Re: Testing the Limits

[Joseph Pehrson, TD 451.16:]
>Thanks to Paul Erlich and Daniel Wolf for the comments and suggestions
>regarding Just Intonation Schubert. I don't mean to be so far "behind
>the curve," but if you have time could someone explain a bit more
>fully what "adaptive" JI is?? (Ratio and pitch examples might help,
>too.) I don't seem to find that term here in my Doty JI primer which
>is, unfortunately, about the limit of my limits. Thanks!

The term comes (to me, at least) from Paul Hahn. I've also called it
"dynamic (JI) tuning". It's the process of changing the tuning of a
piece on the fly, in response to the harmony of the moment.

I have examples, howbeit (as has been discussed at some length on this
list) preliminary ones, if you can play General MIDI files, on my web
site:

http://www.idcomm.com/personal/jadl/

including several Schubert pieces in adaptive 5-limit JI.

If you can't play MIDI files, I've got a small piece of my own coming
up on the Tuning Punks site, in adaptive 7-limit JI.

JdL

"John A. deLaubenfels" wrote:

> [Joseph Pehrson, TD 451.16:]
> >Thanks to Paul Erlich and Daniel Wolf for the comments and suggestions
> >regarding Just Intonation Schubert. I don't mean to be so far "behind
> >the curve," but if you have time could someone explain a bit more
> >fully what "adaptive" JI is?? (Ratio and pitch examples might help,
> >too.) I don't seem to find that term here in my Doty JI primer which
> >is, unfortunately, about the limit of my limits. Thanks!
>
> The term comes (to me, at least) from Paul Hahn. I've also called it
> "dynamic (JI) tuning". It's the process of changing the tuning of a
> piece on the fly, in response to the harmony of the moment.

I think Lou Harrison called it "free style". Check out
"Lou Harrison - Composing a World" by Leta E. Miller
and Fredric Lieberman.

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>> The term comes (to me, at least) from Paul Hahn. I've also called it
>> "dynamic (JI) tuning". It's the process of changing the tuning of a
>> piece on the fly, in response to the harmony of the moment.

>I think Lou Harrison called it "free style". Check out
>"Lou Harrison - Composing a World" by Leta E. Miller
>and Fredric Lieberman.

No, Lou Harrison's "free style" is an example of "strict JI", not "adaptive
JI", since Lou makes all _melodic_ intervals simple ratios, while adaptive
JI only makes the _harmonic_ intervals simple ratios.

[John A. deLaubenfels:]
> If you can't play MIDI files, I've got a small piece of my own
coming up on the Tuning Punks site, in adaptive 7-limit JI.

And it's really very very nice... different from what I would have
expected also...

Dan

[John A. deLaubenfels:]
> If you can't play MIDI files, I've got a small piece of my own
coming up on the Tuning Punks site, in adaptive 7-limit JI.

And it's really very very nice, which of course is just another way to
say that I enjoyed it... different from what I would have expected
also...

Dan