Blues Is THE Primal Primary 12EDO "Tonality",...

...NOT common practice diatonic tonality.

There's a book out on this that I'll have
to dig up and post the URL for Tuesday.

Merry Christmas or whatever you celebrate! :)

Bill Flavell

Hi Bill,

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Flavell" <bill_flavell@e...> wrote:
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>
> ...NOT common practice diatonic tonality.
>
> There's a book out on this that I'll have
> to dig up and post the URL for Tuesday.

Of course, common-practice diatonic tonality didn't
arise out of 12-edo -- it arose within a meantone context
and 12-edo happened to fit well enough to work.

-monz
http://tonalsoft.com
Tonescape microtonal music software

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "monz" <monz@t...> wrote:
>
> Of course, common-practice diatonic tonality didn't
> arise out of 12-edo -- it arose within a meantone context
> and 12-edo happened to fit well enough to work.

Right, monz, but they've been projecting those previous
tuning systems onto 12EDO ever since, making it virtually
impossible to try and discover the actual nature and
potentiality of the 12EDO tuning.

Bill Flavell

--- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Flavell" <bill_flavell@e...> wrote:
>
> --- In tuning@yahoogroups.com, "monz" <monz@t...> wrote:
> >
> > Of course, common-practice diatonic tonality didn't
> > arise out of 12-edo -- it arose within a meantone context
> > and 12-edo happened to fit well enough to work.
>
>
> Right, monz, but they've been projecting those previous
> tuning systems onto 12EDO ever since, making it virtually
> impossible to try and discover the actual nature and
> potentiality of the 12EDO tuning.

Sure, the voice of the "diatonicists" is the loudest,
but for over a century now composers have been experimenting
with non-diatonic scales which are subsets of 12-edo.
Right around 1900, Debussy and Schoenberg both went for
the whole-tone scale in a big way, and around the same
time, Rimsky-Korsakov, Scriabin, and Webern, and Stravinsky
a little later, were using the octatonic diminished scale.

And jazz harmony is based in some fundamental ways on
12-edo tuning, and goes *way* beyond diatonic harmony.
I'm talking here primarily of bebop.

-monz
http://tonalsoft.com
Tonescape microtonal music software