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🔗DWolf77309@xx.xxx

12/1/1999 4:06:52 PM

Zeitschreibt Afmmjr@aol.com:

<<
Oh, Egyptian Maqam uses a neutral third: is that not microtonal? Guess not,
according to Daniel speaking in "old Academese."
>>

Last time I checked, a third was larger then a tone, but perhaps you've
devolved that as well?

The _tone_ is common to both western and Arabic music-theoretic traditions.
While the Arabic tradition has remained hospitable to three-quarter-tone
intervals in addition to the semitones and tones shared with the west,
microtones (again: ornaments, vibrato and errors excepted) are not used
within a given _maqam_.

If you choose to term a neutral third a "microtone" by virtue of a microtonal
deviation from a 12tet interval, then you're simpling reifying the
"culturally-based" 12tet, thus not listening "cross culturally".

As to "Old Academese": not having gone to Columbia, it's a language of which
I must profess profound yet blissful ignorance.

Daniel Wolf

🔗Benjamin R Sommer <bsommer@xxxxx.xxxxx.xxxx>

12/1/1999 4:19:44 PM

On Wed, 1 Dec 1999 DWolf77309@cs.com wrote:

> From: DWolf77309@cs.com
>
> Zeitschreibt Afmmjr@aol.com:
>
> <<
> Oh, Egyptian Maqam uses a neutral third: is that not microtonal? Guess not,
> according to Daniel speaking in "old Academese."
> >>
>
> Last time I checked, a third was larger then a tone, but perhaps you've
> devolved that as well?
>
> The _tone_ is common to both western and Arabic music-theoretic traditions.
> While the Arabic tradition has remained hospitable to three-quarter-tone
> intervals in addition to the semitones and tones shared with the west,
> microtones (again: ornaments, vibrato and errors excepted) are not used
> within a given _maqam_.
>
> If you choose to term a neutral third a "microtone" by virtue of a microtonal
> deviation from a 12tet interval, then you're simpling reifying the
> "culturally-based" 12tet, thus not listening "cross culturally".
>
> As to "Old Academese": not having gone to Columbia, it's a language of which
> I must profess profound yet blissful ignorance.
>
> Daniel Wolf
>
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what a dick.