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Guillaume Costeley

🔗Gene Ward Smith <gwsmith@svpal.org>

1/1/2006 3:40:20 PM

In this article:

/tuning/topicId_26689.html#26848

Margo tells us that "Likewise Guillaume Costeley (1570) describes a
system dividing the octave into 19 equal 'thirdtones,' almost exactly
equivalent to 1/3-comma meantone with pure 6:5 minor thirds." Also, on
Tonalsoft we find that Costeley allegedly used this system to compose
the chanson Seigneur Dieu ta pitié. Can anyone give citable references
for these statements?

🔗Gene Ward Smith <gwsmith@svpal.org>

1/1/2006 10:50:22 PM

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Gene Ward Smith" <gwsmith@s...> wrote:
>
> In this article:
>
> /tuning/topicId_26689.html#26848
>
> Margo tells us that "Likewise Guillaume Costeley (1570) describes a
> system dividing the octave into 19 equal 'thirdtones,' almost exactly
> equivalent to 1/3-comma meantone with pure 6:5 minor thirds." Also, on
> Tonalsoft we find that Costeley allegedly used this system to compose
> the chanson Seigneur Dieu ta pitié. Can anyone give citable references
> for these statements?

It seems a paper was presented titled "19-tET in a Renaissance Chanson
by Guillaume Costeley", by Ralph Lorenz. I'll see if I can track him down.

🔗monz <monz@tonalsoft.com>

1/2/2006 12:35:14 AM

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Gene Ward Smith" <gwsmith@s...> wrote:
>
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Gene Ward Smith" <gwsmith@s...> wrote:
> >
>
> It seems a paper was presented titled "19-tET in a
> Renaissance Chanson by Guillaume Costeley", by Ralph Lorenz.
> I'll see if I can track him down.

He read it at one of the Microfest conferences in Pomona, CA,
in either 2000 or 2001. I attended, and have his paper somewhere.
Sorry, too busy right now to look for it.

-monz
http://tonalsoft.com
Tonescape microtonal music software

🔗wallyesterpaulrus <wallyesterpaulrus@yahoo.com>

1/3/2006 1:35:38 PM

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Gene Ward Smith" <gwsmith@s...> wrote:
>
> In this article:
>
> /tuning/topicId_26689.html#26848
>
> Margo tells us that "Likewise Guillaume Costeley (1570) describes a
> system dividing the octave into 19 equal 'thirdtones,' almost exactly
> equivalent to 1/3-comma meantone with pure 6:5 minor thirds." Also, on
> Tonalsoft we find that Costeley allegedly used this system to compose
> the chanson Seigneur Dieu ta pitié. Can anyone give citable references
> for these statements?

Kenneth J. Levy, "Costeley's Chromatic Chanson," Annales Musicologues:
Moyen-Age et Renaissance, Tome III (1955), pp. 213-261.