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RE: [tuning] ragas versus nonlinear

🔗Mikal De Valia <chiptruth@excite.com>

10/29/2005 8:03:57 AM

something about the sitar and the way a certain scale is dictated to the Indian classicalists' ear as being 'correct'

and the word 'tablature'

replaced for zen experiment with

the idea of non linear time -- or the weird notion that the pasthas always been the future and that things move in supercircles, and that time instead of linear or even circular is a expanding ball spiralling in all directions equally. now that my concept has broken ever clock in your apartment (eerily, as it is also hard to draw a hypercube)
you can't write this tuning down without postEinsteinian notation -- but what do pieces written in such tuning sound like?
while you are wondering about my stupidly retarded question i will be working on the piece and maybe signing up to get my head examined...i think thsi group has finally driven me over the egde. sonic regards -

chiptruth@excite.com

--- On Sat 10/29, Ozan Yarman < ozanyarman@superonline.com > wrote:
From: Ozan Yarman [mailto: ozanyarman@superonline.com]
To: tuning@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 13:17:51 +0300
Subject: [tuning] politics mistuned

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<DIV>My dear brother, I sympathize with your feelings and agree that fanatical
clericalism is the root of many evils in Islam. Equally disconcerting is
the fact that secularism turns regularly into a totaliterean tool for
`fuhrer-worship` in predominantly Islamic countries. Not that it is any
different in theocratical ones! In Turkey too we had our own
share of muslim-communist clashes during the cold war. There were lootings and
murders... possibly the darkest days of our nation. There was much
controversy and ethnic discrimination concerning the music industry as well.
State-monopoly over citizens turned them into a bunch of cowardly sheep on a
leash. The fact that all this happened in a `secular state` is proof enough
that `Islamic Shariah` is not to blame as the culprit for the
instigation of fundamentalism as some ignorants assume. It is rather a trait of
latent, under-developed and secluded countries administered by blind, bigotted
people who are predisposed to harness hatred against the `other`
and suppress the populace by lies, suberfuge and abhorrent
propaganda, not realizing that they turn themselves into pawns
and underlings of wicked masterminds. It is astonishing that *Ahriman's
servants* still make grandiose claims as to being righteous
and find significant public support! .</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The world suffers in the hands of the damned who wish to impose their
whims on everyone else. Allah's revenge shall be terrible of course. I
correlate recent ecological disasters with my belief in this
perspective.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Yet, one must realize first, that the greatest terrorists
are regimes that wrongfully arrogate the will of the masses. I find
little difference between Al-Qaida and militant governments aligned
with the marauding `Allies` with so much blood on their hands. In fact, I
sympathize to an extent with the `so-called terrorists` (since when did guerilla
warfare become terrorism anyway?), particularly in Chechneya and
elsewhere who are fighting for the freedom of their lands, families
and retribution. Who shall we actively condemn first? The insane, or the
distraught?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Yes... a free world, free of oppurtunistic politics, free of ignominy and
horrors of unjust wars...</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Cordially,</DIV>
<DIV>Ozan</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title="shahinm@kayson-ir.com" href="mailto:shahinm@kayson-ir.com">Mohajeri
Shahin</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title="tuning@yahoogroups.com"
href="mailto:tuning@yahoogroups.com">tuning@yahoogroups.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 29 Ekim 2005 Cumartesi 8:55 </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: this <A
href="mailto:*%&$@#-up">*%&$@#-up</A> world of ours (was Re: [tuning]
The Holy Quran and 12-ET)</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Damn all the
terrorrist from all of the world! The world now is in a dark situation . I'm a
muslim but believe that the islamic radicalism and islamic revolution in
<st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">iran</st1:place></st1:country-region> is the root of all these
conditions. If you study the real history of <st1:country-region
w:st="on">iran</st1:country-region> you will see that
<st1:country-region w:st="on">america</st1:country-region> and western
countries made shah to go and khomeini to come against <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">ussr</st1:place></st1:country-region> . I never
forgive those countries who made islamic revolution , al-qaide , support
saddam for their benefits and now their benefits has changed . so they say
that they must go.but what about people of the world ? living between
sword of eastern and western radicalism in a free world !!!!
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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