Need help with instrument pitched at 437,5

Can an instrument pitched at 437,5 be used successfully with modern
ensembles? I realize that many bands tune to 440 and orchestras to
442. Any advice from those in the know would be greatly appreciated.

Lilyana

On 3/30/06, Lilyana Radeva <lilyanaradeva@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Can an instrument pitched at 437,5 be used successfully with modern
> ensembles? I realize that many bands tune to 440 and orchestras to
> 442. Any advice from those in the know would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Lilyana

What kind of instrument? For a trombone, it hardly matters; for a pipe
organ it's a big deal.

Keenan

It is a bass clarinet. Any idea if it will be okay to perform with a
modern group? It does have a tuning slide in the neck.

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Keenan Pepper" <keenanpepper@...>
wrote:
>
> On 3/30/06, Lilyana Radeva <lilyanaradeva@...> wrote:
> > Can an instrument pitched at 437,5 be used successfully with modern
> > ensembles? I realize that many bands tune to 440 and orchestras to
> > 442. Any advice from those in the know would be greatly
appreciated.
> >
> > Lilyana
>
> What kind of instrument? For a trombone, it hardly matters; for a
pipe
> organ it's a big deal.
>
> Keenan
>

Uh, sounds like you have an issue Lilyana. Not that I would know much about
clarinets of course, but I think what you require is quite problematic
unless you can somehow re-tune your instrument by about a `comma`.

Cordially,
Ozan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lilyana Radeva" <lilyanaradeva@yahoo.com>
To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 31 Mart 2006 Cuma 2:05
Subject: [tuning] Re: Need help with instrument pitched at 437,5

> It is a bass clarinet. Any idea if it will be okay to perform with a
> modern group? It does have a tuning slide in the neck.
>
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Keenan Pepper" <keenanpepper@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > On 3/30/06, Lilyana Radeva <lilyanaradeva@...> wrote:
> > > Can an instrument pitched at 437,5 be used successfully with modern
> > > ensembles? I realize that many bands tune to 440 and orchestras to
> > > 442. Any advice from those in the know would be greatly
> appreciated.
> > >
> > > Lilyana
> >
> > What kind of instrument? For a trombone, it hardly matters; for a
> pipe
> > organ it's a big deal.
> >
> > Keenan
> >
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The barren math says you'll be about 10 cents flat, that's 1/20 of a tone, and well within a not at all exaggerated vibrato. My guess is that you can pinch any isolated tone up to where it should be, and that the kind of music and your chops decide whether this gets tiring or not.

> >> It is a bass clarinet. Any idea if it will be okay to perform with a
>> modern group? It does have a tuning slide in the neck.

That can only take the pitch down if you are sharp. But if you play together with only wind and string instruments, it won't be a problem for them to tune to your pitch.

If the band includes a piano, you may still luck out. Don't tune to a pitchfork A or any other note above your range. Have them give you a pitch in the range where you are going to play (assuming it _is_ low), and because of the piano's stretched octaves all will be right.

klaus

Hi Lilyana,

It seems to me that if it's really badly flat when it's pushed all the
way in, maybe just a different mouthpiece (or reed? to make it easier
to lip up?) could make a significant difference. *But I'm not an
expert*. I struggled with a bassett horn (tenor clarinet) for months,
and mouthpieces made a lot of difference, both in intonation AND
playability. I don't know what kind of selection you can get for a
bass, either, but woodwindbrasswind.com (I hope that's right) should
give you a good basic sense of your (more or less "commercial")
options.

Best,

Pete

If all else fails, and you decide to get rid of it, let me know.
(smile)

Or, I'll call you when my 432 Hz ensemble is ready to roll. (big
smile, but I'm actually not kidding)

(Pardon my silly... :-)

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, klaus schmirler <KSchmir@...> wrote:
>
>
> The barren math says you'll be about 10 cents flat, that's 1/20 of a
> tone, and well within a not at all exaggerated vibrato. My guess is
that
> you can pinch any isolated tone up to where it should be, and that
the
> kind of music and your chops decide whether this gets tiring or not.
>
> >
> >> It is a bass clarinet. Any idea if it will be okay to perform
with a
> >> modern group? It does have a tuning slide in the neck.
>