > advisor.
> > >
> > > The last thing that I would want to do would be to
> > get
> > > you in trouble!
> > >
> > > Let's wait and see how things develop.
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dear Mark,
> > > >
> > > > You are most kind. By all means, you can have
> > the
> > > > PDF file printed and
> > > > binded for personal use. I don't know if it is
> > > > proper to have it published,
> > > > but we'll see.
> > > >
> > > > Cordially,
> > > > Oz.
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Mark Rankin" <markrankin95511@yahoo.com>
> > > > To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: 25 Aral�k 2007 Sal� 20:03
> > > > Subject: Re: [tuning] Re: Eid Mubarek and my
> > > > doctorate dissertation
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Ozan,
> > > > >
> > > > > Congratulations on completing your doctoral
> > > > > dissertation. Pray that it will be accepted!
> > > > >
> > > > > I've had a quick look at it and I was
> > impressed -
> > > > will
> > > > > you try to have it published?
> > > > >
> > > > > If so, I'd like to buy a copy!
> > > > >
> > > > > Mark Rankin
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Ozan my cordial friend, your grasp of the english
language leaves most native born *english speakers* in
the dust! I know, because I've edited papers written
by english speakers. In fact, last night after I had
sent my last email to you, I edited the prologue of a
physics paper that was written by a native english
speaker who is a very good friend of mine: one of the
paragraphs he wrote needed four improvements!

The reason I asked if your advisor had *accepted your
dissertation yet* is very simple. The friend of
everyone on the Tuning List, Johnny Reinhard, had the
following thing happen to him twenty years ago at
Columbia University in New York City, back in the
early days of modern microtonality (Johnny, correct me
if I'm wrong):

Johnny received the O.K. from his advisor to write a
Masters Thesis on microtonal music. Like any aspiring
student, he put alot of time and energy into writing
his Thesis.

When the time came, he *submitted* his thesis, only to
have the Head of the Music Department *over-ride his
advisor* and *reject* his Thesis, a sequence of events
that in Academia is *not supposed to happen*!!

Johnny was disgusted. He left. To hell with the
Music Department at Columbia University!! For over
twenty years now Johnny Reinhard has been tireless.
He refused to give up. From a poor family and having
no money of his own, he worked hard, organized New
York's microtonalists, solicited donations and, by the
power of his personality and force of his convictions
he founded the American Festival of Microtonal Music.
He has gone on to become the guiding light of
microtonal music in New York, in the United States,
and in most of the western world.
He's one of my heros.

Ozan, I am glad to know that you have officially
submitted your doctorate dissertation, and that the
last official step will be to receive approval from
the University Senate.

I wish I had time to edit your dissertation, but that
would be a major project, and right now I'm behind
schedule with my interchangeable fretboard hobby
business, and I've just received notice that I must
serve Jury Duty for the entire month of January.

In February and March I might have some free time, but
I will be going to spend six weeks in California at
some point. It looks to me like I won't be able to
help you now, when you are looking for mistakes in
your dissertation before it receives approval from the
University Senate, but I may be able to help you
later, if the dissertation will someday be published
in book form.

All the best,

Mark

--- Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com> wrote:

> Mark,
>
> I have officially submitted my doctorate
> dissertation to the musicology
> department (consequently, to my advisor and jury)
> for the defense. If this
> is what you mean by 'has your advisor accepted your
> dissertation yet'? then
> my answer is yes. The thesis is bound and ready for
> the defense. This
> version comprises the last and conclusive changes
> requested by the examining
> committee. Now would be a good time to make use of
> the already distributed
> PDF file, so that I am made aware of any mistakes
> which I have missed, so
> that I can integrate them to the final hardback
> edition to be submitted to
> the university senate for approval and my doctorate
> degree.
>
> My apologies for the confusion. I am awful with the
> English language.
>
> Cordially,
> Oz.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Rankin" <markrankin95511@yahoo.com>
> To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: 26 Aral�k 2007 �ar�amba 8:56
> Subject: Re: [tuning] Re: Eid Mubarek and my
> doctorate dissertation
>
>
> > Ozan,
> >
> > Having a copy of someone's dissertation printed
> and
> > bound and given (or sold) to anyone other than
> it's
> > author would be considered a form of distribution
> > where I live (U.S.A.). Right after you typed the
> > words "Dear Mark" below you stated that "it would
> > certainly be improper to distribute it at this
> stage".
> >
> > You followed that statement with "but...".
> >
> > In the english-speaking world there is an
> expression
> > or 'figure of speech' that is used to stop
> someone,
> > say a student, who wants to stretch the rules or
> the
> > law by, for example, distributing his dissertation
> > before it has been accepted by his advisor. The
> > english expression goes like this:
> >
> > "No and's, if's, or but's!"
> >
> > A few days ago you mentioned that you had
> completed
> > your dissertation. I wish only the best for you.
> The
> > question that now arises in my mind is: 'Has your
> > advisor accepted your dissertation yet'? Until
> then,
> > I would tread carefully.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > --- Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Mark, it would certainly be improper to
> > > distribute it at this stage,
> > > but you can have a personal copy printed and
> binded
> > > at a local copier, I'm
> > > sure. Why should such an action get me into any
> > > trouble at all? Certainly,
> > > it would not be an academic work if experts like
> > > yourself did not find the
> > > opportunity to criticize it. By all means, I
> > > encourage the reading of my
> > > thesis so that I am made aware of any mistakes
> that
> > > eluded me.
> > >
> > > If it comes to publishing and selling it, I
> shall
> > > not hesitate to announce.
> > >
> > > Cordially,
> > > Oz.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Mark Rankin" <markrankin95511@yahoo.com>
> > > To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: 26 Aral�k 2007 �ar�amba 5:26
> > > Subject: Re: [tuning] Re: Eid Mubarek and my
> > > doctorate dissertation
> > >
> > >
> > > > Ozan,
> > > >
> > > > I meant that I would like to buy a copy of
> your
> > > > dissertation if and when you were to publish
> it in
> > > the
> > > > future as a bound book.
> > > >
> > > > I don't know for sure, but I suspect that it
> would
> > > be
> > > > *improper* to bind and distribute a copy of it
> > > now,
> > > > especially if it has not yet been accepted by
> your
> > > > advisor.
> > > >
> > > > The last thing that I would want to do would
> be to
> > > get
> > > > you in trouble!
> > > >
> > > > Let's wait and see how things develop.
> > > >
> > > > Mark
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Dear Mark,
> > > > >
> > > > > You are most kind. By all means, you can
> have
> > > the
> > > > > PDF file printed and
> > > > > binded for personal use. I don't know if it
> is
> > > > > proper to have it published,
> > > > > but we'll see.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cordially,
> > > > > Oz.
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Mark Rankin"
> <markrankin95511@yahoo.com>
> > > > > To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Sent: 25 Aral�k 2007 Sal� 20:03
> > > > > Subject: Re: [tuning] Re: Eid Mubarek and my
> > > > > doctorate dissertation
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Ozan,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Congratulations on completing your
> doctoral
> > > > > > dissertation. Pray that it will be
> accepted!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've had a quick look at it and I was
> > > impressed -
> > > > > will
> > > > > > you try to have it published?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If so, I'd like to buy a copy!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mark Rankin
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> sending
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My dear and venerable colleague Mark,

I am most relieved that you think my command of the English language is
adequate. I trust then, that you will find my dissertation to be a
fulfilling read.

As much as I sympathize with the plight of our good Johnny Reinhard, my
situation is nothing like what you describe. Misery for he who chose to
slight the achievements of a microtonalist! Kudos for Johnny. Fortunately,
it so happens that my chief advisor is also the head of the musicology
department.

Sad to hear that you will not be able to contribute at this point. If it
comes to publishing this work, I will surely request your assistance for
serious editorship.

Cordially,
Oz.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Rankin" <markrankin95511@yahoo.com>
To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 27 Aral�k 2007 Per�embe 1:02
Subject: Re: [tuning] Re: Eid Mubarek and my doctorate dissertation

> Ozan my cordial friend, your grasp of the english
> language leaves most native born *english speakers* in
> the dust! I know, because I've edited papers written
> by english speakers. In fact, last night after I had
> sent my last email to you, I edited the prologue of a
> physics paper that was written by a native english
> speaker who is a very good friend of mine: one of the
> paragraphs he wrote needed four improvements!
>
> The reason I asked if your advisor had *accepted your
> dissertation yet* is very simple. The friend of
> everyone on the Tuning List, Johnny Reinhard, had the
> following thing happen to him twenty years ago at
> Columbia University in New York City, back in the
> early days of modern microtonality (Johnny, correct me
> if I'm wrong):
>
> Johnny received the O.K. from his advisor to write a
> Masters Thesis on microtonal music. Like any aspiring
> student, he put alot of time and energy into writing
> his Thesis.
>
> When the time came, he *submitted* his thesis, only to
> have the Head of the Music Department *over-ride his
> advisor* and *reject* his Thesis, a sequence of events
> that in Academia is *not supposed to happen*!!
>
> Johnny was disgusted. He left. To hell with the
> Music Department at Columbia University!! For over
> twenty years now Johnny Reinhard has been tireless.
> He refused to give up. From a poor family and having
> no money of his own, he worked hard, organized New
> York's microtonalists, solicited donations and, by the
> power of his personality and force of his convictions
> he founded the American Festival of Microtonal Music.
> He has gone on to become the guiding light of
> microtonal music in New York, in the United States,
> and in most of the western world.
> He's one of my heros.
>
> Ozan, I am glad to know that you have officially
> submitted your doctorate dissertation, and that the
> last official step will be to receive approval from
> the University Senate.
>
> I wish I had time to edit your dissertation, but that
> would be a major project, and right now I'm behind
> schedule with my interchangeable fretboard hobby
> business, and I've just received notice that I must
> serve Jury Duty for the entire month of January.
>
> In February and March I might have some free time, but
> I will be going to spend six weeks in California at
> some point. It looks to me like I won't be able to
> help you now, when you are looking for mistakes in
> your dissertation before it receives approval from the
> University Senate, but I may be able to help you
> later, if the dissertation will someday be published
> in book form.
>
> All the best,
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com> wrote:
>
> > Mark,
> >
> > I have officially submitted my doctorate
> > dissertation to the musicology
> > department (consequently, to my advisor and jury)
> > for the defense. If this
> > is what you mean by 'has your advisor accepted your
> > dissertation yet'? then
> > my answer is yes. The thesis is bound and ready for
> > the defense. This
> > version comprises the last and conclusive changes
> > requested by the examining
> > committee. Now would be a good time to make use of
> > the already distributed
> > PDF file, so that I am made aware of any mistakes
> > which I have missed, so
> > that I can integrate them to the final hardback
> > edition to be submitted to
> > the university senate for approval and my doctorate
> > degree.
> >
> > My apologies for the confusion. I am awful with the
> > English language.
> >
> > Cordially,
> > Oz.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mark Rankin" <markrankin95511@yahoo.com>
> > To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: 26 Aral�k 2007 �ar�amba 8:56
> > Subject: Re: [tuning] Re: Eid Mubarek and my
> > doctorate dissertation
> >
> >
> > > Ozan,
> > >
> > > Having a copy of someone's dissertation printed
> > and
> > > bound and given (or sold) to anyone other than
> > it's
> > > author would be considered a form of distribution
> > > where I live (U.S.A.). Right after you typed the
> > > words "Dear Mark" below you stated that "it would
> > > certainly be improper to distribute it at this
> > stage".
> > >
> > > You followed that statement with "but...".
> > >
> > > In the english-speaking world there is an
> > expression
> > > or 'figure of speech' that is used to stop
> > someone,
> > > say a student, who wants to stretch the rules or
> > the
> > > law by, for example, distributing his dissertation
> > > before it has been accepted by his advisor. The
> > > english expression goes like this:
> > >
> > > "No and's, if's, or but's!"
> > >
> > > A few days ago you mentioned that you had
> > completed
> > > your dissertation. I wish only the best for you.
> > The
> > > question that now arises in my mind is: 'Has your
> > > advisor accepted your dissertation yet'? Until
> > then,
> > > I would tread carefully.
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > --- Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dear Mark, it would certainly be improper to
> > > > distribute it at this stage,
> > > > but you can have a personal copy printed and
> > binded
> > > > at a local copier, I'm
> > > > sure. Why should such an action get me into any
> > > > trouble at all? Certainly,
> > > > it would not be an academic work if experts like
> > > > yourself did not find the
> > > > opportunity to criticize it. By all means, I
> > > > encourage the reading of my
> > > > thesis so that I am made aware of any mistakes
> > that
> > > > eluded me.
> > > >
> > > > If it comes to publishing and selling it, I
> > shall
> > > > not hesitate to announce.
> > > >
> > > > Cordially,
> > > > Oz.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Mark Rankin" <markrankin95511@yahoo.com>
> > > > To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: 26 Aral�k 2007 �ar�amba 5:26
> > > > Subject: Re: [tuning] Re: Eid Mubarek and my
> > > > doctorate dissertation
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Ozan,
> > > > >
> > > > > I meant that I would like to buy a copy of
> > your
> > > > > dissertation if and when you were to publish
> > it in
> > > > the
> > > > > future as a bound book.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know for sure, but I suspect that it
> > would
> > > > be
> > > > > *improper* to bind and distribute a copy of it
> > > > now,
> > > > > especially if it has not yet been accepted by
> > your
> > > > > advisor.
> > > > >
> > > > > The last thing that I would want to do would
> > be to
> > > > get
> > > > > you in trouble!
> > > > >
> > > > > Let's wait and see how things develop.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mark
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Dear Mark,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You are most kind. By all means, you can
> > have
> > > > the
> > > > > > PDF file printed and
> > > > > > binded for personal use. I don't know if it
> > is
> > > > > > proper to have it published,
> > > > > > but we'll see.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cordially,
> > > > > > Oz.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Mark Rankin"
> > <markrankin95511@yahoo.com>
> > > > > > To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > Sent: 25 Aral�k 2007 Sal� 20:03
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [tuning] Re: Eid Mubarek and my
> > > > > > doctorate dissertation
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ozan,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Congratulations on completing your
> > doctoral
> > > > > > > dissertation. Pray that it will be
> > accepted!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've had a quick look at it and I was
> > > > impressed -
> > > > > > will
> > > > > > > you try to have it published?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If so, I'd like to buy a copy!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mark Rankin
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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