My last word on this for a while

>From: John Starrett <jstarret@math.cudenver.edu>
>
>All-
> What an unexpectedly (to me) contentious issue this thread of
>faithfulness to the composer's wishes is! Now that I've said more than my
>share I will shut up after this: If we all had computers with software
>that would allow us to compose and record, even perform whatever was in
>our heads...

What? Do you really think that a computer-generated sequence of sounds is
in the same category as live performance by human beings? I've heard
musicians complain about the work they lose because of DJ's playing
recorded music, but do we now have *composers* who want to remove the human
element entirely from performance?

John Link

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> What? Do you really think that a computer-generated sequence of sounds is
> in the same category as live performance by human beings?
>

Yes
and computers don't get double scale and what not
see Zappa's Yo Cats

In a message dated 12/11/1999 01:20:26 AM:
>> What? Do you really think that a computer-generated sequence of sounds is
>> in the same category as live performance by human beings?

Personally I can not wait to be able to do improvisations with an
AI-augmented (Artificial Intelligence) personal computer.

Besides as many programmers know: GIGO... Garbage In Garbage Out...

The tools & means are not really the important issue - it's the human
creativity in (&/or behind) the process of creation that is more important
than this false dichotomy between ourselves & what we have created/what we
create.

zHANg

amen zHANG
i feel, if anything, freed as someone who enjoys "composing" & arranging time
based media
with the help of kompooter. Csound enabled me (a la nancarow) to realize high
primes and lightning fast accuracies that i could hear in my head but not get
the ensemble to construe correctly. We would have free-form JI improvisation 2-3
times a week and maybe 1- 20 minute segment out of say 6-10 hours would be
something i felt as musical director at that point should be explored.
"musicians" would come into the environment usually a sine environment either
using the 17 at 272hz or some other pitch maybe an undertone 3/7<14/13 or what
have you and would resort to a musicians mentality with all the useless...Am i
loud enough? when can i solo? poop
i think the other point for "composers" of Electroacoutic,interactive,
acousmatic or whatever is to trust your own beliefs and as someone said earlier
regarding bartok ----Do not remove yr microtones for Sir yehudi------
who ended up playing what Shankar told him anyway :-)

I won't make a difference now that they have made music illegal anyways