New composition here....

http://rapidshare.com/files/42577920/passacaglia.mp3.html

Here's something i made trying out a new approach. I'm not gonna tell
anything yet about the tuning, or the composition, but i want to see
if anyone here manages to figure out the "secret"....

Hi Mats,

I was just listening to some of your tunes the other day.
Great to see a contribution from you again.
However, I'm having trouble downloading. I'm being prompted
by confusing questions about how I want to pay for it.

-Carl

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Mats Öljare <oljare@...> wrote:
>
> http://rapidshare.com/files/42577920/passacaglia.mp3.html
>
> Here's something i made trying out a new approach. I'm not gonna tell
> anything yet about the tuning, or the composition, but i want to see
> if anyone here manages to figure out the "secret"....
>

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The Rhytmicon comparison is not out of place, but it was in fact
inspired by the "Whitney" generator as posted and discussed here:

/metatuning/topicId_10828.html#10828

As some have been able to tell, each pitch always repeats at the same
tempo, a tempo which is directly related to the pitch. This is
accomplished by simply starting with a single note played as a loop,
then transposing it in Sound Forge, changing both pitch and tempo, and
mixing it all.

Also using a program i made in QBasic (which severely limits the sound
choices as well as being very slow to process) i can set tempo
independent of the pitch, to for example reverse the order from high
to low, but any other correlation does not give the effect of
overtones always being played together.

Funny how many described the scale as non-just, when it is in fact a
just Genus 3 3 3 5 7. Genus scales are especially suitable for this,
both because they have multiple tonics which makes the structure less
linear one-dimensional, and because they actually require less work as
only each factor, not every note in the scale, need to be individually
transposed.

Considering the possibilities of selecting pitches, adding and
removing notes afterwards, and selecting pitch and tempo separately, i
think there is potential for an altogether new system of composition here!

Here's another real long one, based on the overtones 16-32:

http://rapidshare.com/files/42750894/over32.mp3.html

I have even more ideas for scales and structures to use, but it would
be easier if they weren't so time consuming to make... sigh.

All I can tell about this is that it is definitely far more removed from ET
than mere meantone or well-temperament, like it's some kind of higher EDO
scale. Occastion I seem to hear a just-tuned dominant-9th chord. I can
hardly wait until you reveal it.

On the first rapidshare page, click on the Free button near the bottom, then
follow the confusing instructions from there.

Billy

> On the first rapidshare page, click on the Free button near
> the bottom, then follow the confusing instructions from there.

I'd rather not. Mats, you can code in Qbasic, but put
people through this to download a file?

-Carl

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Lumma" <clumma@...> wrote:
>
> > On the first rapidshare page, click on the Free button near
> > the bottom, then follow the confusing instructions from there.
>
> I'd rather not. Mats, you can code in Qbasic, but put
> people through this to download a file?

Like, for example, on archive.org?

-Carl

> > > On the first rapidshare page, click on the Free button near
> > > the bottom, then follow the confusing instructions from there.
> >
> > I'd rather not. Mats, you can code in Qbasic, but put
> > people through this to download a file?
>
> Like, for example, on archive.org?

Sorry. I mean, have you considered using archive.org instead?

-Carl

Slow-mo Doppler shift?
----- Original Message -----
From: mikal haley
To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 13 Temmuz 2007 Cuma 14:00
Subject: Re: [tuning] Re: New composition here....

i figured it out. just take the free options.
-
i am listening to it now, it's intriguing and beautiful.
it sounds like...one of the old music boxes, or a toy piano.
i would never ever try to figure out the tuning secret. i don't even know
what you are playing. "harmonic dissonance"? i don't know.

it's beautiful, though.

i suggest http://putfile.com/
if a place for sound storage is needed. it's free and you get a lot.

On 7/13/07, Carl Lumma <clumma@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Mats,

I was just listening to some of your tunes the other day.
Great to see a contribution from you again.
However, I'm having trouble downloading. I'm being prompted
by confusing questions about how I want to pay for it.

-Carl

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com , Mats Öljare <oljare@...> wrote:
>
> http://rapidshare.com/files/42577920/passacaglia.mp3.html
>
> Here's something i made trying out a new approach. I'm not gonna tell
> anything yet about the tuning, or the composition, but i want to see
> if anyone here manages to figure out the "secret"....
>

I uploaded some more demonstrations here. I hesitate to call them
compositions! Hopefully this should work without problems for anyone
here. This is what is in it:

Genus 3 3 3 5 7 in a different rendering than the first.

41-tet, nothing special here.

Overtones 8-32 with equally spaced beats (that is, tone number 8 on
every 8 beats, 9 on every 9 beats etc) rather than divided tempos. You
can also think of this as a subharmonic series of tempos, though the
pitches are harmonics.

Overtones 16-64, same idea.

http://rapidshare.com/files/43280236/spectral_serialism.zip.html

Hi
unfortunately , iran government is filtering all sharing sites has word "share" in web adress , my divshare is also filtered , so i have no chance to see it.

Shaahin Mohajeri

Tombak Player & Researcher , Microtonal Composer

My web site?? ???? ????? ?????? <http://240edo.googlepages.com/>

My farsi page in Harmonytalk ???? ??????? ?? ??????? ??? <http://www.harmonytalk.com/mohajeri>

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________________________________

From: tuning@yahoogroups.com [mailto:tuning@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mats ?ljare
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 10:24 PM
To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tuning] Re: New composition here....

I uploaded some more demonstrations here. I hesitate to call them
compositions! Hopefully this should work without problems for anyone
here. This is what is in it:

Genus 3 3 3 5 7 in a different rendering than the first.

41-tet, nothing special here.

Overtones 8-32 with equally spaced beats (that is, tone number 8 on
every 8 beats, 9 on every 9 beats etc) rather than divided tempos. You
can also think of this as a subharmonic series of tempos, though the
pitches are harmonics.

Overtones 16-64, same idea.

http://rapidshare.com/files/43280236/spectral_serialism.zip.html <http://rapidshare.com/files/43280236/spectral_serialism.zip.html>

Alright, i'm posting one more set of these demonstrations here. Due to
the poor feedback i'm getting, they will probably be the last. The
tunings used here are:

n*(n+1) series, from 6*7 to 48*49.

Overtones 16-32, repeated in octaves.

Overtones 8-16 multiplied (rather than divided) by themselves in a
Tonality Diamond-like structure, and repeated in octaves.

http://rapidshare.com/files/44046695/more.zip.html

Like I said, they now claim I've exceeded my download
limit.

-Carl

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Mats Öljare <oljare@...> wrote:
>
> Alright, i'm posting one more set of these demonstrations here. Due to
> the poor feedback i'm getting, they will probably be the last. The
> tunings used here are:
>
> n*(n+1) series, from 6*7 to 48*49.
>
> Overtones 16-32, repeated in octaves.
>
> Overtones 8-16 multiplied (rather than divided) by themselves in a
> Tonality Diamond-like structure, and repeated in octaves.
>
> http://rapidshare.com/files/44046695/more.zip.html

http://rapidshare.com/files/44545073/more.zip.html

Here's the very last and final set i will post here. The tunings are:

Harmonics 4, 5, 6, 7 multiplied by each of themselves, and by
themselves again, for a total of 20 pitches.

(4*4*4, 4*4*5, 4*4*6, 4*4*7, 4*5*5, 4*5*6, 4*5*7, 4*6*6, 4*6*7, 4*7*7,
5*5*5, 5*5*6, 5*5*7, 5*6*6, 5*6*7, 5*7*7,
6*6*6, 6*6*7, 6*7*7, 7*7*7)

Difference tones of subharmonics 1-8

Sum tones of subharmonics 1-8

1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 Eikosany