Yahoo Tuning Groups Ultimate Backup tuning Re: [tuning] Re: very low note from Perseus cluster - Guy Murchie

Dear Oz,

You have injected your religion, and I believe it is unwarranted. Charles
has every right to write what he feels, as you often do at the drop of a hat.
Threatening, even tongue in cheek, is uncalled for.

Let us all be clear, We have different belief systems and religions on this
list. We intend only respect for each other as we speak about our particular
points of view. It truly goes to the heart of how we may define things, as
we must first define our sense of reality.

Johnny

Oz wrote: This is hardly the place to announce one's regard of other
people's faiths. If you heard my sincere opinion about your ideas, you would surely
be appalled.

So, do not court with disaster.

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Calling religiosity a "psychiatric condition" is hardly respectful to what a believer holds dear, my adamant Johnny. It implies that we of various creeds, including (not surprisingly) yourself, are cases for shrinks. Now, that is totally uncalled for, and outside the mission of this group.

I usually have a rule not to barge in on what other people believe in at a place like this, and I expect reciprocation. I am certain the majority feels the same.

If I were to ridicule a member's, say, atheistic credo by stating that it was the position of illiterate ignorants, would that be acceptable in light of freedom of speech? Besides, what purpose does it serve other than needlessly irritate souls?

This is the tuning list. If you want to ejaculate, taunt and tease someone because of his/her religion, write to his/her private e-mail. Or invite him/her to another platform dedicated to such.

Moderators?

Oz.
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Sent: 29 Eylül 2007 Cumartesi 5:28
Subject: Re: [tuning] Re: very low note from Perseus cluster - Guy Murchie - Music of The

Dear Oz,

You have injected your religion, and I believe it is unwarranted. Charles has every right to write what he feels, as you often do at the drop of a hat. Threatening, even tongue in cheek, is uncalled for.

Let us all be clear, We have different belief systems and religions on this list. We intend only respect for each other as we speak about our particular points of view. It truly goes to the heart of how we may define things, as we must first define our sense of reality.

Johnny

Oz wrote: This is hardly the place to announce one's regard of other people's faiths. If you heard my sincere opinion about your ideas, you would surely be appalled.

So, do not court with disaster.

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🔗Charles Lucy <lucy@harmonics.com>

Hi Oz;

Let's not have a flame war about this.

My comments on the list re. religion were in response to someone who
had posted here suggesting that my interest in musical tuning was
influenced by my religious point of view.

This reminded me of an interview that I had done on BBC Radio 4 a
couple of years ago.

The interview is linked here:

http://www.lucytune.com/mp3/OutOfTune2.mp3

This interview and the musical examples were recorded in our flat in
London, and whilst the presenters were here, my wife (who is a
Catholic) commented that John Harrison was devoutly religious.

(BTW Harrison also wrote very disparagingly about clerics in a couple
of his books and manuscripts - see the transcriptions).

That Harrison was very religious was announced by the presenter which
made it sound as though my interest in Harrison was also in some way
religious.

This was/is/prolly never will be the case; my interest was/is only
musical and scientific, yet the BBC audience could have been misled
due the presenter regurgitating my wife's comments at the time.

Having had this unfortunate experience with people suggesting that I
had a religious motive, when I saw the comment on the list today I
responded to clarify that I have no religious affiliation,

and to state my own perspective and prejudices about religion.

Although I fail to believe in any particular religion, nevertheless I
appreciate the cultural, ethical and moral influences which religious
organisations and beliefs have had and continue to have on

human societies and consciousness.

So let's not argue about religion - frankly I find the whole subject
of religion boring.

Vive peace and harmony ;-)

Charles Lucy lucy@lucytune.com

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On 29 Sep 2007, at 04:13, Ozan Yarman wrote:

>
> Calling religiosity a "psychiatric condition" is hardly respectful
> to what a believer holds dear, my adamant Johnny. It implies that
> we of various creeds, including (not surprisingly) yourself, are
> cases for shrinks. Now, that is totally uncalled for, and outside
> the mission of this group.
>
> I usually have a rule not to barge in on what other people believe
> in at a place like this, and I expect reciprocation. I am certain
> the majority feels the same.
>
> If I were to ridicule a member's, say, atheistic credo by stating
> that it was the position of illiterate ignorants, would that be
> acceptable in light of freedom of speech? Besides, what purpose
> does it serve other than needlessly irritate souls?
>
> This is the tuning list. If you want to ejaculate, taunt and tease
> someone because of his/her religion, write to his/her private e-
> mail. Or invite him/her to another platform dedicated to such.
>
> Moderators?
>
> Oz.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Afmmjr@aol.com
> To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: 29 Eylül 2007 Cumartesi 5:28
> Subject: Re: [tuning] Re: very low note from Perseus cluster - Guy
> Murchie - Music of The
>
> Dear Oz,
>
> You have injected your religion, and I believe it is unwarranted.
> Charles has every right to write what he feels, as you often do at
> the drop of a hat. Threatening, even tongue in cheek, is uncalled
> for.
>
> Let us all be clear, We have different belief systems and religions
> on this list. We intend only respect for each other as we speak
> about our particular points of view. It truly goes to the heart of
> how we may define things, as we must first define our sense of
> reality.
>
> Johnny
>
>
>
> Oz wrote: This is hardly the place to announce one's regard of
> other people's faiths. If you heard my sincere opinion about your
> ideas, you would surely be appalled.
>
> So, do not court with disaster.
>
>
>
>
> See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.
>
>

Re: [tuning] Re: very low note from Perseus cluster - Guy Murchie - Music of The

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