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Fun with pun (??)

🔗Joseph Pehrson <josephpehrson@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx>

12/18/1999 10:12:49 AM

Could anyone please explain to me why using a pitch as a pivot for two
different harmonic chords is considered a "pun?"

Does the term apply to pitch frequencies that somehow manage to intersect
different simultaneous tuning systems??

Generally speaking, the term "pun" implies a kind of irony, at least in
language.

From Webster's: [Orig. unknown] "A play on words, occas. on different
senses of the same word and occas. on the similar sense or sound of
different words..."

Hummm... (??) Please help define.

Joseph Pehrson

🔗Paul H. Erlich <PErlich@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx>

12/19/1999 2:43:15 PM

Joseph Pehrson wrote,

>Could anyone please explain to me why using a pitch as a pivot for two
>different harmonic chords is considered a "pun?"

>Generally speaking, the term "pun" implies a kind of irony, at least in
>language.

Well, then, perhaps "homophone" would be a better word -- two different
meanings, one sound. For example, in the major scale the note "D" has two
different "meanings" in a JI sense -- it can be either a 6:5 below 4/3
(i.e., 10/9), or a 3:2 above 3/2 (i.e., 9/8).

🔗est@xxxxxxxxx.xxx

12/19/1999 3:05:08 PM

Paul H. Erlich discourseth:
> Joseph Pehrson wrote,
>
> >Could anyone please explain to me why using a pitch as a pivot for two
> >different harmonic chords is considered a "pun?"
>
> Well, then, perhaps "homophone" would be a better word -- two different
> meanings, one sound.

Greek rhetorical theory distinguished between paronomasia and
antanaclasis..non-homophonic and homophonic puns respectively.

Considered as puns, I've always found paronomasia to have more bite
because of the `forced match' the mind is called upon to do.

However, I suspect that the true measure of a pun is in the `oy' of
the beholder.

E