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corigliano quartertones?

🔗Jacob <jbarton@rice.edu>

1/11/2007 1:32:21 AM

Anyone heard this CD?

<http://www.amazon.com/Corigliano-Fantasy-Fantasia-Ostinato-Chiaroscuro/dp/B000EUMKP4>

The final piece, "Chiaroscuro", is for two pianos tuned apart, so say
the liner notes, by a quarter tone. The difference between them
sounds to me much smaller, perhaps as if the tuner took "quarter tone"
to mean "quarter of a semitone" - i.e. eighth tones. I bet you can't
hear from the Amazon sound samples because it takes a while for him to
get into it. It sounds way subtle.

I wonder what Corigliano wanted.

Reminds me also of 'Fantango' for harpsichord by Jukka Tiensuu, with
the two manuals a quartertone apart, but for which I have a recording
in nothing but plain ol' 12TET. Booooooriiiiing, and a more
open-and-shut case of subversion of intentions than with JSBach...

...scale of the week = chains of subminor thirds...

🔗Carl Lumma <clumma@yahoo.com>

1/11/2007 9:18:26 AM

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Jacob" <jbarton@...> wrote:
>
> Anyone heard this CD?
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Corigliano-Fantasy-Fantasia-Ostinato-
> Chiaroscuro/dp/B000EUMKP4
>
> The final piece, "Chiaroscuro", is for two pianos tuned apart,
> so say the liner notes, by a quarter tone.

Is this the last three tracks? Hm.

-Carl

🔗Gene Ward Smith <genewardsmith@coolgoose.com>

1/11/2007 11:59:00 AM

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Jacob" <jbarton@...> wrote:

> ...scale of the week = chains of subminor thirds...

Chains of sharp subminor thirds as in orwell temperament have been
discussed a lot; these are 271+ cents in size. Then there is the
subminor third of exactly 266.666... cents, which forms a complete
circle. What did you have in mind?

🔗Jacob <jbarton@rice.edu>

1/11/2007 7:56:30 PM

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Gene Ward Smith" <genewardsmith@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Jacob" <jbarton@> wrote:
>
> > ...scale of the week = chains of subminor thirds...
>
> Chains of sharp subminor thirds as in orwell temperament have been
> discussed a lot; these are 271+ cents in size. Then there is the
> subminor third of exactly 266.666... cents, which forms a complete
> circle. What did you have in mind?

Oh, I don't have a specific design in mind; been messing with keyboard
layouts that are mapped to chains of them (reduced to within an
octave). It's interesting that both 13-edo and 14-edo have subminor
thirds of sorts. But more on the purer 23, 31 side of the tree. An
interesting sound is the 4:5:6:7 tetrads moving by subminor thirds.
Reminds me a lot of some of your music, possibly the 45000 fingers of
Dr. S.

Having real trouble connecting my harmless abstract studies and
meanderings to subtler "real-music" notions of counterpoint, melody,
voice-leading, or at least my impressions of them...