retuning Finale

Dear Tuning folks

I am soliciting your advice on the matter of adjusting the sounding pitches of the playback
feature in the Finale music notation program. I have almost no computer expertise, so the
simplest solution is preferred. Fyi, I am interested primarily in using extended just intonation
scales. Also, I am running Finale 2003 on mac OS 10.4.6.

Thanks for your time.

-Flynn

Hi Flynn,

If no one here give you any info, you might try posting at Making
Microtonal Music:

/makemicromusic/

... and offshoot of this list. There is at least one member there that
uses Finale with notation tweaks and pitch bends, Rick McGowan. Bear
in mind that this is *not* simplistic stuff right now, as Finale isn't
built from the ground up for microtonal work. You might also need to
upgrade to a new version, not sure.

Let me see if I still have a link to his page...

Ah, yes:
http://rm-and-jo.laughingsquid.org/FTS-HowTo/MicroOrchestra.html

The big drag in your case is Rick is on a PC, and part of the solution
is using an external program to relay the midi signals to a sound
source, tuning along the way - and all the apps he tried/uses are PC
based. Maybe Mac people will know.

The other option, on a Mac, would be to consider Logic, which Charles
Lucy uses (on this list) successfully. I don't know if the lite
version has this capability, but worth checking out.

OK, that's all from someone who neither owns a Mac or uses Finale!

Cheers,
Jon

Hi Flynn,

The only thing i have to say about this is that trying to
do any kind of just-intonation in Finale is a nightmare,
because tuning adjustments are based on deviations from
12-edo. It would be much easier to define a tuning which
is some type of equal-temperament.

If you can wait (i wish i could say how long), the current
version of Tonescape will be released as a free demo in the
somewhat-near future. Composing in JI in Tonescape is as
easy as blinking your eyes.

-monz
http://tonalsoft.com
Tonescape microtonal music software

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "tennisorphan" <tennisorphan@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Tuning folks
>
> I am soliciting your advice on the matter of adjusting the sounding
pitches of the playback
> feature in the Finale music notation program. I have almost no
computer expertise, so the
> simplest solution is preferred. Fyi, I am interested primarily in
using extended just intonation
> scales. Also, I am running Finale 2003 on mac OS 10.4.6.
>
> Thanks for your time.
>
> -Flynn
>

Monz,

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "monz" <monz@...> wrote:
> If you can wait (i wish i could say how long), the current
> version of Tonescape will be released as a free demo in the
> somewhat-near future. Composing in JI in Tonescape is as
> easy as blinking your eyes.

That is, unless you are on a Mac, which apparently Flynn *is*.

Cheers,
Jon

> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "monz" <monz@> wrote:
> > If you can wait (i wish i could say how long), the current
> > version of Tonescape will be released as a free demo in the
> > somewhat-near future. Composing in JI in Tonescape is as
> > easy as blinking your eyes.
>
> That is, unless you are on a Mac, which apparently Flynn *is*.

I should think, to anyone serious about composing in JI,
the cost of a PC just to run Tonescape shouldn't be a concern.
The requisit hardware can't cost more than $600 new, which
is hardly more than Finale. Let alone the possibility of
getting something used off of craigslist. Or, if you have
a late-model Mac, booting Windows on it.

-Carl

Carl,

Man, are you in trouble: I just spilled coffee all over my keyboard,
laughing as I read your response!

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Lumma" <clumma@...> wrote:
> I should think, to anyone serious about composing in JI...

Cheers,
Jon

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I'm now corresponding with Flynn off-list, but other people in his
situation might want to look at Harmony Assitant:

http://www.myriad-online.com/en/products/harmony.htm

Cheers,
Jon

> Man, are you in trouble: I just spilled coffee all over my keyboard,
> laughing as I read your response!

Why's that [plane-flying-over-head-noise]?

-Carl

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Lumma" <clumma@...> wrote:
>
> > --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "monz" <monz@> wrote:
> > > If you can wait (i wish i could say how long), the current
> > > version of Tonescape will be released as a free demo in the
> > > somewhat-near future. Composing in JI in Tonescape is as
> > > easy as blinking your eyes.
> >
> > That is, unless you are on a Mac, which apparently Flynn *is*.
>
> I should think, to anyone serious about composing in JI,
> the cost of a PC just to run Tonescape shouldn't be a concern.
> The requisit hardware can't cost more than $600 new, which
> is hardly more than Finale. Let alone the possibility of
> getting something used off of craigslist. Or, if you have
> a late-model Mac, booting Windows on it.
>
> -Carl

You can get a used desktop Windows machine good enough to
run Tonescape for about $200 or maybe even less.

You certainly won't need the upcoming Windows Vista,
because Tonescape is designed to run optimally on Windows XP.
It also runs fine on Windows 2000 (which is what i have on
my own system), and in one case has been cajoled into running
on Windows 98.

I don't know if Tonescape will run on the Mac version of
Windows, because it makes heavy use of Microsoft's proprietary
.net and DirectX features. But i really don't know anything
about Mac ... and since i've finally just recently made the
leap into Linux (and love it), i doubt if i'll ever bother
with Mac.

And no, we don't have any plans for a Linux version of
Tonescape any time soon. Probably eventually, but it's
a long way off.

-monz
http://tonalsoft.com
Tonescape microtonal music software

How about ME?

SNIP

>
> You certainly won't need the upcoming Windows Vista,
> because Tonescape is designed to run optimally on Windows XP.
> It also runs fine on Windows 2000 (which is what i have on
> my own system), and in one case has been cajoled into running
> on Windows 98.
>
> I don't know if Tonescape will run on the Mac version of
> Windows, because it makes heavy use of Microsoft's proprietary
> .net and DirectX features. But i really don't know anything
> about Mac ... and since i've finally just recently made the
> leap into Linux (and love it), i doubt if i'll ever bother
> with Mac.
>
> And no, we don't have any plans for a Linux version of
> Tonescape any time soon. Probably eventually, but it's
> a long way off.
>
>
> -monz
> http://tonalsoft.com
> Tonescape microtonal music software
>
>