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Hey gang, check this out!

🔗Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com>

2/3/2007 7:11:13 PM

http://www.ozanyarman.com/files/music/Yarman_Invention_19edo.mp3

My humble gratitude to Jon L. Smith for this marvelous rendition.

Oz.

🔗Dante Rosati <danterosati@gmail.com>

2/3/2007 7:34:49 PM

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🔗Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com>

2/3/2007 7:50:17 PM

Then press the repeat track button, or place a reprise before the last measure and raise the pitch of the entire piece each time by a semitone up. What is it called, a rosalie?

Oz.
----- Original Message -----
From: Dante Rosati
To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 04 Şubat 2007 Pazar 5:34
Subject: Re: [tuning] Hey gang, check this out!

Excellent! I only wish it were 5X longer!

On 2/3/07, Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com> wrote:
http://www.ozanyarman.com/files/music/Yarman_Invention_19edo.mp3

My humble gratitude to Jon L. Smith for this marvelous rendition.

Oz.

🔗Dante Rosati <danterosati@gmail.com>

2/3/2007 7:58:52 PM

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🔗Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com>

2/3/2007 8:03:10 PM

Ah, you get the picture. So is the consequence of your wish.

Oz.
----- Original Message -----
From: Dante Rosati
To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 04 Şubat 2007 Pazar 5:58
Subject: Re: [tuning] Hey gang, check this out!

no i think that would be called "boring"

On 2/3/07, Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com> wrote:

Then press the repeat track button, or place a reprise before the last measure and raise the pitch of the entire piece each time by a semitone up. What is it called, a rosalie?

Oz.
----- Original Message -----
From: Dante Rosati
To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 04 ªubat 2007 Pazar 5:34
Subject: Re: [tuning] Hey gang, check this out!

Excellent! I only wish it were 5X longer!

On 2/3/07, Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com> wrote:
http://www.ozanyarman.com/files/music/Yarman_Invention_19edo.mp3

My humble gratitude to Jon L. Smith for this marvelous rendition.

Oz.

🔗Dante Rosati <danterosati@gmail.com>

2/3/2007 8:23:43 PM

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🔗Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com>

2/3/2007 8:30:00 PM

The whole point of a delicacy is to let the savourer crave for it more without actually having the stomach for it.

Oz.
----- Original Message -----
From: Dante Rosati
To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 04 Şubat 2007 Pazar 6:23
Subject: Re: [tuning] Hey gang, check this out!

i dont think so- the material there sounds like it could be extended quite a bit with very interesting results. but its your piece so its as long as you say it is!

🔗Carl Lumma <clumma@yahoo.com>

2/3/2007 10:14:18 PM

> http://www.ozanyarman.com/files/music/Yarman_Invention_19edo.mp3
>
> My humble gratitude to Jon L. Smith for this marvelous rendition.
>
> Oz.

That rockz!

I like the apparently slower tempo (than your version). I also
like the piece at the length it is. Would make fantastic
"station identification" piece for a microtonal radio station.

-Carl

🔗Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com>

2/4/2007 6:51:19 AM

Or a blog theme. Thanks!

Oz.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Lumma" <clumma@yahoo.com>
To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 04 �ubat 2007 Pazar 8:14
Subject: [tuning] Re: Hey gang, check this out!

> > http://www.ozanyarman.com/files/music/Yarman_Invention_19edo.mp3
> >
> > My humble gratitude to Jon L. Smith for this marvelous rendition.
> >
> > Oz.
>
> That rockz!
>
> I like the apparently slower tempo (than your version). I also
> like the piece at the length it is. Would make fantastic
> "station identification" piece for a microtonal radio station.
>
> -Carl
>
>
>

🔗Aaron Krister Johnson <aaron@dividebypi.com>

2/5/2007 6:51:59 AM

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Ozan Yarman" <ozanyarman@...> wrote:
>
> http://www.ozanyarman.com/files/music/Yarman_Invention_19edo.mp3
>
> My humble gratitude to Jon L. Smith for this marvelous rendition.

This is great!

It also proves yet again what a fine tuning 19-eq is, in spite of many
folks poo-pooing its properties 'on paper' (e.g. the fifths are too
flat, etc)

I agree with Ivor Darreg that 19-eq is a great place to start
exploring microtonality---it leaves off from 12-eq nicely, people can
write in that language 'with a twist', and there are not too many more
notes to deal with, so it's conceptually 'clean'.

Best,
Aaron

🔗Gene Ward Smith <genewardsmith@coolgoose.com>

2/5/2007 11:12:31 AM

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron Krister Johnson" <aaron@...>
wrote:

> It also proves yet again what a fine tuning 19-eq is, in spite of many
> folks poo-pooing its properties 'on paper' (e.g. the fifths are too
> flat, etc)

19-et scores very high on paper, and I don't recall it being poo-pooed.
Even after adjusting for its size, it scores better than 12 for equally
weighted in the 5 limit. In terms of "logflat badness", comparing it to
what you would expect for a tuning of its size, it not only looks good
on paper in the 5-limit, it looks OK in the 7 and 9 limits. That's
relatively speaking, of course, and so do 12 and 15. By comparison, on
paper 17 looks fairly rotten in the 5, 7, 9, 11 etc limits, and I think
listening bears that out.

Here is something from the On-Line Encyclopedia of Integer Sequences,
showing the scale divisions which give increasingly large values for
the integral of the absolute value of the Riemann zeta function between
the two zeros associated to the division. A division on this list,
which starts 2, 5, 7, 12, 19, 31, 41, 53, 72, 130, 171, 224, 270,
should be considered quite exceptional. Note that 19 *is* on this short
list.

http://www.research.att.com/~njas/sequences/A117538

Here's a related list where it's a little easier to make the cut:

http://www.research.att.com/~njas/sequences/A117536

🔗yahya_melb <yahya@melbpc.org.au>

2/6/2007 9:13:29 AM

Ozan Yarman wrote:
>
> The whole point of a delicacy is to let the savourer crave for it
more without actually having the stomach for it.
>
> Oz.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dante Rosati
>
> i dont think so- the material there sounds like it could be
extended quite a bit with very interesting results. but its your
piece so its as long as you say it is!

Hmmm ... found this quite to my taste - and no need
for this morsel to "repeat"!

But that it is a tiny morsel is obvious from the
surprisingly abrupt ending. We can thank Jon for
letting us savour it a little longer, whereas you,
Oz, would have us toss it down like a shot!

Mes compliments au chef ...
Yahya

🔗monz <monz@tonalsoft.com>

2/7/2007 12:00:11 AM

Hi Aaron,

I agree with you. Jonathan Glasier and Brink have recorded
hundreds of improvs in 19-edo, and i've been fortunate to
join them in a few ... and i wish i had time to join them
more often! I've discovered so many cool scales in 19-edo
that i'd like to explore more at home in my own compositions.
But there are so many tunings to play with ...

-monz
http://tonalsoft.com
Tonescape microtonal music software

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron Krister Johnson" <aaron@...> wrote:

> It also proves yet again what a fine tuning 19-eq is, in
> spite of many folks poo-pooing its properties 'on paper'
> (e.g. the fifths are too flat, etc)
>
> I agree with Ivor Darreg that 19-eq is a great place to
> start exploring microtonality---it leaves off from 12-eq
> nicely, people can write in that language 'with a twist',
> and there are not too many more notes to deal with, so it's
> conceptually 'clean'.

🔗Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com>

2/7/2007 7:55:32 AM

Oh come on, it was as long as it takes one to gobble up a Turkish delight.

Thanks for the compliments!
Oz.

SNIP

>
> Hmmm ... found this quite to my taste - and no need
> for this morsel to "repeat"!
>
> But that it is a tiny morsel is obvious from the
> surprisingly abrupt ending. We can thank Jon for
> letting us savour it a little longer, whereas you,
> Oz, would have us toss it down like a shot!
>
> Mes compliments au chef ...
> Yahya
>
>
>