AW.: Re: TD 395: Reply to Johnny Reinhard -- Ives & Pythagorean F-A#

In einer Nachricht vom 11/15/99 7:01:06 AM (MEZ) Mitteleurop�ische
Zeitschreibt mschulter@veenet.value.net:

<< in Tuning Digest 395, Johnny Reinhard wrote:

> Years later, Ives scholar John Kirkpatrick said the following for
> Vivian Perlis and her oral history project. "But much later, after
> he died, it finally dawned on me that what he had in mind was a
> suggestion of an interval that wasn't really a perfect fourth. The
> A-sharp would be a little higher than a B-flat would be, and the F
> natural would be a little lower than an E-sharp would be. So it was
> really slightly more than a perfect fourth, and for the words "The
> most are gone now," "gone" would be a little under what you'd expect
> as the interval of a fourth, and would be correspondingly expressive
> in that way." (Charles Ives Remembered: An Oral History, Da Capo
> Press, p.221) >>

This has to be taken in context. Mr. Kirkpatrick was a real believer in the
transcendental; so much so that for him, a common physical world did not
really exist. So when he says "a suggestion of an interval", this is two
steps removed from the interpretation that I suspect Johnny Reinhard would
like to take from this interview.

Further, and despite his actual contact with Ives, Mr. Kirkpatrick has to be
heard as a fairly radical reinterpreter of Ives' music. No one captured it
better than David Tudor, who said: "I heard John Kirckpatrick play the
'Concord Sonata'. It was beautiful: not a note over mezzo-forte."