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Ibn Sina and Farhat

🔗Cris Forster <cris.forster@comcast.net>

6/14/2006 9:34:32 PM

Danny,

For your enjoyment and edification, I just posted p. 1047 from my
book _Musical Mathematics: A Practice in the Mathematics of Tuning
Instruments and Analyzing Scales_. This pages shows a comparison of
interval ratios as found on Ibn Sina's ud and in Hormoz Farhat's
book: _The Dastgah Concept in Persian Music_, 1990. Cambridge
University Press, Cambridge, England.

Please logon to:

http://www.chrysalis-foundation.org > M.M. Pages > Ibn Sina & Farhat.

Or directly:

http://www.chrysalis-foundation.org/Ibn_Sina_&_Farhat.htm

Cris Forster, Music Director
www.chrysalis-foundation.org

🔗yahya_melb <yahya@melbpc.org.au>

6/15/2006 6:46:30 PM

Cris,

Thanks for the link, and also for showing how ibn Sina
derived some of the interval ratios as intervals above
or below others (as implied by the multiplications and
divisions).

Did ibn Sina describe his actual tuning procedure in
full?

Regards,
Yahya

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Cris Forster" <cris.forster@...>
wrote:
>
> Danny,
>
> For your enjoyment and edification, I just posted p. 1047 from my
> book _Musical Mathematics: A Practice in the Mathematics of Tuning
> Instruments and Analyzing Scales_. This pages shows a comparison
of
> interval ratios as found on Ibn Sina's ud and in Hormoz Farhat's
> book: _The Dastgah Concept in Persian Music_, 1990. Cambridge
> University Press, Cambridge, England.
>
> Please logon to:
>
> http://www.chrysalis-foundation.org > M.M. Pages > Ibn Sina &
Farhat.
>
> Or directly:
>
> http://www.chrysalis-foundation.org/Ibn_Sina_&_Farhat.htm
>
>
> Cris Forster, Music Director
> www.chrysalis-foundation.org
>

🔗Daniel A. Wier <dawiertx@sbcglobal.net>

6/15/2006 6:55:42 PM

Cris Forster wrote:

> Danny,
> > For your enjoyment and edification, I just posted p. 1047 from my > book _Musical Mathematics: A Practice in the Mathematics of Tuning > Instruments and Analyzing Scales_. This pages shows a comparison of > interval ratios as found on Ibn Sina's ud and in Hormoz Farhat's > book: _The Dastgah Concept in Persian Music_, 1990. Cambridge > University Press, Cambridge, England.

> http://www.chrysalis-foundation.org/Ibn_Sina_&_Farhat.htm

Thanks a mint, I'll read it now. I need to get/find your book.

~Danny~

🔗Cris Forster <cris.forster@comcast.net>

6/15/2006 7:01:55 PM

My post from: August 29, 2005

For Michael Zapf -- Re: [tuning] Ibn Sina's mujannab

Dear Michael,

Here are the eight ratios on the Bamm (the lowest string) of Ibn
Sina's `ud:

Open: 1/1

Fret 1: 273/256

Fret 2: 13/12

Fret 3: 9/8

Fret 4: 32/27

Fret 5: 39/32

Fret 6: 81/64

Fret 7: 4/3

Farmer's English translation of Ibn Sina's `ud tuning description
appears in:

Farmer, H.G. (1978). _Studies in Oriental Musical Instruments,
First and Second Series_. Longwood Press Ltd., Tortola, British
Virgin Islands

Sincerely,

Cris Forster, Music Director
www.Chrysalis-Foundation.org

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "yahya_melb" <yahya@...> wrote:
>
>
> Cris,
>
> Thanks for the link, and also for showing how ibn Sina
> derived some of the interval ratios as intervals above
> or below others (as implied by the multiplications and
> divisions).
>
> Did ibn Sina describe his actual tuning procedure in
> full?
>
> Regards,
> Yahya
>
>
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Cris Forster" <cris.forster@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Danny,
> >
> > For your enjoyment and edification, I just posted p. 1047 from
my
> > book _Musical Mathematics: A Practice in the Mathematics of
Tuning
> > Instruments and Analyzing Scales_. This pages shows a
comparison
> of
> > interval ratios as found on Ibn Sina's ud and in Hormoz Farhat's
> > book: _The Dastgah Concept in Persian Music_, 1990. Cambridge
> > University Press, Cambridge, England.
> >
> > Please logon to:
> >
> > http://www.chrysalis-foundation.org > M.M. Pages > Ibn Sina &
> Farhat.
> >
> > Or directly:
> >
> > http://www.chrysalis-foundation.org/Ibn_Sina_&_Farhat.htm
> >
> >
> > Cris Forster, Music Director
> > www.chrysalis-foundation.org
> >
>

🔗Cris Forster <cris.forster@comcast.net>

6/15/2006 7:05:41 PM

Danny,

You're welcome.

_Musical Mathematics: A Practice in the Mathematics of Tuning
Instruments and Analyzing Scales_

has not yet been published. The Chrysalis Foundation is applying
for grants for self-publication.

Cris Forster, Music Director
www.chrysalis-foundation.org

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel A. Wier" <dawiertx@...> wrote:
>
> Cris Forster wrote:
>
> > Danny,
> >
> > For your enjoyment and edification, I just posted p. 1047 from
my
> > book _Musical Mathematics: A Practice in the Mathematics of
Tuning
> > Instruments and Analyzing Scales_. This pages shows a
comparison of
> > interval ratios as found on Ibn Sina's ud and in Hormoz Farhat's
> > book: _The Dastgah Concept in Persian Music_, 1990. Cambridge
> > University Press, Cambridge, England.
>
> > http://www.chrysalis-foundation.org/Ibn_Sina_&_Farhat.htm
>
> Thanks a mint, I'll read it now. I need to get/find your book.
>
> ~Danny~
>