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An experimental piece in a mode of 80 MOS 159-tET

🔗Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com>

4/13/2007 10:25:26 AM

Based on a theme from "Gen� Osman" by Kul Mustafa:

http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/Nishabur.mp3

Compare with the original:

http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/download/021_Genc_Osman.mp3

🔗Aaron Andrew Hunt <aahunt@h-pi.com>

4/13/2007 1:35:17 PM

I hope experimental means you will develop this. I want to hear much
more.

Yours,
Aaron Hunt
H-Pi Instruments

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Ozan Yarman" <ozanyarman@...> wrote:
>
> Based on a theme from "Genç Osman" by Kul Mustafa:
>
> http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/Nishabur.mp3
>
> Compare with the original:
>
> http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/download/021_Genc_Osman.mp3
>

🔗Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com>

4/13/2007 2:40:43 PM

Sure thing, I founded the "79-tone theory/notation/performance league" here
just yesterday. More things are on the way.

Stay tuned,
Oz.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Aaron Andrew Hunt" <aahunt@h-pi.com>
To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 13 Nisan 2007 Cuma 23:35
Subject: [tuning] Re: An experimental piece in a mode of 80 MOS 159-tET

I hope experimental means you will develop this. I want to hear much
more.

Yours,
Aaron Hunt
H-Pi Instruments

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Ozan Yarman" <ozanyarman@...> wrote:
>
> Based on a theme from "Gen� Osman" by Kul Mustafa:
>
> http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/Nishabur.mp3
>
> Compare with the original:
>
> http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/download/021_Genc_Osman.mp3
>

🔗Carl Lumma <clumma@yahoo.com>

4/13/2007 9:41:48 PM

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Ozan Yarman" <ozanyarman@...> wrote:
>
> Based on a theme from "Genç Osman" by Kul Mustafa:
>
> http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/Nishabur.mp3
>
> Compare with the original:
>
> http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/download/021_Genc_Osman.mp3

Awesome!

-Carl

🔗Carl Lumma <clumma@yahoo.com>

4/13/2007 9:46:54 PM

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Lumma" <clumma@...> wrote:
>
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Ozan Yarman" <ozanyarman@> wrote:
> >
> > Based on a theme from "Genç Osman" by Kul Mustafa:
> >
> > http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/Nishabur.mp3
> >
> > Compare with the original:
> >
> > http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/download/021_Genc_Osman.mp3
>
> Awesome!

In the original, I'm struck by the intonation difference
between the vocals and the wind instrument.

Your version is the most interesting tuning-wise.

-Carl

🔗Mohajeri Shahin <shahinm@kayson-ir.com>

4/13/2007 10:05:58 PM

Hi brother
very nice musics , both of them , but i wish your composition were long.

Shaahin Mohajeri

Tombak Player & Researcher , Microtonal Composer

My web site?? ???? ????? ?????? <http://240edo.googlepages.com/>

My farsi page in Harmonytalk ???? ??????? ?? ??????? ??? <http://www.harmonytalk.com/mohajeri>

Shaahin Mohajeri in Wikipedia ????? ?????? ??????? ??????? ???? ???? <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaahin_mohajeri>

________________________________

From: tuning@yahoogroups.com [mailto:tuning@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Carl Lumma
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 8:17 AM
To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tuning] Re: An experimental piece in a mode of 80 MOS 159-tET

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com <mailto:tuning%40yahoogroups.com> , "Carl Lumma" <clumma@...> wrote:
>
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com <mailto:tuning%40yahoogroups.com> , "Ozan Yarman" <ozanyarman@> wrote:
> >
> > Based on a theme from "Genç Osman" by Kul Mustafa:
> >
> > http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/Nishabur.mp3 <http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/Nishabur.mp3>
> >
> > Compare with the original:
> >
> > http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/download/021_Genc_Osman.mp3 <http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/download/021_Genc_Osman.mp3>
>
> Awesome!

In the original, I'm struck by the intonation difference
between the vocals and the wind instrument.

Your version is the most interesting tuning-wise.

-Carl

🔗hstraub64 <hstraub64@telesonique.net>

4/14/2007 1:55:48 PM

Sounds good, really!
And interesting how polyphony suits in very naturally.
I will like to hear more, too.
--
Hans Straub

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Ozan Yarman" <ozanyarman@...> wrote:
>
> Based on a theme from "Genç Osman" by Kul Mustafa:
>
> http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/Nishabur.mp3
>
> Compare with the original:
>
> http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/download/021_Genc_Osman.mp3
>

🔗Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com>

4/15/2007 12:14:31 PM

Thank you for the encouragement! 79/80 MOS 159-tET not only comprises maqam
scales admirably, but is suitable for polyphony too.

Oz.

----- Original Message -----
From: "hstraub64" <hstraub64@telesonique.net>
To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 14 Nisan 2007 Cumartesi 23:55
Subject: [tuning] Re: An experimental piece in a mode of 80 MOS 159-tET

Sounds good, really!
And interesting how polyphony suits in very naturally.
I will like to hear more, too.
--
Hans Straub

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Ozan Yarman" <ozanyarman@...> wrote:
>
> Based on a theme from "Gen� Osman" by Kul Mustafa:
>
> http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/Nishabur.mp3
>
> Compare with the original:
>
> http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/download/021_Genc_Osman.mp3
>

🔗Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com>

4/15/2007 12:16:00 PM

Yes brother, the sooner I have the ability to compose a score using a program that both tunes every note in the same channel and recognizes Sagittal accidentals, the better I will fare.

Stay in touch.
Oz.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mohajeri Shahin
To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 14 Nisan 2007 Cumartesi 8:05
Subject: RE: [tuning] Re: An experimental piece in a mode of 80 MOS 159-tET

Hi brother
very nice musics , both of them , but i wish your composition were long.

Shaahin Mohajeri

🔗Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com>

4/15/2007 12:13:36 PM

Tuning-wise, Nishabur is an octatonal Maqam with tonic on the 3rd degree:

0: 1/1 C rast
1: 121.204 cents C#|\ steep zengule
2: 332.628 cents D#/|\ acute nihavend
3: 438.385 cents E/|\ nishabur
4: 619.634 cents F#|\ uzzal
5: 3/2 G neva
6: 927.752 cents A|\ steep huseyni
7: 1033.674 cents Bb/|\ steep ajem
8: 2/1 C gerdaniye

Still, one may omit zengule and have a septatonic version too.

Notice the septimal chords available in this scale.

Thanks for listening. I'm glad you like.
Oz.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Lumma" <clumma@yahoo.com>
To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 14 Nisan 2007 Cumartesi 7:46
Subject: [tuning] Re: An experimental piece in a mode of 80 MOS 159-tET

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Lumma" <clumma@...> wrote:
>
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Ozan Yarman" <ozanyarman@> wrote:
> >
> > Based on a theme from "Gen� Osman" by Kul Mustafa:
> >
> > http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/Nishabur.mp3
> >
> > Compare with the original:
> >
> > http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/download/021_Genc_Osman.mp3
>
> Awesome!

In the original, I'm struck by the intonation difference
between the vocals and the wind instrument.

Your version is the most interesting tuning-wise.

-Carl

🔗Mohajeri Shahin <shahinm@kayson-ir.com>

4/15/2007 8:36:57 PM

is the program a secret? may you tell what is it?

Shaahin Mohajeri

Tombak Player & Researcher , Microtonal Composer

My web site?? ???? ????? ?????? <http://240edo.googlepages.com/>

My farsi page in Harmonytalk ???? ??????? ?? ??????? ??? <http://www.harmonytalk.com/mohajeri>

Shaahin Mohajeri in Wikipedia ????? ?????? ??????? ??????? ???? ???? <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaahin_mohajeri>

________________________________

From: tuning@yahoogroups.com [mailto:tuning@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ozan Yarman
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 10:46 PM
To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tuning] Re: An experimental piece in a mode of 80 MOS 159-tET

Yes brother, the sooner I have the ability to compose a score using a program that both tunes every note in the same channel and recognizes Sagittal accidentals, the better I will fare.

Stay in touch.
Oz.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mohajeri Shahin <mailto:shahinm@kayson-ir.com>
To: tuning@yahoogroups.com <mailto:tuning@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 14 Nisan 2007 Cumartesi 8:05
Subject: RE: [tuning] Re: An experimental piece in a mode of 80 MOS 159-tET

Hi brother
very nice musics , both of them , but i wish your composition were long.

Shaahin Mohajeri

🔗Mohajeri Shahin <shahinm@kayson-ir.com>

4/15/2007 8:39:18 PM

Hi

Whats that Steep , here ? ozan brother?

Shaahin Mohajeri

Tombak Player & Researcher , Microtonal Composer

My web site?? ???? ????? ??????

My farsi page in Harmonytalk ???? ??????? ?? ??????? ???

Shaahin Mohajeri in Wikipedia ????? ?????? ??????? ??????? ???? ????

-----Original Message-----
From: tuning@yahoogroups.com [mailto:tuning@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ozan Yarman
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 10:44 PM
To: Tuning List
Subject: Re: [tuning] Re: An experimental piece in a mode of 80 MOS 159-tET

Tuning-wise, Nishabur is an octatonal Maqam with tonic on the 3rd degree:

0: 1/1 C rast
1: 121.204 cents C#|\ steep zengule
2: 332.628 cents D#/|\ acute nihavend
3: 438.385 cents E/|\ nishabur
4: 619.634 cents F#|\ uzzal
5: 3/2 G neva
6: 927.752 cents A|\ steep huseyni
7: 1033.674 cents Bb/|\ steep ajem
8: 2/1 C gerdaniye

Still, one may omit zengule and have a septatonic version too.

Notice the septimal chords available in this scale.

Thanks for listening. I'm glad you like.
Oz.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Lumma" <clumma@yahoo.com>
To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 14 Nisan 2007 Cumartesi 7:46
Subject: [tuning] Re: An experimental piece in a mode of 80 MOS 159-tET

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Lumma" <clumma@...> wrote:
>
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Ozan Yarman" <ozanyarman@> wrote:
> >
> > Based on a theme from "Genç Osman" by Kul Mustafa:
> >
> > http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/Nishabur.mp3
> >
> > Compare with the original:
> >
> > http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/download/021_Genc_Osman.mp3
>
> Awesome!

In the original, I'm struck by the intonation difference between the vocals and the wind instrument.

Your version is the most interesting tuning-wise.

-Carl

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🔗Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com>

4/16/2007 4:15:53 AM

Alas, it does not exist yet. I picked a name, though, for the first future release: "Terane 1.0".

For those who do not know Persian, Terane means reciting a poem or singing a song in due manner and harmony (thus, in a given maqam).

Yes, it is supposed to be a 79-tone Maqam notation software!

Oz.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mohajeri Shahin
To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 16 Nisan 2007 Pazartesi 6:36
Subject: RE: [tuning] Re: An experimental piece in a mode of 80 MOS 159-tET

is the program a secret? may you tell what is it?

Shaahin Mohajeri

Tombak Player & Researcher , Microtonal Composer

My web site?? ???? ????? ??????

My farsi page in Harmonytalk ???? ??????? ?? ??????? ???

Shaahin Mohajeri in Wikipedia ????? ?????? ??????? ??????? ???? ????

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From: tuning@yahoogroups.com [mailto:tuning@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ozan Yarman
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 10:46 PM
To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tuning] Re: An experimental piece in a mode of 80 MOS 159-tET

Yes brother, the sooner I have the ability to compose a score using a program that both tunes every note in the same channel and recognizes Sagittal accidentals, the better I will fare.

Stay in touch.
Oz.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mohajeri Shahin
To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 14 Nisan 2007 Cumartesi 8:05
Subject: RE: [tuning] Re: An experimental piece in a mode of 80 MOS 159-tET

Hi brother
very nice musics , both of them , but i wish your composition were long.

Shaahin Mohajeri

🔗Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com>

4/16/2007 4:03:27 AM

"Steep" is the English translation of the Turkish word "sarp" that I used to
denote an inflexion of a traditional perde that is higher in pitch than
"acute", or "dik" (again in Turkish).

Hence, sarp huseyni is one step higher than dik huseyni, which in turn is a
step above huseyni in 79/80 MOS 159-tET.

Now, please consider the following table of perdes:

Degree Cents 159-tET Difference Approximated JI Ratios Perdes
0: 0.000 0 0.0000 � 1/1 Rast
1: 15.092 2 0.0021 � 126/125,100/99,80/81 Dik Rast
2: 30.185 4 0.0041 � 64/63,3125/3072,55:54 (Sarp Rast)
3: 45.277 6 0.0062 � 128/125,36/35,33/32
4: 60.369 8 0.0083 � 729/704,28/27,27/26
5: 75.461 10 0.0103 � 25/24,117/112,22/21 Shuri
6: 90.554 12 0.0124 � 20/19,256/243,135/128 Nim Zengule
7: 105.646 14 0.0145 � 17/16,16/15,2187/2048
8: 120.738 16 0.0165 � 15/14,14/13
9: 135.830 18 0.0186 � 27/25,13/12 Zengule cluster
10: 150.923 20 0.0207 � 88/81,12/11,35/32
11: 166.015 22 0.0227 � 11/10,54/49
12: 181.107 24 0.0248 � 65536/59049,10/9 Zengule
13: 196.200 26 0.0269 � 28/25,9/8 D�gah
14: 211.292 28 0.0289 � 9/8,26/23 Dik D�gah
15: 226.384 30 0.0310 � 256/225,8/7 (Sarp D�gah)
16: 241.476 32 0.0331 � 144/125 Nim K�rdi
17: 256.569 34 0.0351 � 37/32,81/70,125/108
18: 271.661 36 0.0372 � 7/6 Nerm K�rdi
19: 286.753 38 0.0393 � 33/28,13/11,32/27 K�rdi
20: 301.845 40 0.0413 � 32/27,25/21,81/68 Dik K�rdi
21: 316.938 42 0.0434 � 6/5,19683/16384 Nihavend
22: 332.030 44 0.0455 � 63/52,40/33,17/14 Hijazi Segah
23: 347.122 46 0.0475 � 39/32,11/9,27/22 Ushshaqi Segah
24: 362.215 48 0.0496 � 16/13,100/81,21/17 Sabai Segah
25: 377.307 50 0.0517 � 31/25,41/33,46/37,5/4 Segahche
26: 392.399 52 0.0537 � 5/4,64/51,59/47 Segah
27: 407.491 54 0.0558 � 81/64,19/15,33/26 Buselik
28: 422.584 56 0.0579 � 14/11,23/18,32/25 Dik Buselik
29: 437.676 58 0.0599 � 9/7 Nishab�r
30: 452.768 60 0.0620 � 35/27,13/10
31: 467.860 62 0.0641 � 38/29,21/16
32: 482.953 64 0.0661 � 33/25,37/28 Nerm Chargah
33: 498.045 66 0.0682 � 4/3 Chargah
34: 513.137 68 0.0703 � 39/29,35/26,27/20 Dik Chargah
35: 528.230 70 0.0723 � 19/14,49/36 (Sarp Chargah)
36: 543.322 72 0.0744 � 26/19,48/35,11/8 Nim Hijaz
37: 558.414 74 0.0765 � 11/8,29/21
38: 573.506 76 0.0785 � 25/18,32/23,39/28 Nerm Hijaz
39: 588.599 78 0.0806 � 7/5,1024/729,45/32 Hijaz
40: 603.691 80 0.0827 � 24/17,17/12 Saba
41: 618.783 82 0.0847 � 10/7 Uzzal
42: 633.875 84 0.0868 � 23/16,36/25,49/34
43: 648.968 86 0.0889 � 16/11,8192/5625,35/24
44: 664.060 88 0.0909 � 22/15,69/47,72/49 Saba/Uzzal cluster
45: 679.152 90 0.0930 � 37/25,40/27
46: 694.245 92 0.0951 �
47: 701.955 93 -0.0682 � 3/2 Neva
48: 717.047 95 -0.0661 � 53/35,50/33,1024/675 Dik Neva
49: 732.140 97 -0.0641 � 32/21,29/19,75/49 (Sarp Neva)
50: 747.232 99 -0.0620 � 192/125,20/13,54/35
51: 762.324 101 -0.0599 � 45/29,59/38,14/9
52: 777.416 103 -0.0579 � 25/16,47/30,11/7 Bayati
53: 792.509 105 -0.0558 � 30/19,128/81,19/12 Nim Hisar
54: 807.601 107 -0.0537 � 43/27,8/5,6561/4096
55: 822.693 109 -0.0517 � 37/23
56: 837.785 111 -0.0496 � 34/21,81/50,13/8 Hisar/H�zzam cluster
57: 852.878 113 -0.0475 � 44/27,18/11,105/64
58: 867.970 115 -0.0455 � 28/17,33/20
59: 883.062 117 -0.0434 � 32768/19683,5/3 Hisar(ek)
60: 898.155 119 -0.0413 � 5/3,42/25,27/16 H�seyni
61: 913.247 121 -0.0393 � 27/16,39/23,17/10 Dik H�seyni
62: 928.339 123 -0.0372 � 128/75,41/24,12/7 (Sarp H�seyni)
63: 943.431 125 -0.0351 � 50/29,216/125,64/37 Nim Ajem
64: 958.524 127 -0.0331 � 125/72,40/23,47/27
65: 973.616 129 -0.0310 � 7/4,225/128 Nerm Ajem
66: 988.708 131 -0.0289 � 23/13,16/9 Ajem
67: 1003.800 133 -0.0269 � 16/9,25/14 Dik Ajem
68: 1018.893 135 -0.0248 � 9/5,59049/32768 Sarp Ajem
69: 1033.985 137 -0.0227 � 29/16,20/11
70: 1049.077 139 -0.0207 � 11/6 Evj cluster
71: 1064.170 141 -0.0186 � 37/20,50/27,13/7
72: 1079.262 143 -0.0165 � 28/15 Nerm Evj
73: 1094.354 145 -0.0145 � 15/8,32/17,17/9 Evj
74: 1109.446 147 -0.0124 � 256/135,243/128,40/21 Mahur
75: 1124.539 149 -0.0103 � 21/11,23/12,48/25 Dik Mahur
76: 1139.631 151 -0.0083 � 27/14,29/15,31/16 Mahurek
77: 1154.723 153 -0.0062 � 37/19,39/20,125/64
78: 1169.815 155 -0.0041 � 49/25,55/28,6144/3125
79: 1184.908 157 -0.0021 � 2025/1024,105/53 Nerm Gerdaniye
80: 1200.000 159 0.0000 � 2/1 Gerdaniye

Now group the names into 17 traditional sectors:

0. rast,
1. shuri,
2. zengule,
3. d�gah,
4. k�rdi/nihavend,
5. segah,
6. buselik,
7. chargah,
8. hijaz,
9. saba/uzzal,
10. neva,
11. bayati,
12. hisar,
13. h�seyni,
14. ajem,
15. evj,
16. mahur,
17. gerdaniye.

Oz.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mohajeri Shahin" <shahinm@kayson-ir.com>
To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 16 Nisan 2007 Pazartesi 6:39
Subject: RE: [tuning] Re: An experimental piece in a mode of 80 MOS 159-tET

Hi

Whats that Steep , here ? ozan brother?

Shaahin Mohajeri

Tombak Player & Researcher , Microtonal Composer

My web site?? ???? ????? ??????

My farsi page in Harmonytalk ???? ??????? ?? ??????? ???

Shaahin Mohajeri in Wikipedia ????? ?????? ??????? ??????? ???? ????

-----Original Message-----
From: tuning@yahoogroups.com [mailto:tuning@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Ozan Yarman
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 10:44 PM
To: Tuning List
Subject: Re: [tuning] Re: An experimental piece in a mode of 80 MOS 159-tET

Tuning-wise, Nishabur is an octatonal Maqam with tonic on the 3rd degree:

0: 1/1 C rast
1: 121.204 cents C#|\ steep zengule
2: 332.628 cents D#/|\ acute nihavend
3: 438.385 cents E/|\ nishabur
4: 619.634 cents F#|\ uzzal
5: 3/2 G neva
6: 927.752 cents A|\ steep huseyni
7: 1033.674 cents Bb/|\ steep ajem
8: 2/1 C gerdaniye

Still, one may omit zengule and have a septatonic version too.

Notice the septimal chords available in this scale.

Thanks for listening. I'm glad you like.
Oz.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Lumma" <clumma@yahoo.com>
To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 14 Nisan 2007 Cumartesi 7:46
Subject: [tuning] Re: An experimental piece in a mode of 80 MOS 159-tET

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Lumma" <clumma@...> wrote:
>
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Ozan Yarman" <ozanyarman@> wrote:
> >
> > Based on a theme from "Gen� Osman" by Kul Mustafa:
> >
> > http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/Nishabur.mp3
> >
> > Compare with the original:
> >
> > http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/download/021_Genc_Osman.mp3
>
> Awesome!

In the original, I'm struck by the intonation difference between the vocals
and the wind instrument.

Your version is the most interesting tuning-wise.

-Carl

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🔗Danny Wier <dawiertx@sbcglobal.net>

4/18/2007 11:55:37 AM

Ozan Yarman wrote:

> Based on a theme from "Gen� Osman" by Kul Mustafa:
>
> http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/Nishabur.mp3
>
> Compare with the original:
>
> http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/download/021_Genc_Osman.mp3

Nice! It's the beginning of something I hope.

I got a challenge for you if you have time: write preludes and fugues (prelude as either Bach, Chopin or Rachmaninov would've written), except instead of one of each in all the keys, write them in each maqam.

~D.

🔗Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com>

4/19/2007 6:04:10 AM

----- Original Message -----
From: "Danny Wier" <dawiertx@sbcglobal.net>
To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 18 Nisan 2007 �ar�amba 21:55
Subject: Re: [tuning] An experimental piece in a mode of 80 MOS 159-tET

> Ozan Yarman wrote:
>
> > Based on a theme from "Gen� Osman" by Kul Mustafa:
> >
> > http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/Nishabur.mp3
> >
> > Compare with the original:
> >
> > http://www.osmanli700.gen.tr/download/021_Genc_Osman.mp3
>
> Nice! It's the beginning of something I hope.
>

Surely.

> I got a challenge for you if you have time: write preludes and fugues
> (prelude as either Bach, Chopin or Rachmaninov would've written), except
> instead of one of each in all the keys, write them in each maqam.
>
> ~D.
>
>

Danny, you have given me inspiration with this challenge. Time will tell
whether or not I am up to composing "79-tone Preludes and Fugues
demonstrating the quasi-just harmonic resources of 79/80 Moment of Symmetry
159-tET in the polyphonic expression of Maqamat".

Oz.

🔗Danny Wier <dawiertx@sbcglobal.net>

4/19/2007 3:54:14 PM

Ozan Yarman wrote:

[me]
>> I got a challenge for you if you have time: write preludes and fugues
>> (prelude as either Bach, Chopin or Rachmaninov would've written), except
>> instead of one of each in all the keys, write them in each maqam.
>
> Danny, you have given me inspiration with this challenge. Time will tell
> whether or not I am up to composing "79-tone Preludes and Fugues
> demonstrating the quasi-just harmonic resources of 79/80 Moment of > Symmetry
> 159-tET in the polyphonic expression of Maqamat".

Would you write things that have to be played in 79-tone, or could they also be played in 53-tone and whatever else is used for Turkish music?

(I'm asking because whatever I'm planning on writing in the near future could be played in 41- or 72-tet, or maybe pure 11-limit JI.)

~D.

🔗Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com>

4/20/2007 7:04:19 PM

----- Original Message -----
From: "Danny Wier" <dawiertx@sbcglobal.net>
To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 20 Nisan 2007 Cuma 1:54
Subject: Re: [tuning] An experimental piece in a mode of 80 MOS 159-tET

> Ozan Yarman wrote:
>
> [me]
> >> I got a challenge for you if you have time: write preludes and fugues
> >> (prelude as either Bach, Chopin or Rachmaninov would've written),
except
> >> instead of one of each in all the keys, write them in each maqam.
> >
> > Danny, you have given me inspiration with this challenge. Time will tell
> > whether or not I am up to composing "79-tone Preludes and Fugues
> > demonstrating the quasi-just harmonic resources of 79/80 Moment of
> > Symmetry
> > 159-tET in the polyphonic expression of Maqamat".
>
> Would you write things that have to be played in 79-tone, or could they
also
> be played in 53-tone and whatever else is used for Turkish music?
>
> (I'm asking because whatever I'm planning on writing in the near future
> could be played in 41- or 72-tet, or maybe pure 11-limit JI.)
>

Well, the Sagittal mixed notation for 79/80 MOS 159-tET is backwards
compatible with 72-tET. I guess you could also quantize everything to
53-tET, but what's the benefit in doing so? The commatic system is
professed, but never applied to any instrument of Maqam Music AFAIK.

If you agree to the usage of the 79-tone tuning as a quasi-just skeletal
system, then we are quits.

> ~D.
>
>

Oz.