can't find that book

Because I am psychic, and because Paul E mentioned it maybe 86 times
in the space of a week, I thought it might be a good idea to acquire a
copy of Allen Forte's "Tonal Harmony in Concept and Practice".

Well ptooi on me: it's out of print! Amazon did some e-search for me
starting a couple of weeks ago, and I just got the results: NUTTIN!

So, here I am, wanting to fill in some blanks in my knowledge in order
to achieve a more perfect tuning, with the potential side benefit of
being better able to beat up on Paul E (just kidding, Paul...), and I'm
empty handed!

Does anybody want to sell or loan me this book? I'll post a hefty bond
against safe return, if loaned. Plus pay postage, of course!

And/or, other recommendations, of book(s) possibly still in print?
Thanks in advance, everyone!

JdL

On Mon, 20 Dec 1999, John A. deLaubenfels wrote:
> Because I am psychic, and because Paul E mentioned it maybe 86 times
> in the space of a week, I thought it might be a good idea to acquire a
> copy of Allen Forte's "Tonal Harmony in Concept and Practice".
>
> Well ptooi on me: it's out of print! Amazon did some e-search for me
> starting a couple of weeks ago, and I just got the results: NUTTIN!
>
[snip]
>
> Does anybody want to sell or loan me this book? I'll post a hefty bond
> against safe return, if loaned. Plus pay postage, of course!

You know, there _are_ such things as libraries . . .

--pH the Music Library guy

<manynote@library.wustl.edu> http://library.wustl.edu/~manynote
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/\ "Churchill? Can he run a hundred balls?"
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[Paul Hahn, TD 449.10:]
>You know, there _are_ such things as libraries . . .

>--pH the Music Library guy

Let me see if I can guess: you have access to a library at a large
university, yes? County libraries aren't usually full of books on
music theory, but I'll check...

On Tue, 21 Dec 1999, John A. deLaubenfels wrote:
> [Paul Hahn, TD 449.10:]
>> You know, there _are_ such things as libraries . . .
>
>> --pH the Music Library guy
>
>
> Let me see if I can guess: you have access to a library at a large
> university, yes? County libraries aren't usually full of books on
> music theory, but I'll check...

There is _also_ such a thing as InterLibrary Loan.

--pH <manynote@library.wustl.edu> http://library.wustl.edu/~manynote
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[Paul Hahn, TD 450.6:]
>There is _also_ such a thing as InterLibrary Loan.

Right again. And in an pinch I would probably try to go that route.
Luckily, a list member wrote me and suggested www.bookfinder.com and
www.bibliofind.com, services I was not aware of. In a flash I had the
book on order from a store Down Under.

Somehow I had the naive idea that amazon.com would do a good search, but
they apparently don't use these other services.

Thanks to everyone who responded to my plea!

JdL

[Gerald Eskelin:]
>>Why is it important? Just because Paul E mentioned it maybe 86 times?
>>Okay, I guess that's important enough. Did Forte actually say
>>something significant? Perhaps I was too young to notice.

[Paul Erlich:]
>Look, you can drop the attitude -- John said he hadn't studied
>classical tonal analysis and I thought I'd give him an example where he
>could learn about diatonic chord functions, linear harmonic devices,
>etc., in the context of the Western common-practice repertoire. I
>suppose you'd do away with all classical tonal analysis and replace it
>with . . . ?

I don't know if Gerald meant his comment in an "attitude" way, but...
What's ironic is that I of all people may be the biggest "out with the
old and in with the new" guy on this whole list. OK, so that's an
exaggeration, and, right, Margo, I've gotta emphasize that the "old" is
just fine too... BUT, I'd be really dumb not to want to tap into
significant bits of theory here and there, stuff that was in the heads
of people as they composed in the past. I respect Paul's knowledge,
and since I wanted to read something of the sort, it seems smart to take
his recommendation. If I decide it's not useful to what I'm trying to
do, at least I'll be able to answer Paul's posts better than I can now!

BTW, the Australian Connection for Forte's "Tonal Harmony in Concept and
Practice" fell thru: turned out someone else beat me to it! But John
Starrett in Denver has offered to loan me his till I find one.

JdL