Stretch in New York

I heard Stretch in New York at the Coda club. That's Paul Erlich's
group, as many of you know. They were quite good. I really enjoyed
their playing, especially the first tunes. I had the feeling they
were maybe playing it a bit more "straight" than some of the more
experimental things I had heard in the past, and I didn't hear many
microtones... at least not *intentional* ones. I also didn't hear as
many complex (international) Middle Eastern rhythms, which I
remembered from the past.

But, nevertheless, the club was cool... even classy with big
chandeliers and a nice vibe. They played at what I considered a
reasonable volume level as well...

Paul seems to be taking quite a bit of the lead guitar work these
days, even though he said later that it was supposed to be "half and
half..." His "guitar chops" are really happening now, so it seems....

Good going, Paul!

Joe Pehrson

Thanks for writing in JP. Wish I coulda been there!

-Carl

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Joseph Pehrson" <jpehrson@...> wrote:
> I heard Stretch in New York at the Coda club. That's Paul Erlich's
> group, as many of you know. They were quite good. I really
> enjoyed their playing, especially the first tunes. I had the
> feeling they were maybe playing it a bit more "straight" than some
> of the more experimental things I had heard in the past, and I
> didn't hear many microtones... at least not *intentional* ones.
> I also didn't hear as many complex (international) Middle Eastern
> rhythms, which I remembered from the past.
>
> But, nevertheless, the club was cool... even classy with big
> chandeliers and a nice vibe. They played at what I considered a
> reasonable volume level as well...
>
> Paul seems to be taking quite a bit of the lead guitar work these
> days, even though he said later that it was supposed to be "half
> and half..." His "guitar chops" are really happening now, so it
> seems....
>
> Good going, Paul!
>
> Joe Pehrson

Joseph Pehrson wrote:

>I heard Stretch in New York at the Coda club. That's Paul Erlich's >group, as many of you know. They were quite good. >

Was it microtonal?

--
* David Beardsley
* microtonal guitar
* http://biink.com/db

> Joseph Pehrson wrote:
> >I heard Stretch in New York at the Coda club. That's Paul Erlich's
> >group, as many of you know. They were quite good.
>
> Was it microtonal?

As he said in the post, it was not microtonal (to his ear).

-Carl

Carl Lumma wrote:

>>Joseph Pehrson wrote:
>> >>
>>>I heard Stretch in New York at the Coda club. That's Paul Erlich's >>>group, as many of you know. They were quite good. >>> >>>
>>Was it microtonal?
>> >>
>
>As he said in the post, it was not microtonal (to his ear).
>
>-Carl
>
oops, missed that. sorry.

--
* David Beardsley
* microtonal guitar
* http://biink.com/db

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, David Beardsley <db@...> wrote:
>
> Carl Lumma wrote:
>
> >>Joseph Pehrson wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>I heard Stretch in New York at the Coda club. That's Paul
Erlich's
> >>>group, as many of you know. They were quite good.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Was it microtonal?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >As he said in the post, it was not microtonal (to his ear).
> >
> >-Carl
> >
> oops, missed that. sorry.
>
> --
> * David Beardsley
> * microtonal guitar
> * http://biink.com/db
>

***Well, in a way, that would be an unfair assessment. Paul Erlich
was doing some strong glisses on the famous Beatles tune that uses a
sitar.... I think it was written by George Harrison?? (My ignorance
of this is embarassing... :)

Hi, JP,

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Joseph Pehrson" wrote:
>
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, David Beardsley wrote:
> >
> > Carl Lumma wrote:
> >
> > >>Joseph Pehrson wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>I heard Stretch in New York at the Coda club. That's Paul
Erlich's group, as many of you know. They were quite good.
> > >>>
> > >>Was it microtonal?
> > >
> > >As he said in the post, it was not microtonal (to his ear).
> > >
> > >-Carl
> > >
> > oops, missed that. sorry.
> >
> > --
> > * David Beardsley
>
>
> ***Well, in a way, that would be an unfair assessment. Paul
Erlich was doing some strong glisses on the famous Beatles tune that
uses a sitar.... I think it was written by George Harrison?? (My
ignorance of this is embarassing... :)

"Within you without you", perhaps?

Regards,
Yahya

> > > >>Was it microtonal?
> > > >
> > > >As he said in the post, it was not microtonal (to his ear).
> >
> > ***Well, in a way, that would be an unfair assessment. Paul
> Erlich was doing some strong glisses on the famous Beatles tune that
> uses a sitar.... I think it was written by George Harrison?? (My
> ignorance of this is embarassing... :)
>
> "Within you without you", perhaps?

Norwegian wood, I'd guess. There are a few. Anyway, there are
lots of way to define "microtonal". I wouldn't think a band like
stretch would normally count. Of course in my view, all music
is mircotonal. But then the word loses its meaning, so I thought
my usage was fair. -Carl

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "yahya_melb" <yahya@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi, JP,
>
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Joseph Pehrson" wrote:
> >
> > --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, David Beardsley wrote:
> > >
> > > Carl Lumma wrote:
> > >
> > > >>Joseph Pehrson wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>I heard Stretch in New York at the Coda club. That's Paul
> Erlich's group, as many of you know. They were quite good.
> > > >>>
> > > >>Was it microtonal?
> > > >
> > > >As he said in the post, it was not microtonal (to his ear).
> > > >
> > > >-Carl
> > > >
> > > oops, missed that. sorry.
> > >
> > > --
> > > * David Beardsley
> >
> >
> > ***Well, in a way, that would be an unfair assessment. Paul
> Erlich was doing some strong glisses on the famous Beatles tune
that
> uses a sitar.... I think it was written by George Harrison?? (My
> ignorance of this is embarassing... :)
>
>
> "Within you without you", perhaps?
>
> Regards,
> Yahya
>

***Hi Yahya.

No I don't think so... I would have recognized that one. Could
somebody please help me if you can, I'm feeling down...

Here's the tune:

EEEEE, EEGE, G(down),

GGG, Bb C, GGG, Bb C

???

(I'm glad I'm not one of these dudes who sits around with earphones
on for ASCAP listening to the radio... of course I wouldn't be
hired, gratefully...)

JP

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Lumma" <clumma@...> wrote:
>
> > > > >>Was it microtonal?
> > > > >
> > > > >As he said in the post, it was not microtonal (to his ear).
> > >
> > > ***Well, in a way, that would be an unfair assessment. Paul
> > Erlich was doing some strong glisses on the famous Beatles tune
that
> > uses a sitar.... I think it was written by George Harrison?? (My
> > ignorance of this is embarassing... :)
> >
> > "Within you without you", perhaps?
>
> Norwegian wood, I'd guess. There are a few. Anyway, there are
> lots of way to define "microtonal". I wouldn't think a band like
> stretch would normally count. Of course in my view, all music
> is mircotonal. But then the word loses its meaning, so I thought
> my usage was fair. -Carl
>

***Yes, I think it was Carl, but so was your assessment, "to my
ear..." It's possible that the guitars were tuned strangely...
xeno... But, the frets looked standard from where I was sitting,
that's for sure...

JP

Hi Joe,

> Here's the tune:
>
> EEEEE, EEGE, G(down),
>
> GGG, Bb C, GGG, Bb C
>
> ???

Seems to me like you must be reffering to
"Tommorow Never Knows", from the album "Revolver".

Turn off you mind, relax and float downstream
E E E E, E G C E C G

It is not dying, it is not dying
G G G Bb C C, G G G Bb C C

yes?

-monz