Of lists and lists...

O Composers of the New Microtonal Musics!

Damn, it seems only a few short years ago when three of us, fed up
with the unending blather on the main tuning list, formed Making
Microtonal Music (and to be completely clear, it had a precursor in a
list by another maestro of music). And with very similar aims to the
ones I've seen mentioned today, albeit a little less harsh.

I did what I could to restrict the discussions to the actual music and
it's creative materials, but it *is* a slippery slope. Your idea of
restricting membership to Actual Content Creators is admirable, but I
also am quick to point out that many Creators that I've drawn a lot of
inspiration from over the decades wouldn't meet your quotas of
creation. Mores the pity.

I wish you well. I would hope you would make the list publicly
viewable (and listenable) even for those who can't always put up a
pre-requisite number of microtonal pieces in a given period. And if
you somehow find a magic bullet for reducing the noise in the signal,
please post at least a flow chart. More valuable it will be than a
thousand matrices, I say.

Love,
Jon

yes Jon , i remember it well. possibly only a music posting list only would be the only way it can work with description of the piece.
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Alas, I think you are right Jon, it's all in vain.......if MMM couldn't do it, it was a proof of concept that failed.

Best,
A.

Ironic isn't it----there's tuning (aka tuning-math lite, or why my tuning (temperament) is better than your tuning (temperament)), tuning-math (aka wedgie-fest), metatuning (aka I'm correct and smarter than you about physics, astrophysics, politics, humor, philosophy, evolutionary theory, semiotics....), MMM (aka Cubase-howto), and no list about and for what to do with all of this stuff, because that's a 'gestapo' way of thinking.

:)

Best,
Aaron

Jon Szanto wrote:
> O Composers of the New Microtonal Musics!
>
> Damn, it seems only a few short years ago when three of us, fed up
> with the unending blather on the main tuning list, formed Making
> Microtonal Music (and to be completely clear, it had a precursor in a
> list by another maestro of music). And with very similar aims to the
> ones I've seen mentioned today, albeit a little less harsh.
>
> I did what I could to restrict the discussions to the actual music and
> it's creative materials, but it *is* a slippery slope. Your idea of
> restricting membership to Actual Content Creators is admirable, but I
> also am quick to point out that many Creators that I've drawn a lot of
> inspiration from over the decades wouldn't meet your quotas of
> creation. Mores the pity.
>
> I wish you well. I would hope you would make the list publicly
> viewable (and listenable) even for those who can't always put up a
> pre-requisite number of microtonal pieces in a given period. And if
> you somehow find a magic bullet for reducing the noise in the signal,
> please post at least a flow chart. More valuable it will be than a
> thousand matrices, I say.
>
> Love,
> Jon
>

Hi Aaron,

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron K. Johnson" <aaron@...> wrote:
>
> Alas, I think you are right Jon, it's all in vain.......if MMM couldn't
> do it, it was a proof of concept that failed.

Well, to be fair it only really failed on some subset - the initial
goal was also to discuss *how* to make that microtonal music. Being
that the list started somewhere around 6 years ago, for those that
wanted to utilize synths and computers and whatnot, it was a good time
to post that info. Move forward to the present, and there are a lot
more resources at one's disposal, and it isn't as hard to get done
what needs to get done.

I've learned one other thing from this, and whether people agree, or
are comfortable with it, I haven't a clue: it is about the people.

I've been spending a lot of time in a couple other forums, in
decidedly different subject areas, and almost all of what *didn't*
work - as a community - in MMM works very well. I had given up hope,
but it turns out it was mainly the basic makeup of people who might
have been interested in microtonality that skewed the thing.

So, not a failure, IMO, but an interesting experiment that has, just
like threads will do, drifted. And, who knows? Something very similar,
with differing members, and differing leadership agendas, might behave
very differently.

Ok, back to your tunings...

<3,
Jon