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5ths in 34 eq temp

🔗microstick@msn.com

9/11/2007 12:03:49 PM

Regarding 5ths tuned sharp...the 5th in 34 eq is about 706 cents; after playing and composing in this tuning for many years, I think it sounds great, whether I'm using it melodically or harmonically. Is it a 3/2 or a sharp 5th? Danged if I know...I recall a friend of mine hearing some of my 34 tone music, and commenting on how "relaxed" it sounded; he said something to the effect of "this is how music is supposed to sound/feel." I agree, 34 does, indeed, have a very sort of "centered" feel (for lack of a better term). And, I've never been that worried about a few cents here or there...as Wendy Carlos has pointed out, there's always going to be some sort of physical error in tuning acoustic instruments anyway...perfect/precise intonation is mostly theoretical (except on newfangled electronic instruments, of course)...and when talking with John Starrett a few years ago, about organ tunings in Bach's time, he remarked, not without humor, that as soon as an organ was tuned back then, it went out of that tune almost immediately anyway.

And, a favorite quote of mine is regarding the lute: someone said if you owned a lute and lived 80 years, at least 65 of those years were spent tuning your lute. When I play my nylon string guitar on gigs, it is constantly slipping out of tune; as soon as I take it out of the case, the room temperature affects it; then, when the room temperature changes because people fill the room, it changes again...and the heat from my hands causes constant changes as well. I retune from song to song, key to key....Hstick
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🔗Gene Ward Smith <genewardsmith@sbcglobal.net>

9/11/2007 12:13:03 PM

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, <microstick@...> wrote:
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> Regarding 5ths tuned sharp...the 5th in 34 eq is about 706 cents;
after playing and composing in this tuning for many years, I think it
sounds great, whether I'm using it melodically or harmonically. Is it a
3/2 or a sharp 5th? Danged if I know...I recall a friend of mine
hearing some of my 34 tone music, and commenting on how "relaxed" it
sounded; he said something to the effect of "this is how music is
supposed to sound/feel." I agree, 34 does, indeed, have a very sort
of "centered" feel (for lack of a better term).

I suspect that's in great measure due to the major third, which is only
a litte sharp. In the 5-limit, 34 is detuned only a litte, perhaps by
an amount some would find more or less optimal. An interesting
comparison might be to the 46-et 5-limit, which has a fifth less sharp,
but a sharper third. Does that still sound relaxed, do you think?