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Bering Strait/Eskimos

🔗microstick@msn.com

10/19/2007 2:54:03 PM

Hey gang, not trying to start a thread, but...Paul Poletti, you mentioned, in a somewhat patronizing way, a comparison between the Eskimos view of their origins, and the "scientific" version, which has Indians coming over the Bering Strait. The Bering Strait myth is a very popular theory, but it has never been proven, and can never be proven. If you are interested, there's a great book by Vine Deloria Jr, "Red Earth, White Lies," which very intelligently (and with great humor), takes a look at the Bering mythology, and wipes it out (along with a lot of other silly "scientific" myths). I kind of like Indian mythology, there's a lot of great truths in there, but you gotta leave the typical white guy way of thinking behind before you can get the wisdom...best...Hstick
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🔗Carl Lumma <carl@lumma.org>

10/20/2007 10:34:38 AM

Hi Neil,

Actually, I haven't followed the latest opinion on this,
but my view has been that there may have been a land bridge,
but it was hardly necessary for human migration to the
New World, which had probably been happenning by boat for
thousands of years by the time the proposed land bridge
migration took place.

-Carl

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, <microstick@...> wrote:
>
> Hey gang, not trying to start a thread, but...Paul Poletti,
> you mentioned, in a somewhat patronizing way, a comparison between
> the Eskimos view of their origins, and the "scientific" version,
> which has Indians coming over the Bering Strait. The Bering Strait
> myth is a very popular theory, but it has never been proven, and
> can never be proven. If you are interested, there's a great book
> by Vine Deloria Jr, "Red Earth, White Lies," which very
> intelligently (and with great humor), takes a look at the Bering
> mythology, and wipes it out (along with a lot of other
> silly "scientific" myths). I kind of like Indian mythology, there's
> a lot of great truths in there, but you gotta leave the typical
> white guy way of thinking behind before you can get the
> wisdom...best...Hstick
> myspace.com/microstick guitar9.com

🔗Mark Rankin <markrankin95511@yahoo.com>

10/20/2007 10:47:40 AM

The books I've read agree with Carl

Mark

--- Carl Lumma <carl@lumma.org> wrote:

> Hi Neil,
>
> Actually, I haven't followed the latest opinion on
> this,
> but my view has been that there may have been a land
> bridge,
> but it was hardly necessary for human migration to
> the
> New World, which had probably been happenning by
> boat for
> thousands of years by the time the proposed land
> bridge
> migration took place.
>
> -Carl
>
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, <microstick@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hey gang, not trying to start a thread,
> but...Paul Poletti,
> > you mentioned, in a somewhat patronizing way, a
> comparison between
> > the Eskimos view of their origins, and the
> "scientific" version,
> > which has Indians coming over the Bering Strait.
> The Bering Strait
> > myth is a very popular theory, but it has never
> been proven, and
> > can never be proven. If you are interested,
> there's a great book
> > by Vine Deloria Jr, "Red Earth, White Lies," which
> very
> > intelligently (and with great humor), takes a look
> at the Bering
> > mythology, and wipes it out (along with a lot of
> other
> > silly "scientific" myths). I kind of like Indian
> mythology, there's
> > a lot of great truths in there, but you gotta
> leave the typical
> > white guy way of thinking behind before you can
> get the
> > wisdom...best...Hstick
> > myspace.com/microstick guitar9.com
>
>
>

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🔗Paul Poletti <paul@polettipiano.com>

10/20/2007 3:56:03 PM

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Lumma" <carl@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Neil,
>
> Actually, I haven't followed the latest opinion on this,
> but my view has been that there may have been a land bridge,
> but it was hardly necessary for human migration to the
> New World, which had probably been happenning by boat for
> thousands of years by the time the proposed land bridge
> migration took place.

This page pretty well sums up all the latest theories based both upon
archeology and DNA:

http://www.si.edu/Encyclopedia_SI/nmnh/origin.htm

>
> -Carl
>
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, <microstick@> wrote:
> >
> > Hey gang, not trying to start a thread, but...Paul Poletti,
> > you mentioned, in a somewhat patronizing way

My intent was not to patronize, only to draw a difference between
science and mythology, a division which the theories of "history" I
was deriding see no need to make. I have nothing against any people's
creation myths, but if I want to know were native American peoples
really did come from, I put my trust in science and not imaginative
story telling. I place no more factual stock in stories about Polar
Bear or Coyote than I do about God making man out of clay and woman
out of his rib - nil. Truth be told, I enjoy native American mythology
far more than that boring, often violent, and humorless
Judeo-Christian stuff. Love the one about coyote eating the fart
berries! And the one about coyote trying to getting his dead wife back
from the wigwam of the moon is a brilliant combination of Orpheo and
Pandora's Box. Best support for Jung's archetypes I know!

Ciao,

P