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Virtual Ney

🔗Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com>

1/5/2006 5:55:06 AM

Uh, almost correct... but I want to be meticulous. Here are the items that
need to be taken into consideration:

1. The hole positions I gave the values for,
2. Hole diameters depending on preference,
3. Diameter of the conical cylinder depending on preference,
4. The JI ratios that need to be approximated,
5. End correction formula,
6. Turbulence caused by closed holes.

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Where should we start? Could we mayhap prepare an EXCEL file with the
variables? I want this to be as realistic as possible, with sounds too.

Oz.

----- Original Message -----
From: "wallyesterpaulrus" <wallyesterpaulrus@yahoo.com>
To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 05 Ocak 2006 Per�embe 0:08
Subject: [tuning] Re: Virtual Flute... now all we need are the sounds!

> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Ozan Yarman" <ozanyarman@o...> wrote:
>
> > But tell me, what do you make out of the values I produced for the
> Ney? Can
> > you introduce the equation for calculating the pitch from volume & air
> > pressure along with the end correction formula?
>
> If you gave the length of the pipe, that would only give you the single
> pitch you get with all the holes closed.
>
>
>

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1/5/2006 8:54:41 AM

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🔗wallyesterpaulrus <wallyesterpaulrus@yahoo.com>

1/5/2006 2:01:09 PM

You might be well served by seeking out as many references as you can
from the bibliography of this paper:

http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/~jw/reprints/crossfingering.pdf

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Ozan Yarman" <ozanyarman@o...> wrote:
>
> Uh, almost correct... but I want to be meticulous. Here are the
items that
> need to be taken into consideration:
>
> 1. The hole positions I gave the values for,
> 2. Hole diameters depending on preference,
> 3. Diameter of the conical cylinder depending on preference,
> 4. The JI ratios that need to be approximated,
> 5. End correction formula,
> 6. Turbulence caused by closed holes.
>
>
>
> ....................................................................
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> II____0__0__0___0__0__0______x_______________________II I
> =================================================== /
> ....................................................................
..I/
>
>
> Where should we start? Could we mayhap prepare an EXCEL file with
the
> variables? I want this to be as realistic as possible, with sounds
too.
>
> Oz.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "wallyesterpaulrus" <wallyesterpaulrus@y...>
> To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: 05 Ocak 2006 Perþembe 0:08
> Subject: [tuning] Re: Virtual Flute... now all we need are the
sounds!
>
>
> > --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Ozan Yarman" <ozanyarman@o...>
wrote:
> >
> > > But tell me, what do you make out of the values I produced for
the
> > Ney? Can
> > > you introduce the equation for calculating the pitch from
volume & air
> > > pressure along with the end correction formula?
> >
> > If you gave the length of the pipe, that would only give you the
single
> > pitch you get with all the holes closed.
> >
> >
> >
>

🔗Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@ozanyarman.com>

1/5/2006 3:53:48 PM

Rats Paul, I'm not a physicist and you know it! I was hoping that some
decent whiz-kid such as yourself might help provide the basics right here.

Then again, maybe I'm expecting the impossible... just the same as I was
recently bugging my father to produce an alternative to the hegira calender
in the way this maverick attempted:

http://forums.hypography.com/general-science-news/1037-proposal-better-calen
dar.html

Originally, I asked him if he could align the lunar months with the seasons
taking into consideration the recession of the perihelion of the Earth's
orbit as well as its elliptical eccentricity and the obliquity of the axis
to the ecliptic.

Fiendishly difficult does not begin to describe the devilish calculations
one has yet to delve into! Finally, he gave up for the night and excused
himself to sleep.

ROFL
Oz.

----- Original Message -----
From: "wallyesterpaulrus" <wallyesterpaulrus@yahoo.com>
To: <tuning@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 06 Ocak 2006 Cuma 0:01
Subject: [tuning] Re: Virtual Ney

You might be well served by seeking out as many references as you can
from the bibliography of this paper:

http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/~jw/reprints/crossfingering.pdf