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Tinaphobia

🔗J.Smith <jsmith9624@sbcglobal.net>

5/16/2007 1:22:02 AM

Monz, you wrote:

"Boy, for a group of people who embrace new tunings enthusiastically,
there sure is a strong conservative bent to most mindsets around here."

For a number of reasons having absolutely nothing to do with this
thread, I found this comment excruciatingly funny. I was forced to put
down my coffee while I rofwl.

At any rate, I have insufficient mathematical savvy to comprehend the
usefulness of the "tina" as a measurement tool. And I like the "cent"
just fine for my own nefarious purposes. However, it seems to me the
future use of the "tina" will be completely assured given the following
conditions:

1) That it is in every respect simpler to use than the "cent";

2) That it is easier for non-specialists to understand than the "cent";

3) That it concisely, accurately and simply conveys tuning information
about any and all tunings, whatever their method of construction.

These conditions being fullfilled, the "cent" quickly becomes extinct.
Survival of the fittest and all that.

🔗Gordon Rumson <rumsong@telus.net>

5/16/2007 8:20:20 AM

>
> These conditions being fullfilled, the "cent" quickly becomes extinct.
> Survival of the fittest and all that.
>

Greetings,

If survival of the fittest were true, how do you explain Microsoft?

:)))))))))))))

Please take this in good humour!

I agree with other comments though about the term being easier to use as a preparation to its widespread use.

There is a 'certain' clarity to the cent, but I feel it really enforces a basic notion of 12 tone EQ.

All best wishes,

Gordon Rumson

🔗Cornell III, Howard M <howard.m.cornell.iii@lmco.com>

5/16/2007 8:40:45 AM

Gordon Rumson wrote:

"There is a 'certain' clarity to the cent, but I feel it really enforces
a basic notion of 12 tone EQ."

The 'certain' clarity IS the cent. IMHO, twelve tone EQ enforces a
basic notion of the cent.

Regards,

Howard Cornell

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Of Gordon Rumson
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:20 AM
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Subject: Re: [tuning] Tinaphobia

>
> These conditions being fullfilled, the "cent" quickly becomes extinct.
> Survival of the fittest and all that.
>

Greetings,

If survival of the fittest were true, how do you explain Microsoft?

:)))))))))))))

Please take this in good humour!

I agree with other comments though about the term being easier to use
as a preparation to its widespread use.

There is a 'certain' clarity to the cent, but I feel it really
enforces a basic notion of 12 tone EQ.

All best wishes,

Gordon Rumson

🔗Gene Ward Smith <genewardsmith@sbcglobal.net>

5/16/2007 11:19:10 AM

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Gordon Rumson <rumsong@...> wrote:

> There is a 'certain' clarity to the cent, but I feel it really
> enforces a basic notion of 12 tone EQ.

I've always regarded divisibility by 12 as a plus, but if you want to
break with 12edo completely, the tina as a unit wouldn't hurt.

🔗Herman Miller <hmiller@IO.COM>

5/16/2007 9:15:03 PM

Gordon Rumson wrote:
>> These conditions being fullfilled, the "cent" quickly becomes extinct.
>> Survival of the fittest and all that.
>>
> > Greetings,
> > If survival of the fittest were true, how do you explain Microsoft?
> > :)))))))))))))
> > Please take this in good humour!

I know what you mean, but there's a common misunderstanding of the meaning of the word "fittest". It means best adapted, not best in a general sense. So it's likely that "cent" will survive due to its familiarity and long history, pretty much the same reasons that Microsoft is still dominant. "Tina" may be better for some purposes; "millioctave" for others. But so many articles and books use "cent" that anyone interested in tuning will still need to know it, and many probably won't have a need for anything else.