back to list

Two Part Invention in 17ET

🔗Aaron Andrew Hunt <aahunt@h-pi.com>

1/27/2007 5:10:19 PM

New piece in 17ET written today and posted as a MIDI file here:

http://www.h-pi.com/downloads.html

"Two Part Invention in 17ET" is my first composition using a Tuning Box with a standard
MIDI keyboard and standard notation software (Overture for Mac OSX).

Yours,
Aaron Hunt
H-Pi Instruments

🔗Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com>

1/27/2007 5:54:16 PM

Sounds very good. I have a two-part invention myself. Could it be likewise
tuned to 19ET?

It is here and composed in an unusual 7/8 time signature:

http://www.ozanyarman.com/mainpage/compositions.html
http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/Invention.mid

I use it in my cell-phone too.

Oz.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Aaron Andrew Hunt" <aahunt@h-pi.com>
To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 28 Ocak 2007 Pazar 3:10
Subject: [tuning] Two Part Invention in 17ET

> New piece in 17ET written today and posted as a MIDI file here:
>
> http://www.h-pi.com/downloads.html
>
> "Two Part Invention in 17ET" is my first composition using a Tuning Box
with a standard
> MIDI keyboard and standard notation software (Overture for Mac OSX).
>
> Yours,
> Aaron Hunt
> H-Pi Instruments
>
>

🔗Aaron Andrew Hunt <aahunt@h-pi.com>

1/27/2007 8:05:21 PM

Ozan, thanks for this; your invention is a brilliant piece! I think it sounds great in 12.

Yours,
Aaron Hunt
H-Pi Instruments

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Ozan Yarman" <ozanyarman@...> wrote:
>
> Sounds very good. I have a two-part invention myself. Could it be likewise
> tuned to 19ET?
>
> It is here and composed in an unusual 7/8 time signature:
>
> http://www.ozanyarman.com/mainpage/compositions.html
> http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/Invention.mid
>
> I use it in my cell-phone too.
>
> Oz.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Aaron Andrew Hunt" <aahunt@...>
> To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: 28 Ocak 2007 Pazar 3:10
> Subject: [tuning] Two Part Invention in 17ET
>
>
> > New piece in 17ET written today and posted as a MIDI file here:
> >
> > http://www.h-pi.com/downloads.html
> >
> > "Two Part Invention in 17ET" is my first composition using a Tuning Box
> with a standard
> > MIDI keyboard and standard notation software (Overture for Mac OSX).
> >
> > Yours,
> > Aaron Hunt
> > H-Pi Instruments
> >
> >
>

🔗yahya_melb <yahya@melbpc.org.au>

1/28/2007 6:55:27 AM

Aaron Andrew Hunt wrote:
>
> New piece in 17ET written today and posted as a MIDI file here:
>
> http://www.h-pi.com/downloads.html
>
> "Two Part Invention in 17ET" is my first composition using a Tuning
Box with a standard
> MIDI keyboard and standard notation software (Overture for Mac OSX).
>
> Yours,
> Aaron Hunt
> H-Pi Instruments

Now, that was a pleasant listen! - demonstrating amply that 17-EDO is
perfectly fine for "pure music". I switched the timbres to various
pianos, vibraphones and harpsichords, and *still* liked it quite as
well.

Not to provoke the diehards, but: I venture to suggest that had
Johann Sebastian had access to a keyboard tuned in 17-EDO, he would
have liked this for many of the same reasons we still enjoy his music
today ...

Now I think I should return to your webpage to see what else you've
been up to.

Regards,
Yahya

🔗Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com>

1/28/2007 8:29:06 AM

Thanks very much.

Oz.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Aaron Andrew Hunt" <aahunt@h-pi.com>
To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 28 Ocak 2007 Pazar 6:05
Subject: [tuning] Re: Two Part Invention in 17ET

> Ozan, thanks for this; your invention is a brilliant piece! I think it
sounds great in 12.
>
> Yours,
> Aaron Hunt
> H-Pi Instruments
>

🔗Gene Ward Smith <genewardsmith@coolgoose.com>

1/28/2007 11:31:01 AM

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "yahya_melb" <yahya@...> wrote:

> Not to provoke the diehards, but: I venture to suggest that had
> Johann Sebastian had access to a keyboard tuned in 17-EDO, he would
> have liked this for many of the same reasons we still enjoy his music
> today ...

Sure, he could have done the same thing he did with wolf intervals in
actual life--play chords which bring out the nasties, and laugh at the
tuner. No doubt he would have enjoyed that but not ever considered it
was acceptable for playing music on. NO chance, none at all.

In the seventeenth century Brouncker suggested 17 edo. Brouncker was a
distinguished English mathematician, who had pioneered continued
fractions and their application, and was possessed of a PhD from
Oxford. The reaction of musicians was to laugh at him, and to opine
that mathematicians who didn't understand music had best not try to
mess with it. No one took it seriously, and they would have taken it
even less seriously if anyone had tried it.

What Bach might have taken seriously would have been a 17 note
keyboard with split keys. It was not the system he used, but he would
have been aware of the possibility. If you split each of the black
keys on a Halberstadt into a sharp version (lower) and a flat version
(higher) you get a compass ranging from Gb to A#, which isn't bad. You
don't get a wolf fifth at all in this way, since the interval which
completes the circle is nowhere near a fifth. Tuning the fifths to
696.713 cents makes it an 18/11, in fact, which is a unidecimal
neutral sixth. Probably not an interval Bach would find much use for.

🔗Carl Lumma <clumma@yahoo.com>

1/28/2007 11:42:15 AM

> Sounds very good. I have a two-part invention myself.
//
> http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/Invention.mid
>
> I use it in my cell-phone too.
>
> Oz.

Oz, that's great! Easily the best ring-tone I've heard.

-Carl

🔗Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com>

1/28/2007 1:14:48 PM

Much appreciated my spirited colleague!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Lumma" <clumma@yahoo.com>
To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 28 Ocak 2007 Pazar 21:42
Subject: [tuning] Re: Two Part Invention in 17ET

> > Sounds very good. I have a two-part invention myself.
> //
> > http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/Invention.mid
> >
> > I use it in my cell-phone too.
> >
> > Oz.
>
> Oz, that's great! Easily the best ring-tone I've heard.
>
> -Carl
>
>

🔗Aaron Krister Johnson <aaron@dividebypi.com>

1/28/2007 1:28:54 PM

Ozan,

That invention *rocks*!!!

-A.

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Ozan Yarman" <ozanyarman@...> wrote:
>
> Sounds very good. I have a two-part invention myself. Could it be
likewise
> tuned to 19ET?
>
> It is here and composed in an unusual 7/8 time signature:
>
> http://www.ozanyarman.com/mainpage/compositions.html
> http://www.ozanyarman.com/misc/Invention.mid
>
> I use it in my cell-phone too.
>
> Oz.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Aaron Andrew Hunt" <aahunt@...>
> To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: 28 Ocak 2007 Pazar 3:10
> Subject: [tuning] Two Part Invention in 17ET
>
>
> > New piece in 17ET written today and posted as a MIDI file here:
> >
> > http://www.h-pi.com/downloads.html
> >
> > "Two Part Invention in 17ET" is my first composition using a
Tuning Box
> with a standard
> > MIDI keyboard and standard notation software (Overture for Mac OSX).
> >
> > Yours,
> > Aaron Hunt
> > H-Pi Instruments
> >
> >
>

🔗Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com>

1/28/2007 4:26:28 PM

Glad you liked it. Makes me all the happier.

Oz.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Aaron Krister Johnson" <aaron@dividebypi.com>
To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 28 Ocak 2007 Pazar 23:28
Subject: [tuning] Re: Two Part Invention in 17ET

>
> Ozan,
>
> That invention *rocks*!!!
>
> -A.
>