Micro-serialism

Hey, that's an idea. Has anyone before given thought to
microtonal-serialism?

Oz.

SNIP

>
> Have they ever heard one in tune? Just asking. If you want more of a
> challenge, write some serial music in 31edo in three parts, using as
> many triads as possible.
>

Ozan Yarman escreveu:
> Hey, that's an idea. Has anyone before given thought to
> microtonal-serialism?

Stockhausen's electronic music ``Studie II'' (1954) used steps of 5^(1/25) = 1.06649494220837 (that is, 111.452548554594 cents).

Boulez's book ``Penser la musique aujourd'hui'' (1963) has a chapter ``on the space'', in which there is some speculations on pitch spaces and a proposal of classification.

Maybe someone know of any older cases?

Best,
Hudson Lacerda

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Ozan wrote:

"Hey, that's an idea. Has anyone before given thought to
microtonal-serialism?"

Well...

http://renewablemusic.blogspot.com/2006/01/unfashionable.html

Has an excerpt from the score to a piece of mine in 15tet. The section shown uses a 15-tone row, in a triadic sieve technique related to one used in a 12-tone environment by J.M. Hauer.

DJW

Can we hear it?

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> Ozan wrote:
>
> "Hey, that's an idea. Has anyone before given thought to
> microtonal-serialism?"
>
> Well...
>
> http://renewablemusic.blogspot.com/2006/01/unfashionable.html
>
> Has an excerpt from the score to a piece of mine in 15tet. The section
> shown uses a 15-tone row, in a triadic sieve technique related to one
> used in a 12-tone environment by J.M. Hauer.
>
>
> DJW

I'm pretty sure that Ben Johnston combined serialism with microtonality, but I can't tell you what pieces.

- Dave

Ozan Yarman wrote:
> Hey, that's an idea. Has anyone before given thought to
> microtonal-serialism?
> > Oz.

Ozan Yarman wrote:

>Hey, that's an idea. Has anyone before given thought to
>microtonal-serialism?
>
Ben Johnston, although I don't know any specific examples.

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* David Beardsley
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Jinx, you owe me a Coke.

David Beardsley wrote:
> Ozan Yarman wrote:
> >> Hey, that's an idea. Has anyone before given thought to
>> microtonal-serialism?
>>
> Ben Johnston, although I don't know any specific examples.
> >

Dave Seidel wrote:
> Jinx, you owe me a Coke.

an I mentioned his 2nd string quartet way back in another thread :P#

One of these Theresa Stern produced Nonesuches, the much more enjoyable B-side to HPSCHD, which is 5-56-ET aleatorism.

klaus

> > David Beardsley wrote:
>> Ozan Yarman wrote:
>>
>>> Hey, that's an idea. Has anyone before given thought to
>>> microtonal-serialism?
>>>
>> Ben Johnston, although I don't know any specific examples.

Let me know when you're in NYC the next time and I will.

Dave Seidel wrote:

>Jinx, you owe me a Coke.
>
>David Beardsley wrote:
> >
>>Ozan Yarman wrote:
>>
>> >>
>>>Hey, that's an idea. Has anyone before given thought to
>>>microtonal-serialism?
>>>
>>> >>>
>>Ben Johnston, although I don't know any specific examples.
>>
>>
>> >>

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* http://biink.com/db

Deal.

David Beardsley wrote:
> Let me know when you're in NYC the next time and I will.
> > Dave Seidel wrote:
> >> Jinx, you owe me a Coke.

Our own Neil Haverstick composed a 19-tone row for
Spider Chimes on his first micro-album, The Gate, in
1993. At that time I was publishing On The Air
Magazine, a classical music program guide magazine,
and I interviewed Neil, Johnny Reinhard, and Wendy
Carlos for an article about microtonality. Those
interviews changed the way I heard and wrote music
forever.

Chris Mohr

--- Dave Seidel <dave@superluminal.com> wrote:

> I'm pretty sure that Ben Johnston combined serialism
> with microtonality,
> but I can't tell you what pieces.
>
> - Dave
>
> Ozan Yarman wrote:
> > Hey, that's an idea. Has anyone before given
> thought to
> > microtonal-serialism?
> >
> > Oz.
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Hi Chris,

On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 Chris Mohr wrote:
>
> Our own Neil Haverstick composed a 19-tone row for
> Spider Chimes on his first micro-album, The Gate, in
> 1993. At that time I was publishing On The Air
> Magazine, a classical music program guide magazine,
> and I interviewed Neil, Johnny Reinhard, and Wendy
> Carlos for an article about microtonality. Those
> interviews changed the way I heard and wrote music
> forever.

Fantastic! And they set you on your current "glacial"
composition path? Do you have tapes or transcripts?

Regards,
Yahya

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Hi Yahya,

The only micro-piece I have out is on From The Realm
Of The Shadow, Naxos 8.559089-90. There's a 19-eq
piece which Johnny Reinhard and cellist Dave Eggar
appear on, as well as 19-eq tympanist Bill Hill.
That's followed by a faux-Middle Eastern piece in 21/8
time, which includes a killer 34-eq guitar (made to
sound like an oud) riff by Neil Haverstick (how he was
able to improvise in 21/8 time in 34-eq temperament is
beyond me). The rest of the music is pretty
traditional 12-eq. I'm taking composition lessons now
from W.A. Mathieu, so nothing else is out there.
Here's to a long life so we can all hear my next work!

Chris Mohr

--- Yahya Abdal-Aziz <yahya@melbpc.org.au> wrote:

>
> Hi Chris,
>
> On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 Chris Mohr wrote:
> >
> > Our own Neil Haverstick composed a 19-tone row for
> > Spider Chimes on his first micro-album, The Gate,
> in
> > 1993. At that time I was publishing On The Air
> > Magazine, a classical music program guide
> magazine,
> > and I interviewed Neil, Johnny Reinhard, and Wendy
> > Carlos for an article about microtonality. Those
> > interviews changed the way I heard and wrote music
> > forever.
>
> Fantastic! And they set you on your current
> "glacial"
> composition path? Do you have tapes or transcripts?
>
> Regards,
> Yahya
>
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--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, Chris Mohr
<fromtherealmoftheshadow@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Yahya,
>
> The only micro-piece I have out is on From The Realm
> Of The Shadow, Naxos 8.559089-90. There's a 19-eq
> piece which Johnny Reinhard and cellist Dave Eggar
> appear on, as well as 19-eq tympanist Bill Hill.
> That's followed by a faux-Middle Eastern piece in 21/8
> time, which includes a killer 34-eq guitar (made to
> sound like an oud) riff by Neil Haverstick (how he was
> able to improvise in 21/8 time in 34-eq temperament is
> beyond me). The rest of the music is pretty
> traditional 12-eq. I'm taking composition lessons now
> from W.A. Mathieu, so nothing else is out there.
> Here's to a long life so we can all hear my next work!
>
> Chris Mohr

Wow dude,

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00005A8A7/

how'd you get to be on American Classics? Just how
famous are you? :) Seriously, this is a very, very good
series. Triple congratumalations!!!

-Carl