Artists are crazy, but not mathematicians?

I hope this doesn't spawn a big thread, but I thought
some here might find it interesting:

http://www.staff.ncl.ac.uk/daniel.nettle/jrp.pdf

I don't know if I'd peg our resident mathematician(s) as
anti-crazy, though. :)

-Carl

I qualify as a bi-polar bordering on the manic-depressive.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Lumma" <clumma@yahoo.com>
To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 07 Aral�k 2006 Per�embe 7:43
Subject: [tuning] Artists are crazy, but not mathematicians?

> I hope this doesn't spawn a big thread, but I thought
> some here might find it interesting:
>
> http://www.staff.ncl.ac.uk/daniel.nettle/jrp.pdf
>
> I don't know if I'd peg our resident mathematician(s) as
> anti-crazy, though. :)
>
> -Carl
>
>

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Ozan Yarman" <ozanyarman@...> wrote:
> I qualify as a bi-polar bordering on the manic-depressive.

Really? I sufferred my whole life with it. Until about 2002-3,
when it (mostly) went into remission.
Here in the U.S. at least, the term "manic depressive" is being
phased out in favor of the term "bipolar" (with its "type I" and
"type II" variants... and for all I know they're up to type IV
by now).
The disease is especially common with artists, and though some
of the genetics responsible may be beneficial in more dilute form,
there's very little to recommend in the full compliment. Except
the highest highs that can possibly be experienced, if you're
into that. :) Er, but I digress,

-Carl

Interesting. Mine is somewhat evansecent with occasional gusts. But I would
call it a malady, and not a disease.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Lumma" <clumma@yahoo.com>
To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 07 Aral�k 2006 Per�embe 11:40
Subject: [tuning] Re: Artists are crazy, but not mathematicians?

> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Ozan Yarman" <ozanyarman@...> wrote:
> > I qualify as a bi-polar bordering on the manic-depressive.
>
> Really? I sufferred my whole life with it. Until about 2002-3,
> when it (mostly) went into remission.
> Here in the U.S. at least, the term "manic depressive" is being
> phased out in favor of the term "bipolar" (with its "type I" and
> "type II" variants... and for all I know they're up to type IV
> by now).
> The disease is especially common with artists, and though some
> of the genetics responsible may be beneficial in more dilute form,
> there's very little to recommend in the full compliment. Except
> the highest highs that can possibly be experienced, if you're
> into that. :) Er, but I digress,
>
> -Carl
>

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Lumma" wrote:
>
> I hope this doesn't spawn a big thread, but I thought
> some here might find it interesting:
>
> http://www.staff.ncl.ac.uk/daniel.nettle/jrp.pdf
>
> I don't know if I'd peg our resident mathematician(s) as
> anti-crazy, though. :)

Carl! You the man! I was hunting for this article
so as to continue a discussion on a synopsis of it,
in the popular science (e-)press, with a friend.

Thanks heaps!

Yahya

> Interesting. Mine is somewhat evansecent with occasional gusts.
> But I would call it a malady, and not a disease.

Everyone experiences mood cycles. It only makes sense to call
it a disease when it causes serious problems (like car accidents,
poor money management, or suicide). It's not a disease in the
sense that there is any scientific diagnosis, treatment, or
understanding of it. It only makes sense to say you have it if
that thinking helps you. In my case, it seems to have, but it's
hard to say.

-Carl

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Lumma" <clumma@...> wrote:
>
> I hope this doesn't spawn a big thread, but I thought
> some here might find it interesting:
>
> http://www.staff.ncl.ac.uk/daniel.nettle/jrp.pdf
>
> I don't know if I'd peg our resident mathematician(s) as
> anti-crazy, though. :)

I was depressed to read that mathematicians scored lower than the
general population on unusual experiences, until I read the definition
of unusual experiences (hallucinations and delusions.)